cturner40 Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 I once put this question to a guy. Would you rather have a gorgeous looking girl who treats you badly or an average girl that treats you well? Know the response I got? The response was, "It depends on how badly I'm treated." Is it a tall blonde size 2 girl that you guys are looking for with horrible attitudes? Do us average looking girls even stand a chance anymore?
JohnnyBlaze Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 Correction: depends on the girl...and the guy. Some guys do only go for the size 2 blonde. Others don't. Heck, I've known guys who had absolute zero attraction to blondes, so there's no one answer; there are just way too many variables. Here are a few for you, OP: what's your thing, what kind of guys are you trying to attract, and do you have any predominant way of going about it? E.g. if you like guys who dance, you may hang out in clubs a lot. Telling us what you're like, what kind of guy you're after and how you're going about getting it may help in getting you an accurate answer.
Sw3etdev1L Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 There's this documentary on BBC, one is about attraction and the other one is about love. It talks about how we people become couple of other people.. related to genetics. Not everybody is complimentary in their genetics, and its genetics which grab attention.. Men don't want skinny girls with no boobies. That's the fashion industry because gay men rule the fashion industry and they want to sell their clothes. They made this test on the taste of men, and men like average looking people, depending on their own genetics and views.... every man has a different taste. But most of them like voluptuous women, because it means we are fertile. Also, beauty doesn't only rely on the eye of the beholder but the smell. We smell our possible partner, because through smell, we can know if there is an attraction and a good gene compatibility. watch it, Idon't know if you might be able to see it on youtube.. but you will get a more amplified view of what beauty, and sexual comopatibillity are
Nexus One Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) Do us average looking girls even stand a chance anymore? Absolutely. A woman's beauty is not the sole criteria for a man, maybe for men who only want a one night stand, but not for men who want girlfriends. I'm guessing you don't want to be a one night stand fling. Things men notice and often like: - Positive and happy girls/women. - Girls that approach them with high energy in a genuine manner. - Intelligence. - Women that are funny/humorous. Women you can laugh with. - Dressing nicely can help. Things men don't like: - intolerant women - judgmental women - stuck-up women - women who are always negative - psycho's - b*tches - psycho b*tches - sociopaths - women who are not loyal - women who play (mind) games - women with too much make-up - women who lie (a lot) - violent women Aphrodite may descend from the Greek heavens, but if she portrays the above negative qualities aside from her beauty, then even she will have a tough time finding a boyfriend. Men like mentally stable women, we like that because we need our own mental health and psychological stability. So yes an average looking girl can beat a gorgeous girl out of the ballpark if she possesses the above positive qualities. There are a lot of hot women that do not posses said positive qualities and have many of the negative ones, simply because they always relied on their hotness to attract guys, but that will not work for long term relationships. Beauty is a fading thing, (most) guys realize that, they calculate ahead and think about if they would still be happy with her once they're both old and wrinkly. Edited January 17, 2011 by Nexus One
Disillusioned Posted January 17, 2011 Posted January 17, 2011 In plain English, we want women with male brains.
Questionis Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Things men don't like: - psycho's - b*tches - psycho b*tches - sociopaths - Muhahahhahaahaaaa, hilarious
Questionis Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Why don't you turn the question on its head. What if Justin Timerlake liked you but treated you a little bit badly. Would you stay with him or go out with the guy from you school? Because this is what you are askin him... Well would ya? Would ya?
mo mo Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Go to a strip club and you will understand everything you ever needed to know about a man. I am being 100% serious.
Cracker Jack Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Most of the girls (not all) I liked were probably what you would call "average", since most guys I knew wouldn't think much of them. Not like it mattered to me.
MrNate Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I need these requirements: Must be (no exceptions): - 5'9 or higher - no bigger than a size 2 - blonde or brunette -hair must go past the shoulders -know how to cook -wear heels when we go out every time -in constant shape -at least size D boobs -an ass that fills up them jeans I am not willing to compromise any of these.
Lovelybird Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I just learned an universal TRUTH, that men love challenges and tention. That is what inspires their *Love* even they deny it
somedude81 Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 What is average? Yup, what does average mean? If average is 5'3, 160lbs, no thanks.
carhill Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Personally, I have not seen any demographic to the women who have treated me well or badly. Since I don't date and wasn't married to a supermodel, but rather 'average' ladies, I'd opine they come in all flavors of personality, psychology and varying levels of sanity. At my age, compatibility trumps superficiality by a large measure. Based on intimacy and CC&E (care, concern and empathy), I've found women who grow more attractive with each day, whether that be as a friend or potential romantic partner. One datapoint. If I had to pick one of the two choices offered in the OP, I'd then select: "an average girl that treats you well" In reality though, that average woman views men through the same eyes and brain as a supermodel and is still shooting for the best deal she can get. So, while she might treat me well, I'm well aware that such treatment can and likely will be transitory. Great lesson my marriage taught me. It's been reinforced by interactions with women since that marriage ended. So, I accept it as one path and make my choices accordingly. Do us average looking girls even stand a chance anymore? IMO, yes you do, about the same chance as we average looking men. Welcome to LS
theizz Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I once put this question to a guy. Would you rather have a gorgeous looking girl who treats you badly or an average girl that treats you well? Know the response I got? The response was, "It depends on how badly I'm treated." Is it a tall blonde size 2 girl that you guys are looking for with horrible attitudes? Do us average looking girls even stand a chance anymore? Neither. I won't bother to even get to know a girl (in terms of starting a relationship) unless she's attractive. If she is attractive I'll give her a chance, but if she acts like a bitch I'd rather just go home and watch porn than deal with her. That doesn't mean I'll only date a 10. There are just some things that turn me off, like being over weight for example. And it wouldn't be fair to either of us if I dated a girl I wasn't attracted to. But honestly I think a lot of girls can improve their dating life simply by going to the gym and eating healthier. That's what I do to look as good as I can.
theizz Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Edit to my last post: if I absolutely had to choose I would choose the nice girl as long as she's at least average looking. Can't stand bitches, and I think our world would be a lot better off if other guys would stop putting up with their sh** and kissing their asses.
Bertram Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Neither, I'll take a girl that treats me well and that I find attractive. Unless we are on a desert island and it's just me, the gorgeous girl and the overweight girl (that's what you mean with average right?). In that case I'll take the gorgeous girl: I would have to to put up with her anyway so at least I'll have some fun.
Untouchable_Fire Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I'll take the one I can trust. Good luck with that one.
Kinder-Horror Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 I need these requirements: Must be (no exceptions): - 5'9 or higher - no bigger than a size 2 - blonde or brunette -hair must go past the shoulders -know how to cook -wear heels when we go out every time -in constant shape -at least size D boobs -an ass that fills up them jeans I am not willing to compromise any of these. 5'9" AND heels huh? You must be tall!
Sanman Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 Well, I can't tell you what men want, but I can tell you what I want. I want a woman who is trustworthy, intelligent, fun t be with, and enjoys things in common with me. One that is attractive both physically and with regard to personality. Someone with the same life goals as I. I am fairly low maintenance and prefer smaller groups of good friends at this point in my life, so I would like a woman who prefers the same. A good balance of all things. I do not consider that average and I have a very low threshold being treated badly. So, I probably would not spend much time in a relationship with a woman who would not treat me well. To answer the OP's question, every relationship has give an take. How good is good treatment and how poor is poor treatment? I can cook my own meals, but I do demand respect. It is all about what we can live with and what we cannot.
theizz Posted January 18, 2011 Posted January 18, 2011 To the OP: Flip the question around. What do girls want? I've seen just as many (or even more) shallow girls than i have guys. All girls seem to be interested in nowadays is a good looking guy with a well-built body or money. Does intelligence/personality/kindness even matter anymore? Basically, there's different types of guys and girls. The right type of guys just have to be with the right type of girls for things to work out. I wish. I'm a good looking guy, stay in shape, and earn a 6 figure salary, but can't seem to get a date.
Questionis Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 I wish. I'm a good looking guy, stay in shape, and earn a 6 figure salary, but can't seem to get a date. You haven't mentioned your personality and that worries me. You still need to chase girls, despite all your other qualities you know.
Yvette_Sveden Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 All of the other stuff sounds nice and they're socially acceptable answers. But those are not men's main concerns. I agree. What is it that men look for in a woman? Nothing. Men want nothing from us. And when I say that men want nothing from us, I don't mean NOTHING nothing. What I mean is that there certain things we just don't have to be able to do in the same level as men. And why don't we have to have certain things, or at least not on the same level as men? It's because men are not attracted to that stuff. Or better yet, they're not primarily attracted to that stuff. I mean, for any guy reading this, just ask yourself (and be honest) if are you attracted to a woman who has swagger? If your answer is no, then that's why we don't need it. By the way, I do know that your answer is no. I'm just asking so that you feel like as if it were an interactive experience. I don't think I need to tell you why your answer is no, but I'll go ahead and do it free of charge. Men talk about how they want their women to be beautiful or they're just not interested in them. A woman can go up to a man and say that she's not fat, no kids, and she does this, that, and the other. But he'll still reject her because she's not cute. If that's their attitude then why do women need swag for? It's not going to attract them anyway. It's as if they want us to be more concentrated on our beauty, which doesn't surprise or offend me. Don't get me wrong, you may very well may like swag in a woman (whatever that is), but you only care about that IF you like the way she looks. So again, why do we need swag for? Also, women don't need money. I'm not saying men want homeless women who have nothing or bad credit. But women don't need to have money on the level that men have it. Money does not attract men which is why we don't need it. We don't need to be as smart as you, we don't need to be as charasmatic as you, we don't need to have power, we don't need to be funny. Women don't need any of that stuff. I'm going to show a link. It's an interview from Christopher Hitchens. He talks about why (for the most part) women, as a gender, aren't funny. Now don't confuse being funny with having a sense of humor because those are two different things. Being funny is having the ability to make people laugh. Having a sense of humor is having the ability to find things funny. The reason why men are (on average) funnier than women is because being funny attracts women. Here's the clip: Evolutionarily, we (men and women) tend not to develop skills that we don't need. I have no need for the ability to be able to look at twenty zebras and be able to tell which one from another. Therefore, I'm not able to do it. Men develop certain qualities because it helps them attract women. And it's an advatage for men if there are many ways to a woman's heart. You can be funny, you can be rich, you can be charasmatic, you can be powerful, you can be handsome. Women are attracted to all of that stuff. But when it comes to attracting you guys, we've only got two big bargaining chips: youth and beauty. Men don't care about all that other stuff for the most part, unless that woman is attractive (or at least beautiful to you). And that's also relevant to making this point: when men talk about how they've got options, that's because they're dealing with women. Women give you more options on how to attract them. We've basically got two things to work with. So I think this answers the OP's question. Yvette from Sweden
pookster72 Posted January 19, 2011 Posted January 19, 2011 most guys are average looking themselves (isnt that the meaning of the term?), so they should only expect an average looking woman
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