AD1980 Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 All you hear on hear is a Man is dirty if he ever goes to a prostitute and theyd never date a Man who did blah blah blah A women has no idea what its like to be a Man wanting sex.If a women is desperate to have sex and hasnt had it in awhile any women as long as shes not crippled could get sex rather easily and fill that need if she needs it that badly For a Man its much harder to get sex and if youre not attratcive its 10x as hard. If a Man has urges and cant get a women why is paying for something pleasurable you cant get otherwise such a horrible crime against humanity?
sally4sara Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Because it speaks of a willingness to purchase people. And I'm not buying it that its so hard for men to find sex unless they are very attractive. I've got many male friends and even the jobless chubby one meets with success frequently. The average looking can pull when they put in the effort and the good looking are swimming in options. The only one who struggles has a good job, isn't deformed, but has some social disorder that has him constantly tripping himself up. Just like it is for women.
homebrew Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 I am a man... I don't want to have sex with a prostitute. If I haven't had sex in 5 or 10 years I still wouldn't want to have sex with a prostitute. If you think men are just going to up and die if they do not have sex for a period of time... you are misinformed.
tinktronik Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 I really don't have much of a problem with it if a man has gone to see a prostitute a few times before I meet him. I don't really have any issue with prostitution at all, except that it's illegal where I am. I could see how the uncomplicated nature of a sexual relationship with no strings attached except financial could work out well in a busy man's favor.
missdependant Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 All you hear on hear is a Man is dirty if he ever goes to a prostitute and theyd never date a Man who did blah blah blah A women has no idea what its like to be a Man wanting sex.If a women is desperate to have sex and hasnt had it in awhile any women as long as shes not crippled could get sex rather easily and fill that need if she needs it that badly For a Man its much harder to get sex and if youre not attratcive its 10x as hard. If a Man has urges and cant get a women why is paying for something pleasurable you cant get otherwise such a horrible crime against humanity? Eh. I personally think prostitution be legal. I suppose I'm the minority. I would care if my husband was going to a prostitute while we're married. But I certainly wouldn't care if he had been with one before we met (as long as he didn't have AIDS or something lol.)
Smoky Day Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 My biggest problem with prostitution is that a large number of the women have been sex-trafficked or coerced and didn't go into sex work willingly. If there's some way for the man to know for sure that the prostitute isn't a victim and he's not paying to rape her...then I'm not up in arms about it. I know it can be hard for men to find uncomplicated sex and everybody wants that sometimes. I also agree with Sally, however, that plenty of average-to-unattractive guys still get regular action, they pull with their charisma, personalities, savoir faire, whatever else they do have going for them. It's the awkward guys with low social and emotional intelligence who can never get any women, at all...and women with those social and emotional awkwardnesses/problems are really no better off, they're home alone too and desperate for boyfriends and love. It's not at all easy either way.
Feelin Frisky Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 I agree with AD's hypothesis mostly. But I personally won't avail myself of a prostitute. The mind is the true organ of sex, not the genitalia. And having some stranger who may hate my guts and want to kill me like Aileen Warnos go through the motions of jerking me off with her noggin because I paid her doesn't work too favorably on my mind. My true sex organ only responds to reality or fantasy in which I am sexed for no other reason than the object of my desire treats me as her object of personal desire as well. And the less reasons not to trust her sincerity the more passion I can freely pour into it. I can save my money and do a better job with my mind than exposing myself to the world of deception for cash.
carhill Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 OP, as long as you're comfortable with the health and legal risks, who cares what other people think. It's your private business. I've heard enough women's private business to know they have no standing to criticize you for your private business. Do what you want to do. Own it. BTW, I used to work along street-walker 'row' and really felt for the street hookers who'd duck in the door to escape vice. Drugs and sadness everywhere, but the guys and their cash kept coming, no pun intended. They didn't worry about what others thought. Maybe that's instructive. Good luck
Untouchable_Fire Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 My biggest problem with prostitution is that a large number of the women have been sex-trafficked or coerced and didn't go into sex work willingly. If there's some way for the man to know for sure that the prostitute isn't a victim and he's not paying to rape her...then I'm not up in arms about it. I know it can be hard for men to find uncomplicated sex and everybody wants that sometimes. Yes... sex trafficking needs to end. We should also acknowledge that there are plenty of women who go into prostitution of their own free will as well. Just like stripping... it's easier than getting a day job. I also agree with Sally, however, that plenty of average-to-unattractive guys still get regular action, they pull with their charisma, personalities, savoir faire, whatever else they do have going for them. It's the awkward guys with low social and emotional intelligence who can never get any women, at all...and women with those social and emotional awkwardnesses/problems are really no better off, they're home alone too and desperate for boyfriends and love. It's not at all easy either way. Look... some guys just lack confidence with women. It doesn't matter what else they may have going on... if they lack confidence their chances are slim to none. I guess the question is this. Can utilitizing prostitutes help a guy learn to be better with women? Also... what is the real difference between marriage and prostitution? It sounds like a silly question, but the more thought you put into it... the scarier it is.
catgotyourtongue Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 I will defer to others. lol. I am not touching this one with a 10 foot strippers pole. Eager to see others responses, as mine tend to be crazily long and wordy, and annoy even myself. I would have to think well before answering, for ONCE, lol. Holding back sometimes is good before posting. I need to do it more. All you hear on hear is a Man is dirty if he ever goes to a prostitute and theyd never date a Man who did blah blah blah A women has no idea what its like to be a Man wanting sex.If a women is desperate to have sex and hasnt had it in awhile any women as long as shes not crippled could get sex rather easily and fill that need if she needs it that badly For a Man its much harder to get sex and if youre not attratcive its 10x as hard. If a Man has urges and cant get a women why is paying for something pleasurable you cant get otherwise such a horrible crime against humanity?
Sanman Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 I agree with AD's hypothesis mostly. But I personally won't avail myself of a prostitute. The mind is the true organ of sex, not the genitalia. And having some stranger who may hate my guts and want to kill me like Aileen Warnos go through the motions of jerking me off with her noggin because I paid her doesn't work too favorably on my mind. My true sex organ only responds to reality or fantasy in which I am sexed for no other reason than the object of my desire treats me as her object of personal desire as well. And the less reasons not to trust her sincerity the more passion I can freely pour into it. I can save my money and do a better job with my mind than exposing myself to the world of deception for cash. I definitely agree with this sentiment and it is why I would find sex with a prostitute or even a one night stand unfulfilling. However, I definitely understand why someone would go to a prostitute. While many men can get into dating/relationships and get sex that way, not nearly as many can secure a fwb or nsa sex. For people who are busy, awkward, or just not ready for a relationship it is certainly understandable and better than lying to a girl to get into her pants I think. I would agree that it would not be right if the girls were trafficked, but I guess that is a vote for legalizing and monitoring it closely. That said, I honestly don't see much of a difference between a prostitute and many of the gold diggers I have met. Either way the guys are exchanging money/gifts for sex. I am curious to know if dating would be easier if prostitution was legal, monitored, and affordable. That way I think there would be much less deception for the purposes of sex and you may have more honesty in dating.
musemaj11 Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 The problem is when people hear the word prostitue, the first thing that comes to their mind is a cheap druggie street hooker. I don't pass judgment on men who pay prostitues as long as they practice safety. Most men pay for sex in one way or the other anyway. When I was a horny teenager, I was so desperate that I thought about going to a prostitute. Never had the balls to do it tho. But now, I'm no longer as horny n I'm not gonna throw a few hundreds of dollars for sex. I guess having a low sex drive is fortunate.
Feelin Frisky Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 In as much as I said I would never avail myself to a prostitute, I do see some room for services that could be handled above board with legal and cultural approval. The mind is the organ of sex. And the mind is not served by mechanical execution of fellatio for instance by a hooker who has a different agenda and may hate or resentment toward the client she masks. If we determine that the mind IS the primary organ, there can be ways to comfort the mind and the body through a new kind of professionalism which separates familiar favors for pay from functions of health. I could see a female assistant dressed in hospital garb and a mask covering her face giving "embrace therapy"--say, mounting a guy's back and scrunching her weight on his upper back to make him feel squeezed in ways that wouldn't happen else wise in reasonable time. There could be a screen above with some porn on it so you could roll over and get hot. You could even talk to your assistant and tell her how to touch and where. She could be a dog under that mask and you wouldn't know it. She's just squeezing the body in way that resets nerves over and above what happens in a traditional massage and she assists the client as he breaks off a jizz attack. She's protected. Her identity is protected. You don't get all attached to her because she's obscured. No intercourse takes place to transmit diseases, no more hands touch the body than what happens on a routine hair cut. It's clean and therapeutic. Why not? Would the wife really object if this were routine and culturized? Guy: Honey, I'm going to the mall for a reset. Wife: OK, dear, you do that.
Eeyore79 Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 The prostitute is probably trapped in a difficult situation due to needing money for drugs, or to support kids, and she doesn't want sex but feels forced into it for financial reasons. Either that, or maybe she's being trafficked/coerced. I'd feel sick if I thought my boyfriend had sex with an unwilling woman, especially because the money he paid is going into drugs and crime. Also the man is obviously a risk-taker who takes chances with his health, because he isn't worried about the possibility of disease. I'd be concerned if a man didn't think about these issues and have the common sense to stay away from prostitutes. The other issue is that a man who sleeps with prostitutes can obviously detach emotion from sex, therefore he's not the right man for me. It seems kind of disgusting to me if he enjoys getting his rocks off with a woman he doesn't even care about.
Woggle Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 It should be legalized and then women would be better protected. In many ways prostitutes are the most honest women out there. A man who is with one at least knows that the women he is with does not really love him.
Smoky Day Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Yes... sex trafficking needs to end. We should also acknowledge that there are plenty of women who go into prostitution of their own free will as well. Just like stripping... it's easier than getting a day job. Look... some guys just lack confidence with women. It doesn't matter what else they may have going on... if they lack confidence their chances are slim to none. I guess the question is this. Can utilitizing prostitutes help a guy learn to be better with women? Also... what is the real difference between marriage and prostitution? It sounds like a silly question, but the more thought you put into it... the scarier it is. The sentence "a large number of..." clearly implies there is also another subset under different circumstances. Acknowledgment already there. And I'm not at all scared by questioning whether marriage and prostitution are the same, because yes, it is a silly question. Sad for you if you need to ask it, though.
Author AD1980 Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 The prostitute is probably trapped in a difficult situation due to needing money for drugs, or to support kids, and she doesn't want sex but feels forced into it for financial reasons. Either that, or maybe she's being trafficked/coerced. I'd feel sick if I thought my boyfriend had sex with an unwilling woman, especially because the money he paid is going into drugs and crime. Also the man is obviously a risk-taker who takes chances with his health, because he isn't worried about the possibility of disease. I'd be concerned if a man didn't think about these issues and have the common sense to stay away from prostitutes. You do know you can get higher class independent escorts online,not every prostitute is a women wlaking the strets in bad areas with a pimp waiting at home to take the money she made and beat her As far as health condoms are usually used which has a pretty good chacne of preventing diasease
zengirl Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Eh. I personally think prostitution be legal. I suppose I'm the minority. I think prostitution should be legal (not trafficking, but willing prostitution), and escorts should pay taxes and even be eligible to form corporations and such to sell it as a service, but I still don't think I'd dig a guy who went to one, especially not regularly. Buying sex just speaks to different values than I have. I don't think it would make them a bad person, if it were legal (I do believe in following laws, even those I disagree with) and safe, but I cannot see that I'd have much in common with someone who thought sex was a commodity.
sally4sara Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 You do know you can get higher class independent escorts online,not every prostitute is a women wlaking the strets in bad areas with a pimp waiting at home to take the money she made and beat her As far as health condoms are usually used which has a pretty good chacne of preventing diasease Not herpes though and that one is a life sentence. I remember a BF and I having a condom failure. The ice water feeling upon discovering it failed I imagine would only be worse if it happened with a sex worker.
musemaj11 Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 I definitely agree with this sentiment and it is why I would find sex with a prostitute or even a one night stand unfulfilling. However, I definitely understand why someone would go to a prostitute. While many men can get into dating/relationships and get sex that way, not nearly as many can secure a fwb or nsa sex. For people who are busy, awkward, or just not ready for a relationship it is certainly understandable and better than lying to a girl to get into her pants I think. I would agree that it would not be right if the girls were trafficked, but I guess that is a vote for legalizing and monitoring it closely. That said, I honestly don't see much of a difference between a prostitute and many of the gold diggers I have met. Either way the guys are exchanging money/gifts for sex. I am curious to know if dating would be easier if prostitution was legal, monitored, and affordable. That way I think there would be much less deception for the purposes of sex and you may have more honesty in dating. If prostitution becomes legal, men will stop spending money on women. They won't vote for it. Why do u think dutch women like to go dutch? Its because in holland its easier for men to get sex than women. Lol
Author AD1980 Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 Not herpes though and that one is a life sentence. I remember a BF and I having a condom failure. The ice water feeling upon discovering it failed I imagine would only be worse if it happened with a sex worker. Well 1 in 4 women have std's so dont have sex at all if you want no chance of an std
Eeyore79 Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 As far as health condoms are usually used which has a pretty good chacne of preventing diasease Misinformed opinons like this is how diseases get spread. You can still catch herpes and genital warts even if you use condoms; all that is required is some skin contact. I really don't want a boyfriend who has either of those things, and he probably does if he's been with hookers.
tinktronik Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 I think prostitution should be legal (not trafficking, but willing prostitution), and escorts should pay taxes and even be eligible to form corporations and such to sell it as a service, but I still don't think I'd dig a guy who went to one, especially not regularly. Buying sex just speaks to different values than I have. I don't think it would make them a bad person, if it were legal (I do believe in following laws, even those I disagree with) and safe, but I cannot see that I'd have much in common with someone who thought sex was a commodity. I was a dancer for a while and while I did not go the prostitution route I knew plenty of women that did, nice women, women raising families, well dressed, well spoken, smart women. They drew in probably 200+ K a year and worked 3 or so days a week, had time to run school functions with their kids, take care of their homes and had normal likes other than the hours they worked a week. So you're right, there are plenty of women that do well for themselves in this arena. But there are far, far more exploited women on the streets, on drugs, with pimps living this life. I agree that prostitution should be legalized and even regulated to test for STDs regularly as well as use of certain drugs with increased levels of risk for infections. I think it would weed out a lot of the male (pimp) exploitation that goes into prostitution now, but we would still see plenty of underage girls being exploited on our streets.
sally4sara Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 If prostitution becomes legal, men will stop spending money on women. They won't vote for it. Why do u think dutch women like to go dutch? Its because in holland its easier for men to get sex than women. Lol Well why the hell did I go dutch when single? I'm in the US and prostitution is illegal. PS, calling it Holland pisses them off.
Mad Max Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Misinformed opinons like this is how diseases get spread. You can still catch herpes and genital warts even if you use condoms; all that is required is some skin contact. I really don't want a boyfriend who has either of those things, and he probably does if he's been with hookers. HPV in general, not just warts. Anywhere from 80-90% of the population has HPV, so you're going to have deal with it at some point. Most strains are harmless though.
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