U1987 Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 This is advice that was posted on one of my threads, but it gets thrown at a lot of guys. Seriously, pretend to be a bad boy even if you're a introverted nerd. What does that mean? Seriously? How do you "pretend to be a bad boy?" Walk around with a leather jacket? Already got one. Walk around with a sneer? You notice how everyone laughs at those guys always going around trying to look scary and tough? Be really cold, uninterested and distant with girls? Well, how can I act cold, uninterested and distant when I'm not interacting with them face to face in the first place? In other words, a girl has to be TALKING TO YOU FIRST before you can act cold and distant. What does "pretend to be a bad boy" mean? How does one physically, specifically "pretend to be a bad boy?" And how does that increase his chances of actually meeting a girl face to face and drawing her in for the opportunity to "pretend to be a bad boy."
Jazzari Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 To me, a bad boy is: 1. FUN. This above all else. 2. Unpredictable. 3. Shows hints of being dangerous (though he really isn't) 4. Loves to tease 5. Is supremely confident and even cocky, but again, in a fun way 6. Is a challenge without being totally out of reach. He can be had and he can fall in love. But you have to be pretty special to win him over. A bad boy is NOT: 1. Cold 2. Mean spirited 3. Rude 4. Arrogant to the point of being a jerk Body language, that spark in a man's eyes and a quick grin, says alot.
Author U1987 Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 To me, a bad boy is: 1. FUN. This above all else. Define fun. I mean, I like exploring new bars and restaurants and seeing bands. Does that count? 2. Unpredictable. This is pretty vague. Define being unpredictable. 3. Shows hints of being dangerous (though he really isn't) Once again, physically, specifically how? 4. Loves to tease 5. Is supremely confident and even cocky, but again, in a fun way 6. Is a challenge without being totally out of reach. He can be had and he can fall in love. But you have to be pretty special to win him over. Body language, that spark in a man's eyes and a quick grin, says alot. Like I said, how do you actually start a conversation to interact with a girl to do all that? How do you draw her in in the first place?
carhill Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 OP, in attracting or being attracted to women, what is your goal?
Mrlonelyone Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Let me tell you Gods honest truth. If you do some googleing you will find scientific research about what attracts women. The closest one you find to any of what Jazzari has said is this. http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17244-hunks-get-more-sex-but-theres-a-price-to-pay.html Many other studies have shown that women tend to prefer more toned men, and muscle-bound men tend to have more sexual partners than slender men, when other factors are controlled for. Previous research has also suggested that musculature comes with a cost. Testosterone, a hormone that promotes secondary muscle growth, suppresses the immune system of all animals, including people. Yet no one had examined both the positives and negatives of big muscles in a single population, says Lassek, who analysed data from more than 5000 men, aged 18 to 49, who participated in the National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey, between 1988 and 1994. The beefier the man – measured by total fat-free mass, or arm and leg muscle mass – the more sexual partners he had, Lassek confirmed. The study also showed that more muscled men tended to lose their virginity at a younger age, compared to skinny men. If yo go to the Gym and get at least toned (if you aren't already) you will attract women. You will look bad and dangerous because you have muscles. You will be cute and funny and all that BS because your muscles will make the woman wet. A woman who is horny will think the man that made her that way is the greatest guy in the world (when she's ovulating.) In short the bad boy thing is a total crock of horse ****. The Alpha male thing is also another total crock of horse ****. Get toned in the gym, wear clothes that show off your tone, and you will attract women. The other option is to gain authority over other people. Authority, power, money (which can buy instant authority in many situations) attract women for much the same evolutionary reason that muscle does. Muscle is just the easiest of those things to get. I am not a muscle bound man. But I get a fair amount of attention from women. (My problem and reason for being here is that I want a particularly special lady.)
Jazzari Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Define fun. I mean, I like exploring new bars and restaurants and seeing bands. Does that count? Those are fun things but it isn't what I meant. I mean that they like to tease, they make me laugh, they are fun to just be with no matter what you are actually doing. This is pretty vague. Define being unpredictable. You never know what they are going to do or what they might say next. But it will usually make you laugh. (not to be confused with being a clown - that's bad) They are usually spontaneous and are up for anything at any time. Once again, physically, specifically how? It's hard to pin down. They have that devil's look in their eye. They can throw a challenge just in the way they look at you. They grin like they are up to no good but you know you are going to like it. Like I said, how do you actually start a conversation to interact with a girl to do all that? How do you draw her in in the first place? I think just going out and having a good time with friends is enough. Seeing someone who is confident, happy and having fun is very attractive. When you see them looking at you, throw them a wink then turn away and keep having a good time. If she keeps looking, approach her. I'm sorry, this probably isn't very helpful. I know it when I see it but it's hard for me to define.
Author U1987 Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 Those are fun things but it isn't what I meant. I mean that they like to tease, they make me laugh, they are fun to just be with no matter what you are actually doing. Can you give some examples of things to say that I can say to a girl browsing at the super market or walking in the mall that can get her to feel this way? You never know what they are going to do or what they might say next. But it will usually make you laugh. (not to be confused with being a clown - that's bad) They are usually spontaneous and are up for anything at any time. It's hard to pin down. They have that devil's look in their eye. They can throw a challenge just in the way they look at you. They grin like they are up to no good but you know you are going to like it. Like I said, how do I do that? How do I make her feel that way? How do you, I dunno, "psychically" challenge her. I think just going out and having a good time with friends is enough. Seeing someone who is confident, happy and having fun is very attractive. When you see them looking at you, throw them a wink then turn away and keep having a good time. If she keeps looking, approach her. What if you don't have very many people to hang out with? I'm in college, but all my friends graduated and moved away. If I'm out on own (walking through campus, at the mall or supermarket or hanging out at a bar or restaurant) how do I actually start an interaction with her so I can do all those things you first mentioned?
Surrealist Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 See Senifield episode "The Little Kicks". ___________________________________________ % Jerry and George at Monk's. George: Well, I'm the good boy again. Can you believe that? Jerry: They think they can get anyone to shoot these bootlegs. George: Anna actually has respect for me now. It's all over. Jerry: Eh, the whole business has changed. It's all about money now. The sad thing is it's the kids that suffer. (Kramer enters) Kramer: Listen, man. You gotta shoot this movie for me. Brody, he's a reasonable man, but he's insane! Jerry: Kramer, I'm not doin' this anymore. I don't know what I was thinking. It's illegal, it's dangerous... George: Did you say dangerous? % Anna and George in George's car. George: I'm a bootlegger. Anna: You're a what? George: I'm bootleggin' a movie, baby! Anna: Isn't that illegal? George: I can do hard time for this one. And community service! Anna: Is this your FiberCon? George: (Takes it and throws it out window) Get outta my way! __________ How to pretend to be a bad boy summarised in a half hour Seinfield show.
Woggle Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 just be yourself. What Jazzari refers to as a bad boy is really just a fun guy. Women who love real bad boys have issues and you do not want them anyway.
Author U1987 Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 just be yourself. That's the WORST dating advice you could give to someone. What Jazzari refers to as a bad boy is really just a fun guy. Women who love real bad boys have issues and you do not want them anyway. Why not?
Woggle Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Do you really want a headcase that needs drama in order to feel alive? That is what woman who date scumbags are. Being yourself will attract a woman worth having. It might not come as fast but it will be worth it.
Author U1987 Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 Do you really want a headcase that needs drama in order to feel alive? That is what woman who date scumbags are. Being yourself will attract a woman worth having. It might not come as fast but it will be worth it. I'm primarily interested in finding casual sex at this point in my life. "A woman worth having" to me is a girl who has sex quick with the least amount of dates and talking on the phone. Also, imagine an overweight guy is asking for tips on getting in shape. Would you tell him "just be yourself?"
Woggle Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Being in shape is good for your health. If you are simply looking for casual sex it is not hard to get at all.
carhill Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 (edited) If you're after casual sex without regard to the person you get it from, the PUA sites are a better source of cogent information than a relationship forum, IMO. ETA that IME, married women are a great source of casual sex if that's what you're looking for without regard to circumstances or person. Very little chance of attachment or longevity. They respond pretty well to bad boy and PUA stuff too. Edited January 12, 2011 by carhill
Author U1987 Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 Being in shape is good for your health. If you are simply looking for casual sex it is not hard to get at all. Ok.... how?
Author U1987 Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 If you're after casual sex without regard to the person you get it from, the PUA sites are a better source of cogent information than a relationship forum, IMO. I've tried PUA sites before. Those sites are so inundated by so many tens of thousands of guys, most of them amateurs, that you won't get any real advice or even seen most of the time by the pros.
Author U1987 Posted January 12, 2011 Author Posted January 12, 2011 Being in shape is good for your health. That's exactly my point. "Just be yourself" is bad advice in every other situation in life. Why is it okay when it comes to dating?
carhill Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 I've tried PUA sites before. Those sites are so inundated by so many tens of thousands of guys, most of them amateurs, that you won't get any real advice or even seen most of the time by the pros. By PUA sites I mean the professional, for-profit sites where information is sold. Plans of action, concrete tips, specifics. There will come a time in life where you reflect upon the person you are and realize there is more value to 'be yourself' than perhaps now appears to be in evidence. It's part of the journey. Hope things work out.
Cee Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Ok.... how? Just go do it. Chat up multiple women a social situation with alcohol, music, and dancing. Get too cozy with a total stranger and follow her home. Say crazy bs things to her like how you wish you could turn back time or why do people hate being in the rain, yet love showers. Drink more and inhale substances with her. Say silly stupid things to each other or have "deep" meaningful talks. Make out, but keep pushing forward. Be relentless and disrespectful. Get under her clothes and pray she doesn't stop you. And when she does, whine and pout, and say you have a meeting in the morning and leave. Don't ask for her number. Why bother? Go out the next night and find a woman who is more desperate than the last. She's pretty drunk and on the rebound from a cheating boyfriend so she wants revenge. You tear at each other in the parking lot while strangers stare with disdain. You are embarrassed, but you persist. You take her home and move fast so she won't change her mind. But she has something to prove to her ex so she wants to f*ck. And even though you're boring, you'll do for one night. She is loud and wild and you feel like a superhero even though you have trouble keeping it up from the alcohol. But you finish. And you thank her, but she's already in the bathroom texting her ex and begging him to come back. Wake up the next morning with a hangover and a lingering sense of satisfaction mixed with emptiness and shame. You think of the woman from last night and you have feelings for her. Her crazy sex in 14 different positions has penetrated your libido. Plus her blue eyes with their sadness has touched your heart. But no time to think of her. You've got another conquest to get. Casual sex is a full time job and you are always on the clock. Maybe you can find somebody online or text a desperate ex. Keep moving because the fear that maybe you have an STD or that you are a lousy lay lingers in the background. Lather, rinse, and repeat. Fun times
Mme. Chaucer Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 Cee, that was perfect advice for the fellow. U1987, one little tip to add: "DESPERATE" is your keyword. That's what you're looking for in the drunk women you're seeking. Let us know how that all works out for you, and be sure to wear condoms.
hydorclops Posted January 12, 2011 Posted January 12, 2011 To pretend to be a bad boy, rob a bank. When you're caught tell the police, "I was just kidding."
Author U1987 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Posted January 13, 2011 (edited) Just go do it. Chat up multiple women a social situation with alcohol, music, and dancing. Get too cozy with a total stranger and follow her home. Say crazy bs things to her like how you wish you could turn back time or why do people hate being in the rain, yet love showers. Drink more and inhale substances with her. Say silly stupid things to each other How does this sound; I see a girl at a bar chatting with her friends and I go up and say, "Hey, have you guys seen Tron Legacy yet? I dunno if you plan to or have seen the first one, but yo, they totally ripped off the music from Inception; you know, those violin riffs and that horn that goes "BAHM-BAAAAAHM!" And the actual character Tron, the guy whom the movie is named after, is in it for like 30 seconds. How stupid is that? Refund!"Or how about this? Hey guys, have you seen 500 Days of Summer? Be honest, is it a chick flick? Because my bros are saying I should rent it, but they've totally tricked me into seeing crappy movies before. They took me to see Lovely Bones, and I swear, 30 minutes in, I wanted to slash their tires. Seriously, that girl comes back from the dead for one day. She COULD have gone to the police to reveal who the killer is and perhaps saving another girl's life. What does she do instead? Spend it with some boy. What a selfish bi...girl!" Edited January 13, 2011 by U1987
AverageJoe Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 U1987, one little tip to add: "DESPERATE" is your keyword. That's what you're looking for in the drunk women you're seeking. be sure to wear condoms. Two things. This first part I quoted from you is complete and absolute speculative, garbage. Completely untrue. The second part of your quote is %100 percent true to no avail. Always, always wear your galoshes. To your original question, U1987. I have really never heard anyone say "pretend" to a be a bad boy. You either have those qualities already, or you develop them. There is no pretending. Women can see this farce immediately. Hell, I can see it too. I remember responding to one of your other threads a while back. It seems you are just asking questions and not taking any action. You can ask questions all day long, get good, or bad, advice. But not a damn thing is going to happen for you until you put it into action. You might say you have, but I cant believe that. Otherwise, you would not be asking the same **** over and over again. I was in Target the other day. Target! I picked up some basic household items and a six pack of beer. As I approached the check out lane there was this cute blond running her massive calculator with 32MB of EDO memory. When I got there I said Hi with complete eye contact, how are you? She scanned my items and when she got to my beer, she looked at me and said; Do you have any other bad habits I should know about? This, U1987 is when you take an opportunity. What would you have done? Read on. I said, OH I have many (smiling slyly). I will have to talk to you later about those. Put your number on the receipt. Which she did....that moment is where men fear rejection. Fear of rejection causes men to not act at all. Why? Because it can shatter your confidence, and your willingness to try again. Bull****. These are just girls. There are many of them and most of them want to get laid just as much as you do. Was I bad boy, at that moment? Nope. But let me tell you this. She came over to my place the next evening and she was riding me like secretariat. I was cordial with her, did not show any interest immediately, yet aloof, and she was nothing more to me than a guest in my house. Not one compliment, U1987. I also didn't spend a dime. Now, females here might say that wasn't nice. Thats right. Do not be nice. I haven't called her back in two days and my phone has gotten blown up. Will I call her back? Of course, but it will be when I get damn good and ready. You can either take action, or sit on your ass posting on a message board. That choice is yours. And if that choice is sitting on your ass, don't be surprised if you are not getting laid.
Surrealist Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 How does this sound; I see a girl at a bar chatting with her friends and I go up and say, Or how about this? Nah what you gotta say is: "I'm boottleggin' movies, baby! I can do hard time for this. And community service." That'll pull the hoes, bros.
Author U1987 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Posted January 13, 2011 I said, OH I have many (smiling slyly). I will have to talk to you later about those. Put your number on the receipt. Which she did....that moment is where men fear rejection. Fear of rejection causes men to not act at all. Why? Because it can shatter your confidence, and your willingness to try again. Bull****. These are just girls. There are many of them and most of them want to get laid just as much as you do. Yeah, but you didn't act; you didn't make the first move. You just responded. She made the first move. That "got any other bad habits" was an obvious come-on. What if she DIDN'T say that? Would you have still gone for the number? What if you don't have girls trying to chat you up all the time? What do you do when you have to make the first move?
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