I have to wonder about men who bitch on these boards

[Cracker Jack]

Anyway, to stay on-topic: I think in general, finding NSA sex is much easier than finding a LTR, but based on my experiences, finding sex isn't really a simple task at all. It usually depends on the individual, as I can't speak for other men. Not like I really care for NSA sex, anyway.

[threebyfate]

I get the impression many of the guys on this thread would love a “random screw” with a girl they consider attractive. They believe they have no chance with women they would want. That becomes their reality.

Very elegant. Take apart your simple three sentences into the domino-like fall of the underpinnings and the problems are far, far bigger than a bread box!

[JaneDoe35]

These are guys I know in real life and trust.

 

Nah, believe me most slutty girls have loose standards and don't just go for the hotties. I can only assume the guys who complain on these boards are either grossly unattractive and/or socially inept.

 

It is NOT easy for every male to 'get laid'. If it were then I believe there wouldn't be such a need for prostitution etc.

[threebyfate]

I believe this comment is beyond immature and speaks volumes about why this thread was started.

Looking forward to seeing a post from you in this thread which isn't a personal judgement about northern_sky. I know you can do it! Behind you all the way. The little train that could!

[Feelin Frisky]

Maybe people should start reading the opening post and stop making things up.

 

It pays not to bury the point at the end of an OP--especially when there was so much expenditure giving a different impression. So many people bought the wrong thing--including at least two other women who asserted that sex is easy for any guy to get, even the not so hansome. You needed to be Northern's a interpretter sooner. Or, everyone else needs to keep their shirt on and read the whole thing. That's asking a lot after hearing something like "what's the matter with you bitching needle dicks" if I might papraphrase.

[threebyfate]

Humm well.

 

I would say long term relationships are very easy to get. Most of my friends are in long term relationships. However, very few guys get regular random hookup sex whenever they want it. So meaningless sex is very rare, and hard to get.

 

I was wondering if I could make the same argument as you guys, except reverse the faulty logic. Works!

 

By no means take this as a stance one way or another, or some argument looking to further the troll that is the opening post. I don't support trolls, so therefore I have no opinion. That's how you conquer trolls.

Plenty of extraneous judgements in the above post that have nothing to do with the reason for this thread, as defined in the opening post. Let's focus on the bolded since it's actually applicable.

 

So in your opinion, relationships are easy to come by but NSA sex is rare. And yet there are so many women who enjoy NSA sex. Environmental differences?

[somedude81]

It is NOT easy for every male to 'get laid'. If it were then I believe there wouldn't be such a need for prostitution etc.

Yay, some reason in this thread.

 

If it was easy for men to have NSA sex, prostitution simply wouldn't exist.

 

Some men know how to get quick and easy sex. Most men don't.

[JaneDoe35]

My advice is to read 'How to love, Who best to love - and how best to love'

 

Gordon Livingston.

 

I have read it about 5 times in the last month and it is starting to sink in.

 

It probably explains why I am being 'extra careful' while dating!

 

I will re read it whenever I am tempted to overlook a serious 'red-flag'.

 

I really believe if we were more honest with ourselves we would prevent so many issues later on.

 

The negativity about men and women in this thread is pretty sad. Most of it could be prevented if we took more responsibility for our choices.

 

To be avoided - Drama Queens/Kings, Self-absorbed types, Narcissists, Borderline Personality types, Sociopaths, People suffering from extreme Anxiety disorders who are not addressing these issues, passive-aggressive people, pessimists - There are more of course!!!!

 

Nothing personal about OP here in my first post on this thread

[JaneDoe35]

I truly believe this thread was started and has gotten out of hand because of the main contributor(s) experiences with the opposite sex.

 

Nothing personal about OP in my second post either......

[threebyfate]

It pays not to bury the point at the end of an OP--especially when there was so much expenditure giving a different impression. So many people bought the wrong thing--including at least two other women who asserted that sex is easy for any guy to get, even the not so hansome. You needed to be Northern's a interpretter sooner. Or, everyone else needs to keep their shirt on and read the whole thing. That's asking a lot after hearing something like "what's the matter with you bitching needle dicks" if I might papraphrase.

Can't act as interpreter until both my men have been tucked in for the night.

 

But sex is easy to get, if you don't have standards. Notice how she defined "LTR with desirables"? My impression is that she intended that NSA sex be with little standards aka a place to wet your noodle and LTRs be a lot more complex, standards high.

[JaneDoe35]

I believe this comment is beyond immature and speaks volumes about why this thread was started.

 

This post is personally directed at NS. But I am sure even she would now see how immature this comment is.

[JaneDoe35]

It is NOT easy for every male to 'get laid'. If it were then I believe there wouldn't be such a need for prostitution etc.

 

Nothing personal here either.....

[threebyfate]

Yay, some reason in this thread.

 

If it was easy for men to have NSA sex, prostitution simply wouldn't exist.

 

Some men know how to get quick and easy sex. Most men don't.

Prostitution has existed for eons, where NSA sexual freedom for women has been taboo over the ages. One of the advantages of paying a prostitute for men is that there's no real human interaction and no future liability. It's paying to have their penises serviced.

 

With NSA sex, there's still fear of being rejected by women who aren't interested. Prostitutes won't reject any paying customer.

 

But you can get NSA sex if you stop fearing rejection.

[threebyfate]

My point is sex is easy to get for most people. It's LTRs with desirables that are more elusive. A lot of people aren't interested in random screws.

 

Nothing personal here either.....

Instead of using tangential inference to comment on the emotional condition of other posters, what's your take on the above premise of the opening post? Do you agree with it or not? If not, why not?

[Taramere]

I know plenty of guys who are totally average and can easily find free sex if they want it on a given night. If a guy is at all attractive, he can have a field day. Online dating is another easy way for guys to fill their nights with passion. My ex is average looking, and he put about two minutes into his OKC profile. The second girl he met in person was begging him for butt sex on their first date.

 

So he says.

[Ross PK]

These are guys I know in real life and trust.

 

Nah, believe me most slutty girls have loose standards and don't just go for the hotties. I can only assume the guys who complain on these boards are either grossly unattractive and/or socially inept.

 

So why are you having a go at them then? Are they not alowed to get it off their chest?

[northern_sky]

So why are you having a go at them then? Are they not alowed to get it off their chest?

 

For one thing, I think these guys probably could get sex if they put more effort in and stopped complaining.

[deebeechrisyo]

For one thing, I think these guys probably could get sex if they put more effort in and stopped complaining.

 

These guys have been hearing this same crap for years and years. "Just have some confidence!", "It's easy, just try!". This thread seems to be all over the place now.

[Ross PK]

...about how hard it is for them to get laid. Boohoo hoo. (I am female btw.)

 

While women as a whole are less easy than men, there are loads of sluts happy to avail their male counterparts at the local pub on a Saturday night. I live in a city with an girl's college, and you should see how aggressive some of these young ladies get.

 

I know plenty of guys who are totally average and can easily find free sex if they want it on a given night. If a guy is at all attractive, he can have a field day. Online dating is another easy way for guys to fill their nights with passion. My ex is average looking, and he put about two minutes into his OKC profile. The second girl he met in person was begging him for butt sex on their first date.

 

My point is sex is easy to get for most people. It's LTRs with desirables that are more elusive. A lot of people aren't interested in random screws.

 

Why don't you meet up with one of these guys and have sex with them then?

 

No?

 

I didn't think so.

[Ross PK]

For one thing, I think these guys probably could get sex if they put more effort in and stopped complaining.

 

Some of these guys do but still get nothing. There is a condition called Incel.

[OceanGirl]

Some of these guys do but still get nothing. There is a condition called Incel.

 

Ross, would you date an obese girl?

[Ross PK]

Ross, would you date an obese girl?

 

It depends on how obese.

[Ross PK]

I admit to having issues that I am working on. I don't go around hating on men for it.

 

Yet, you all seem to women-hate rather than take one good, hard, look at yourself.

 

And also LTRs are MUCH harder to find especially if you have standards. Sure, there are women settling all over the place - I refuse to settle. I could be in LTR tomorrow if I settled (even with all my issues).

 

Can't say I've noticed all the guys on here who can't get women hate them. I certainly don't hate women in the slightest, even though I've never managed to get one.

[Jynxx]

 

But the issue I have with this whole line of whining is that they act like men NEED to get laid or they'll wither up and die or something.

 

Compare it with the desperation of a 35 year old woman who wants kids but can't hold a man. Months or years of involuntary celibacy will drive many men to the edge of sanity the same way a ticking biological clock will do to women.

 

 

 

I used to be really really bad with woman until a year or two ago. And believe me, not being able to get laid makes your mind play tricks on you. It goes something like this:

 

You see a below average guy get a woman. You can't get a woman. So you conclude he must be better than you. But you're better looking, making a ****load of money and all your friends think you're extremely funny. So that must mean there must be something underneath that that is wrong with you. Even if you try to fight this, your subconsciousness will keep telling you this, and this believe puts you in a downward spiral, as you will lack confidence, women don't like guys who lack confidence and your believe is reinforced.

 

The truth is, there's nothing wrong with you. You're not a bad or weird person, you just made her feel uncomfortable when you put your hand on her shoulder too soon. Or you asked for her number too soon. Or any of the things that are slightly outside of the unwritten social code. You're just slightly worse than average at reading social situations. And that's a skill that can be learned. If a kid is bad at math, he can get extra classes and get better. If a guy is below average in reading social clues, he's seen as a weirdo or a freak, while it could get solved by someone explaining to him what other people instinctively feel in social situations.

[Surrealist]

Some of these guys do but still get nothing. There is a condition called Incel.

 

Interesting, just had a read of the condition, never heard of it before.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Involuntary_celibacy