northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 this thought just occurred to me, and it might prompt some interesting discussion. Because women hold the cards when it comes to sex, they can often get away with shady behavior that would be construed as sexual harassment were the roles reversed. Especially if we're talking an attractive woman. Btw, I'm not condoning this, and most women have the sense not to push these boundaries. I just think it's interesting. Let's imagine a hot woman has a single, straight male roommate. One night she is feeling horny and decides she wants to screw this guy. She creeps into his bed naked while he is asleep and starts making out with him. Most guys would be turned on and just go with it, even if they are simultaneously a little weirded out. But can you imagine a GUY getting away with this? He'd probably land himself in cuffs for attempted rape. Is this an unfair double standard born out of the fact that men are generally "easy?" What do y'all think?
Surrealist Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 I was sexually harassed (human resources officer defined it as such going by my descriptions of her actions) by a grossly overweight middle-aged woman at my workplace. I got no open support for it. Piss me off to no end. Fast forward a year and yet another overweight androgynous middle aged woman, who for some ****ed up reason, seemed to think I liked her, started doing similar **** to me. She sits next to me at work with a divider (thankfully) between us. I have completely, totally ignored this woman ever since and that has been approaching four months. I not only find this creepy but really annoying. It seems because I am a guy that I should be expected to put up with it, or submit a complaint BUT be prepared for the consequences? WTF? That was the warning I got from human resources. What if it was a young girl being sexually harassed by an overweight middle-aged man? Bet she'd receive much more direct support. As such, I had decided that I will stone cold ignore any such woman (unless the interaction is necessary to not look bad at my job) who cannot get her radar right in her head. P.S. Attractive women are fine because I'm not creeped out by them.
Untouchable_Fire Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Is this an unfair double standard born out of the fact that men are generally "easy?" What do y'all think? Life is unfair. Women are not really accepted as leaders or authority figures. It's unfair... but it's life.
Author northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 Life is unfair. Women are not really accepted as leaders or authority figures. It's unfair... but it's life. That's in the process of changing.
Author northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 I was sexually harassed (human resources officer defined it as such going by my descriptions of her actions) by a grossly overweight middle-aged woman at my workplace. I got no open support for it. Piss me off to no end. Fast forward a year and yet another overweight androgynous middle aged woman, who for some ****ed up reason, seemed to think I liked her, started doing similar **** to me. She sits next to me at work with a divider (thankfully) between us. I have completely, totally ignored this woman ever since and that has been approaching four months. I not only find this creepy but really annoying. It seems because I am a guy that I should be expected to put up with it, or submit a complaint BUT be prepared for the consequences? WTF? That was the warning I got from human resources. What if it was a young girl being sexually harassed by an overweight middle-aged man? Bet she'd receive much more direct support. What exactly happened? It doesn't sound like she did anything, just acted creepy. P.S. Attractive women are fine because I'm not creeped out by them. See! reinforcing the double standard!
Author northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 I was sexually harassed (human resources officer defined it as such going by my descriptions of her actions) by a grossly overweight middle-aged woman at my workplace. I got no open support for it. Piss me off to no end. Fast forward a year and yet another overweight androgynous middle aged woman, who for some ****ed up reason, seemed to think I liked her, started doing similar **** to me. She sits next to me at work with a divider (thankfully) between us. I have completely, totally ignored this woman ever since and that has been approaching four months. I not only find this creepy but really annoying. It seems because I am a guy that I should be expected to put up with it, or submit a complaint BUT be prepared for the consequences? WTF? That was the warning I got from human resources. What if it was a young girl being sexually harassed by an overweight middle-aged man? Bet she'd receive much more direct support. As such, I had decided that I will stone cold ignore any such woman (unless the interaction is necessary to not look bad at my job) who cannot get her radar right in her head. P.S. Attractive women are fine because I'm not creeped out by them. Btw, do you wear a yellow leotard to work? That might be part of the problem... J/K (really, that was mean, I shouldn't tease you... )
Untouchable_Fire Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 That's in the process of changing. I don't see it changing any more than sexual harassment scenario. Additionally most men strongly support judging women based on their sexual pasts. That is more likely to change over time... but very slowly.
Author northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 I don't see it changing any more than sexual harassment scenario. Additionally most men strongly support judging women based on their sexual pasts. That is more likely to change over time... but very slowly. look at all the female leaders around the world.
Untouchable_Fire Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 look at all the female leaders around the world. They are overall rare, and those cultures that have female leaders from time to time have a cultural history of it. Pakistan, India and England are great examples. Women tend to be risk adverse and lack interest in strategic thinking. Most lack leadership qualities... that won't change.
Author northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 They are overall rare, and those cultures that have female leaders from time to time have a cultural history of it. Pakistan, India and England are great examples. Women tend to be risk adverse and lack interest in strategic thinking. Most lack leadership qualities... that won't change. They're actually not rare at all. See here: http://www.guide2womenleaders.com/ According to this page, "There are 32 female leaders in 29 different countries or self-ruling territories at the moment." Especially when you consider the difference in a few decades.
Smoky Day Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Women tend to be risk adverse and lack interest in strategic thinking. Most lack leadership qualities... that won't change. We're probably all too busy cheating on our men and being neglectful mothers to apply ourselves to things like thinking clearly or exhibiting leadership quality.
musemaj11 Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) I have a female co worker who likes to slap my ass. We are good friends and I know she is joking but it makes me feel uncomfortable. I want her to stop doing that but I dont know how to tell her without being awkward so I just put up with it. Anyway, why this question all of a sudden? Do you plan to 'rape' your roommate or something? Edited January 5, 2011 by musemaj11
Author northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 We're probably all too busy cheating on our men and being neglectful mothers to apply ourselves to things like thinking clearly or exhibiting leadership quality. yeah, especially when you factor in all the giggling and hair twirling we have to do on a daily basis...
Smoky Day Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 yeah, especially when you factor in all the giggling and hair twirling we have to do on a daily basis... Do you want to strip down to your panties and have a pillow fight with me?
Surrealist Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Do you want to strip down to your panties and have a pillow fight with me? Can youse film it so we can watch?
Smoky Day Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 :eek: Can youse film it so we can watch? Help! Help! I'm being oppressed!
OceanGirl Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 :eek: Help! Help! I'm being oppressed! I think I am gonna report sexual harassment to the mods
Smoky Day Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) I think I am gonna report sexual harassment to the mods You do that, thanks. Whew, my nerves are so frazzled now. I'm going to go lie down and think about kitty cats and how math is hard. Maybe we can all have that pillow fight a little bit later. I have an important presentation in the morning but I can just reschedule. Edited January 5, 2011 by Smoky Day
Author northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 You do that, thanks. Whew, my nerves are so frazzled now. I'm going to go lie down and think about kitty cats and how math is hard. Maybe we can all have that pillow fight a little bit later. I have an important presentation in the morning but I can just reschedule. don't forget to bring some Ben and Jerry's and the Sex and the City dvd!
OceanGirl Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 don't forget to bring some Ben and Jerry's and the Sex and the City dvd! Oh we can do each other's nails too. Hihihihihi
Els Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 The reason this 'double standard' exists in the first place is due to supply and demand. Men want 'easy sex' more so than women. But the reason for THAT, is due to the double standard of men who have had many sexual partners being 'studs' or 'experienced', while women who have had many sexual partners are often seen as 'easy' or 'slutty'. Also, when casual sex occurs, the woman is considered to be the one 'losing out'. So the unfairness just goes round and round, really.
Author northern_sky Posted January 5, 2011 Author Posted January 5, 2011 Oh we can do each other's nails too. Hihihihihi Sorry I was too distracted by the bunny in your comment to read what you wrote. I love bunnies!!
musemaj11 Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 I dont know if sex will ever stop being seen as something that a man gets from a woman. I think the answer is never as long as men remain the ones with higher testosterone.
Jynxx Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 The reason this 'double standard' exists in the first place is due to supply and demand. Men want 'easy sex' more so than women. But the reason for THAT, is due to the double standard of men who have had many sexual partners being 'studs' or 'experienced', while women who have had many sexual partners are often seen as 'easy' or 'slutty'. Also, when casual sex occurs, the woman is considered to be the one 'losing out'. So the unfairness just goes round and round, really. Basically this. Well, one is not the cause of the other, but they do balance eachother out. The reason is that having a casual lay is a cheap and easy way to spread your genes as a guy and thus evolutuonary very interesting, while for a woman it's a shot at getting pregnant and having to take care of it all by herself, which is not a favorable situation. Anticonception is too recent for our biologic programming to take into account.
Surrealist Posted January 5, 2011 Posted January 5, 2011 Shhhhhhh, you lot, please. All this commotion will get my high-quality posts moderated again. I'm getting into trouble a lots lately, like when I was a naughty boy, I was always getting into trouble.
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