Els Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 lol. I know maybe a handful of guys who sex comes easy to. The rest of the guys I know, including myself, have to work to get laid. The thread is so far from reality that waaiiiiit a second. Okay you got me. I'm not talking about this **** in a thread designed to start hate. I concur that at least 80% of the guys I know are not getting random sex on a daily basis. They may occasionally luck out at a bar, but not anywhere near as often as the OP implies.
somedude81 Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 Would you then say that you need a relationship to survive? Yes. Being single for a long time won't kill somebody. But it might cause them to kill themselves. So one isn't going to die because they are alone, but if they wished they'd die, isn't that just as bad?
dispatch3d Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 First off, I started this thread because I was frustrated and annoyed by the constant posts from guys looking for casual sex who act like it is nearly impossible for men to get laid while women are having a ball. Yes, the tone was snarky because the posters I'm responded to legitimately irritate me and a number of other LSers, I'm sure. So what? That said, my intentions don't determine whether the topic I'm raising is offensive. Is it really? I don't think so. No worries, I decided to send my argument to a moderator rather than to you . Have a good one.
Author northern_sky Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 lol. I know maybe a handful of guys who sex comes easy to. The rest of the guys I know, including myself, have to work to get laid. The thread is so far from reality that waaiiiiit a second. Okay you got me. I'm not talking about this **** in a thread designed to start hate. So you're offended by it because you disagree with my personal observations. Who cares? I've observed one thing, you've observed something else. Why is that offensive? It's not like I'm making spewing some hate-filled stereotypes about the opposite sex, as a lot of threads on LS do. I'm simply stating that in my experience casual sex is easy to get for most guys. So what?
Star Gazer Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 I really don't understand why some women complain so often on this forum why they cannot get an LTR. They are either unattractive overweight ogresses or harbor major personal issues that cripple their prospects, and are in self-denial about either or both of these pitiful shortcomings. Any woman who hasn't ever been married by 25 to 30 years old is a loser but it doesn't mean I'm going to throw up a thread bashing such whinging whining women. My lordy. I'm not impressed by people who are either such bad people pickers, have some major issues, or so horrible to be around that they are divorced and back out on the market by 30 to 35 either. (That's not really true, I'm just saying it to show you how ridiculous and hurtful your statement is.)
Surrealist Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 In all seriousness, this is easily the most offensive thread created to date on LS. Somehow it hasn't been closed and that shocks me. I could give two ****s less about your "intent". **** that. The outcome is a hatefest thread. I mean I couldn't write a thread more deragatory towards women if I tried. If you two seriously can't see what's so offensive about this thread you need to seriously have your filters checked. With all due respect and not meaning to be offensive, though it will sound offensive, the fact they cannot see it, or acknowledge it, could be one of the major reasons why neither can land an LTR. Perhaps this thread can serve the purpose for some self-reflection from the ladies who, in the event they behave in this manner (ie: being condescending and making belittling or otherwise subtle offensive remarks toward males in general or toward their dates), has any guy who they are genuinely interested in, running for the hills. Such guys probably won't raise the problem they perceive directly with the ladies and therefore, the ladies won't realise that what they are doing, given they behave in such a manner while dating, is in fact, doing themselves a disservice. The guy don't care, he just runs. The ladies may see the guy at fault not realsing the deeper underlying issues at hand. In an LTR situation, this sort of treatment from either party would have to be dealt with less the LTR go into a bitter demise. LTRs actually teach you how to be less selfish. No malicious intent^.
Author northern_sky Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 I concur that at least 80% of the guys I know are not getting random sex on a daily basis. They may occasionally luck out at a bar, but not anywhere near as often as the OP implies. And the fact that my experience is different is offensive why??
Els Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 I think Surrealist was just trying to (rather poorly) show what the male version of such a thread as this would sound like.
Els Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 And the fact that my experience is different is offensive why?? Shadow, I was not one of the posters who called your thread offensive. I merely said it was untrue IME.
Mad Max Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 First off, I started this thread because I was frustrated and annoyed by the constant posts from guys looking for casual sex who act like it is nearly impossible for men to get laid while women are having a ball. Yes, the tone was snarky because the posters I'm responded to legitimately irritate me and a number of other LSers, I'm sure. So what? So what? It doesn't justify the need to create a thread with the intention of starting trouble. If people irritate you, ignore them. You irritate me with your threads, but I don't go public with it. That said, my intentions don't determine whether the topic I'm raising is offensive. Is it really? I don't think so. Your intentions are offensive, argumentative, confrontational, snarky, and downright rude. The thread title and the first paragraphs show that. Even if you replaced the title with "Some male posters irritate me", you wouldn't have gotten more positive feedback and the male posters you called out would have more respect for you.
Author northern_sky Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 With all due respect and not meaning to be offensive, though it will sound offensive, the fact they cannot see it, or acknowledge it, could be one of the major reasons why neither can land an LTR. Perhaps this thread can serve the purpose for some self-reflection from the ladies who, in the event they behave in this manner (ie: being condescending and making belittling or otherwise subtle offensive remarks toward males in general or toward their dates), has any guy who they are genuinely interested in, running for the hills. Such guys probably won't raise the problem they perceive directly with the ladies and therefore, the ladies won't realise that what they are doing, given they behave in such a manner while dating, is in fact, doing themselves a disservice. The guy don't care, he just runs. The ladies may see the guy at fault not realsing the deeper underlying issues at hand. In an LTR situation, this sort of treatment from either party would have to be dealt with less the LTR go into a bitter demise. LTRs actually teach you how to be less selfish. No malicious intent^. It's really not necessary to turn this personal. That wasn't the intention of my OP. I was referring to an opinion that floats around a lot on LS. I wasn't targeting any specific poster.
Author northern_sky Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 shadow, i was not one of the posters who called your thread offensive. I merely said it was untrue ime. ok. -------------------
Star Gazer Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 With all due respect and not meaning to be offensive, though it will sound offensive, the fact they cannot see it, or acknowledge it, could be one of the major reasons why neither can land an LTR. Perhaps this thread can serve the purpose for some self-reflection from the ladies who, in the event they behave in this manner (ie: being condescending and making belittling or otherwise subtle offensive remarks toward males in general or toward their dates), has any guy who they are genuinely interested in, running for the hills. Such guys probably won't raise the problem they perceive directly with the ladies and therefore, the ladies won't realise that what they are doing, given they behave in such a manner while dating, is in fact, doing themselves a disservice. The guy don't care, he just runs. The ladies may see the guy at fault not realsing the deeper underlying issues at hand. In an LTR situation, this sort of treatment from either party would have to be dealt with less the LTR go into a bitter demise. LTRs actually teach you how to be less selfish. No malicious intent^. I thought you loved OG? And her BFF, NS?
Mad Max Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 It's really not necessary to turn this personal. That wasn't the intention of my OP. I was referring to an opinion that floats around a lot on LS. I wasn't targeting any specific poster. I can think of several you were referring to; somedude, waynebrady, Woggle, Untouchable Fire just to name a few.
Star Gazer Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 I think Surrealist was just trying to (rather poorly) show what the male version of such a thread as this would sound like. For a second, I thought you might be right. His post immediately after mine nixed that thought.
Author northern_sky Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 You irritate me with your threads, but I don't go public with it. Your intentions are offensive, argumentative, confrontational, snarky, and downright rude. The thread title and the first paragraphs show that. Even if you replaced the title with "Some male posters irritate me", you wouldn't have gotten more positive feedback and the male posters you called out would have more respect for you. That's not true. You frequently drop in my threads with snarky comments. And you've stirred up so much trouble all over LS with your derogatory posts about women, that it's downright hilarious for you to be calling me out on being offensive and confrontational.
TheBigQuestion Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 What is so offensive about it? Sure, I could have been more tactful in my word choice but the content boils down to this: casual sex is relatively easy to come by for both genders, which doesn't align with some of the complaining we see on this board. You know what else it boils down to? For a lot of men, that simply isn't true. Your statements and viewpoints are not an accurate portrayal of reality for most men. Most men, regardless of where they live, are simply unable to have sex whenever (or most of the time) they want and when they are willing to go out and put in an effort to get it. Good looking player types frequently go home from a night out without a girl in hand or even a number, even after not necessarily going for the hottest ones he saw. Most of the people in the PUA community concede to this. These are the people that are GOOD at this. Now try imagining how a person with average or (as is the case with some of the male posters on this board) well below average social capital and skills. And this is coming from a guy who is neither a player or sexually inexperienced.
Author northern_sky Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 I can think of several you were referring to; somedude, waynebrady, Woggle, Untouchable Fire just to name a few. That was your interpretation. I never called these posters out, or even had them in mind. To be honest they all kind of blend together for me (except for Woggle, and I don't remember him ever making these comments), because their remarks are so similar.
Star Gazer Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 I can think of several you were referring to; somedude, waynebrady, Woggle, Untouchable Fire just to name a few. I didn't realize you were a mind reader and able to definitively know who, if anyone, she was referring to. If there's one thing about LS that drives me crazy, it's when LSers tell other LSers what they mean and what their intentions are.
dispatch3d Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 With all due respect and not meaning to be offensive, though it will sound offensive, the fact they cannot see it, or acknowledge it, could be one of the major reasons why neither can land an LTR. Perhaps this thread can serve the purpose for some self-reflection from the ladies who, in the event they behave in this manner (ie: being condescending and making belittling or otherwise subtle offensive remarks toward males in general or toward their dates), has any guy who they are genuinely interested in, running for the hills. Such guys probably won't raise the problem they perceive directly with the ladies and therefore, the ladies won't realise that what they are doing, given they behave in such a manner while dating, is in fact, doing themselves a disservice. The guy don't care, he just runs. The ladies may see the guy at fault not realsing the deeper underlying issues at hand. In an LTR situation, this sort of treatment from either party would have to be dealt with less the LTR go into a bitter demise. LTRs actually teach you how to be less selfish. No malicious intent^. Yeah I couldn't agree more. I'd be shocked if this kind of post wouldn't offend 90% of all men. It's like the time my friends girlfriend started (attempted) to joke that he is girly, unisex, would be a pretty fitting women, etc. etc. It didn't even occur to her at the time (somehow) that even he could become offended at that. Her saving grace was she shut the hell up once he snapped at her once + I said HE"S OFFENDED YOU NEED TO CHILL. haha wasn't a yelling, I just stated what she just did. If a woman decided to voice this kind of thing in front of a guy it would for sure offend the guy. I'd probably just be quiet, then leave haha. I know where to pick battles, and they are seldom, and are definitely not picked with this sort of argument constructed.
Mad Max Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 That's not true. You frequently drop in my threads with snarky comments. And you've stirred up so much trouble all over LS with your derogatory posts about women, that it's downright hilarious for you to be calling me out on being offensive and confrontational. I very seldom post in your threads. When I have, my posts were not snarky. My posts have never been derogatory towards women. And the fact that I've "stirred up so much trouble all over LS" is laughable.
Author northern_sky Posted January 6, 2011 Author Posted January 6, 2011 You know what else it boils down to? For a lot of men, that simply isn't true. Your statements and viewpoints are not an accurate portrayal of reality for most men. Most men, regardless of where they live, are simply unable to have sex whenever (or most of the time) they want and when they are willing to go out and put in an effort to get it. Good looking player types frequently go home from a night out without a girl in hand or even a number, even after not necessarily going for the hottest ones he saw. Most of the people in the PUA community concede to this. These are the people that are GOOD at this. Now try imagining how a person with average or (as is the case with some of the male posters on this board) well below average social capital and skills. And this is coming from a guy who is neither a player or sexually inexperienced. OK, your experience is different from mine. You disagree with me. But is that really offensive? Was I saying anything hateful about men?
Surrealist Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 I think Surrealist was just trying to (rather poorly) show what the male version of such a thread as this would sound like. True, was just using poignant language to make a strong point. Yeah I love OG, this is our first fight.
Mad Max Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 That was your interpretation. I never called these posters out, or even had them in mind. To be honest they all kind of blend together for me (except for Woggle, and I don't remember him ever making these comments), because their remarks are so similar. I have to wonder about men who bitch on these boards This right here shows that you're targeting people. You just didn't give names.
Star Gazer Posted January 6, 2011 Posted January 6, 2011 True, was just using poignant language to make a strong point. Yeah I love OG, this is our first fight. I'm confused! Which post is real? The one where you mock single women over 25, or the one where you mock OG and NS? Both of which other men are agreeing with (and thus clearly not seeing the sarcasm)?
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