Cracker Jack Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 OK, your experience is different from mine. You disagree with me. But is that really offensive? Was I saying anything hateful about men? The way you went about it appeared to be offensive. The "boo-hoo" and stuff can easily touch the nerve of some people. If you were curious, then you were curious. Just saying that's not how you came off originally.
Mad Max Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Stop feeding the troll! I quit this thread! Might as well. Not going to accomplish anything. BTW, congrats on 1,000 posts.
Author northern_sky Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 Sigh, I'm done arguing about this. There have been so many threads on LS that are about a bazillion times more hateful, sexist and offensive than this one. I find it bizarre and a bit amusing that some of the worst offenders in those threads are getting butt hurt about my assertion that casual sex is easy to come by for men. Night.
Author northern_sky Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 The way you went about it appeared to be offensive. The "boo-hoo" and stuff can easily touch the nerve of some people. If you were curious, then you were curious. Just saying that's not how you came off originally. It was joke, it was late at night and I was punchy when I wrote that. I already admitted it was tactless. But who cares? Is it really that offensive that it's worth arguing over for 10 pages. There are better battles to pick on LS.
TheBigQuestion Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 OK, your experience is different from mine. You disagree with me. But is that really offensive? Was I saying anything hateful about men? Well I honestly don't think that this thread is offensive to men, nor do I care. Very little in this world offends me to the point where I would waste my energy typing about it. I've always found that people who get offended by lots of things are simply looking for ways to be offended in order to hear themselves speak self-righteously. I can also assure you that your experience is not only different from mine but is also largely incorrect. Like I said, it does not jive with the ACTUAL reality of men's access to sex. Either you know very few men, are making assumptions about their sex lives without really knowing, overestimating their sexual prowess simply because of how they look, or they're talking a big game and you're falling for it.
welikeincrowds Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 that i'm pointing out that sex is easy to get for most guys? why is that offensive? I am concerned for the men who have confessed on these boards ...how difficult a time they've been having finding sexual intimacy. If only they could see things my way! (I am female btw.) While women as a whole tend to appear more selective (given that they are usually the ones being approached), I find that there's usually a promising amount of women who are happy to avail their male counterparts at the local pub on a Saturday night. I live in a city with an girl's college, and you should see how aggressive some of these young ladies get. I know many average, regular guys who have had success in finding sex partners. It helps to be attractive of course, but from what I've witnessed, it's not necessary. Online dating is another workable method for guys to fill their nights with passion. I know that sounds crazy, given all the discussion here about how stacked the odds are against men on those sites -- but there is hope! Take my ex for example. He's average looking, but with a little effort in his dating profile, he found someone who was willing to share his in his sexual preferences (he likes anal). And that was only the 2nd girl he spoke to. My point is that there really are potential casual sex partners out there. In fact I wish I could say I had the same view about potential LTR partners! I do recognize that whether it be for an LTR or for a ONS, people have criteria, but I think that some men here tend to rule themselves out prematurely, when if they had only kept the faith, they could end up pleasantly surprised by the results! Well, it does sound a lot more banal this way.
Star Gazer Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 I've always found that people who get offended by lots of things are simply looking for ways to be offended in order to hear themselves speak self-righteously. So, so true! Particularly in this thread! I can also assure you that your experience is not only different from mine but is also largely incorrect. Like I said, it does not jive with the ACTUAL reality of men's access to sex. Either you know very few men, are making assumptions about their sex lives without really knowing, overestimating their sexual prowess simply because of how they look, or they're talking a big game and you're falling for it. I agree with this.
Surrealist Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Yeah I couldn't agree more. I'd be shocked if this kind of post wouldn't offend 90% of all men. It's like the time my friends girlfriend started (attempted) to joke that he is girly, unisex, would be a pretty fitting women, etc. etc. It didn't even occur to her at the time (somehow) that even he could become offended at that. Her saving grace was she shut the hell up once he snapped at her once + I said HE"S OFFENDED YOU NEED TO CHILL. haha wasn't a yelling, I just stated what she just did. If a woman decided to voice this kind of thing in front of a guy it would for sure offend the guy. I'd probably just be quiet, then leave haha. I know where to pick battles, and they are seldom, and are definitely not picked with this sort of argument constructed. Yes, and its ironic when women (any woman not anyone on this forum) hate men who are 'doormats' and yet, when a guy mounts a defense (not an offense) such women cry foul. Sigh, I'm done arguing about this. There have been so many threads on LS that are about a bazillion times more hateful, sexist and offensive than this one. I find it bizarre and a bit amusing that some of the worst offenders in those threads are getting butt hurt about my assertion that casual sex is easy to come by for men. Night. I haven't so much argued the point about whether it is easy for a guy to sex or no so much in this thread, but wanted to make the point that you cannot expect genuine sympathy and understanding from people if you are initiating offensive threads or posts yourself. It goes both ways, from all parties involved.
JaneDoe35 Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 My advice is to read 'How to love, Who best to love - and how best to love' Gordon Livingston. I have read it about 5 times in the last month and it is starting to sink in. It probably explains why I am being 'extra careful' while dating! I will re read it whenever I am tempted to overlook a serious 'red-flag'. I really believe if we were more honest with ourselves we would prevent so many issues later on. The negativity about men and women in this thread is pretty sad. Most of it could be prevented if we took more responsibility for our choices. To be avoided - Drama Queens/Kings, Self-absorbed types, Narcissists, Borderline Personality types, Sociopaths, People suffering from extreme Anxiety disorders who are not addressing these issues, passive-aggressive people, pessimists - There are more of course!!!!
threebyfate Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 ...about how hard it is for them to get laid. Boohoo hoo. (I am female btw.) While women as a whole are less easy than men, there are loads of sluts happy to avail their male counterparts at the local pub on a Saturday night. I live in a city with an girl's college, and you should see how aggressive some of these young ladies get. I know plenty of guys who are totally average and can easily find free sex if they want it on a given night. If a guy is at all attractive, he can have a field day. Online dating is another easy way for guys to fill their nights with passion. My ex is average looking, and he put about two minutes into his OKC profile. The second girl he met in person was begging him for butt sex on their first date. My point is sex is easy to get for most people. It's LTRs with desirables that are more elusive. A lot of people aren't interested in random screws.Just bumping the opening post so people understand the thread topic. Bolded is the reason for the thread.
JaneDoe35 Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 I truly believe this thread was started and has gotten out of hand because of the main contributor(s) experiences with the opposite sex.
threebyfate Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 I truly believe this thread was started and has gotten out of hand because of the main contributor(s) experiences with the opposite sex.Maybe people should start reading the opening post and stop making things up.
Mad Max Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Bottom line is this thread never should have made it past page 1. The thread title alone was offensive and targeted several posters.
threebyfate Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Bottom line is this thread never should have made it past page 1. The thread title alone was offensive and targeted several posters.So, do you agree or disagree with the premise of the opening post where sex is easy to get for both genders but LTR material isn't? My take would be yes, I believe it's true.
welikeincrowds Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Bottom line is this thread never should have made it past page 1. The thread title alone was offensive and targeted several posters. Meanwhile, it didn't target any posters in particular, and in looking at the post title it stands to follow that only bitches would get offended. But bitches get offended easily, right?
Mad Max Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 So, do you agree or disagree with the premise of the opening post where sex is easy to get for both genders but LTR material isn't? My take would be yes, I believe it's true. Sex isn't necessarily easy either. An LTR isn't easy, that I'll agree with.
musemaj11 Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Like I said, if you needed it to survive as those posters claimed, you would do it. If you were dying of starvation and the only food available was an ant-infested bun, you would pick off the ants and eat it. If you could really die of lack of sex as they claim, you would take the hookers with a condom. In that case maybe I would. But honestly, Im not the most sexual guy. Sex is not a life or death need.
dispatch3d Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 hahah oh man I get it this is fun. And in reading your reply, it only stands to follow that all guys love peanut butter. Only a guy not loving peanut butter would hate such a thread as this. Duh.
Mad Max Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Meanwhile, it didn't target any posters in particular, and in looking at the post title it stands to follow that only bitches would get offended. But bitches get offended easily, right? Bitches technically are female, right? So the OP is technically attacking her own gender.
threebyfate Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Sex isn't necessarily easy either. An LTR isn't easy, that I'll agree with.Sex is very easy to get without standards. In actuality, so are LTRs with no standards.
threebyfate Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 hahah oh man I get it this is fun. And in reading your reply, it only stands to follow that all guys love peanut butter. Only a guy not loving peanut butter would hate such a thread as this. Duh.So what's your take on the premise of the opening post that sex is easy to get but LTR material isn't? I've given my stance in previous posts and wondered if other members would like to discuss the topic of the opening post since it's interesting.
welikeincrowds Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Bitches technically are female, right? So the OP is technically attacking her own gender. OP is not attacking either gender. Anyone who is capable of being easily offended is capable of being considered a bitch. Anyone, Mad Max.
JaneDoe35 Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 These are guys I know in real life and trust. Nah, believe me most slutty girls have loose standards and don't just go for the hotties. I can only assume the guys who complain on these boards are either grossly unattractive and/or socially inept. I believe this comment is beyond immature and speaks volumes about why this thread was started.
dispatch3d Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 So what's your take on the premise of the opening post that sex is easy to get but LTR material isn't? I've given my stance in previous posts and wondered if other members would like to discuss the topic of the opening post since it's interesting. Humm well. I would say long term relationships are very easy to get. Most of my friends are in long term relationships. However, very few guys get regular random hookup sex whenever they want it. So meaningless sex is very rare, and hard to get. I was wondering if I could make the same argument as you guys, except reverse the faulty logic. Works! By no means take this as a stance one way or another, or some argument looking to further the troll that is the opening post. I don't support trolls, so therefore I have no opinion. That's how you conquer trolls.
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