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Does it? Does it make him more attractive? As someone you would marry? In any way at all.

 

I was thinking of something someone once told me.

As men get older. We become more valuable.

As women get older. They become less valuable.

 

All because normal men have money as their top priority. and over time it grows.

While women have beauty as their top priority. and over time it fades.

Not everyone of course but generally.

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Maybe in latter days but with women's careers soaring leaps and bounds I don't think money will be a problem for them either. I certainly hope that no one lets their money define who they are.

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Nice financial situation for a man is like nice rack situation for a woman.

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True. With women making their own money i guess its not such a big deal.. Didn't look at it that way. For the young generation at least

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I hate to say it, but money does make a man more attractive as a long term relationship prospect. It relates to the fact that at some point the woman will probably have kids and will be at least partly reliant on the man's salary, so it's important that the man has a decent job. The more her man earns, the easier a woman's life is when she has kids.

 

I'm not saying that a guy has to be a millionaire or anything, but a guy in a stable professional career is immensely attractive, especially to professional women who don't want their standard of living to decline after they have kids. Think of it this way: the woman may be a high earner in her own right, but as soon as she has kids and earns less/nothing, her lifestyle is dictated by how much her man earns. Yes, I know the man can stay at home with the kids if he's the lower earner, and while that makes logical sense it isn't what most women want.

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Money is very important for a lot of women... just look at the dating sites. That's a pet peeve of mines, when they put salary requirements... About a month ago I emailed 4-5 that put salary requirements and asking them why , do they expect me to disclose my financials, etc... Just being sarcastic, for the F of it.. NONE of them listed their salaries..

 

2-3 that responded, 2 seemed LEGIT reasons..

1. She said she a doctor, and had run into issues in the past where the guy didn't make as much, and the guy couldn't deal with earning less.

2. She said something similar, that she wanted someone in her same salary level..

 

Those two seemed legit. The ones that didn't answer? Just digging for $...

 

In my profile for example:

1. I do NOT disclose my salary

2. For job description, I start off something like "I work as a bag boy at the xyz supermarket.... if you are still reading you probably aren't materialistic, lol.. I am actually a "abc def"...

 

NOW, on the other hand, I prefer to date someone at my salary level, which is not alot, lol. so we are in the same social and economic scale.. that ties into education (college educated, etc..)..

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Does it? Does it make him more attractive? As someone you would marry? In any way at all.

 

I was thinking of something someone once told me.

As men get older. We become more valuable.

As women get older. They become less valuable.

 

All because normal men have money as their top priority. and over time it grows.

While women have beauty as their top priority. and over time it fades.

Not everyone of course but generally.

 

 

 

No, his money doesn't make him, but his motivation does.

 

I could never be with a man who didn't have the desire to become more, or had no goals or aspirations in life. He doesn't have to have money now (I'm still young) but I would expect to be with someone who wants to go somewhere at some point in their life. Luckily I am with someone who wants to do something wit hhis life.

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Of course money defines a man.

 

Resources define every male in the mammal kingdom.

 

Every woman's heart has a price tag.

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Does it? Does it make him more attractive? As someone you would marry? In any way at all.

 

 

I did not used to think so. Oh, how wrong I was.

 

I does not make you any more or any less of a man. However, if you do have money you could wrap that stuff up air tight, pour febreeze on it, and bury it six feet down and they can still smell it as if they were on a truffle hunt.

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While women have beauty as their top priority. and over time it fades.

Not everyone of course but generally.

 

I don't think that beauty is the top priority in women's life. At least I hope not. I hope most women (and men) know that looks fade on us all.

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Money does define a person but not how it seems to be assumed.

 

Its how well they can still hold to their values and self worth without money that defines who they are. Life is easier with money. Its how well you can navigate when its hard that truly shows a person's character. Impress me without money and you'll likely still be able to impress me after achieving some measure of success. If you can only impress with money, will you still be able if it disappears? Not as likely.

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So far, having lived both dynamics, I don't see marked differences in perception, absent that the gold-diggers are gone as perception of divorce draining coffers rules.

 

IME, perception is the key word.

 

There is always someone with a bigger d!ck and a fatter wallet and how women perceive those dynamics drives their attraction. I hope they find what they're looking for.

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A fat wallet makes even the ugliest guys attractive to chicks.

 

Come on! How else would a 50yrs old bald fat dude, snag a 22yr old bombshell. It's certainly not for his personality and wit!

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A fat wallet makes even the ugliest guys attractive to chicks.

 

Come on! How else would a 50yrs old bald fat dude, snag a 22yr old bombshell. It's certainly not for his personality and wit!

 

This is exactly what I'm talking about. He has the money, she doesn't. And look at what she resorts to in her moment of monetary lacking - hooking under the guise of a relationship.

 

And for him - well he also is showing his character by what he does once he has some measure of monetary success - solicitation under the guise of a relationship. They're made for each other as long as the money lasts. Two low level characters removed for a period from the dating pool is good for the people with integrity still looking. Would that all the bad apples pair up!

 

Both of these people are showing how money defines them and it isn't admirable.

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A person (male or female) should have certain important qualities to earn money. Stability, wisdom, motivation. You'll likely find the person sleeping under the bridge lacks these qualities. Money doesn't make the person but the decent person makes money.

 

Today's Woman in the more advanced cultures has the ability to earn her own money, so she can evaluate a man without an urgent need for financial support. Today's man should also expect a woman to have the important qualities needed to earn money.

 

The ability to earn money is vital to quality of life.

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Actually, that same dynamic can apply to a similar aged attractive woman. Women are very selective in whom they give their time and interest to. I recall my exW mentioning a number of times about her friends wondering why she was dating a bald guy when there were so many 'better' ones out there. So true. Perception is a powerful thing. I still hear the same/similar type comparisons from contemporaries. For many, life is one big competition. That's their path.

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I don't like money because we seem to worship it and grow comfortable with leaving others without. If all the money in the world was divided up and an equal share of it was doled out to all - we'd each get bit over a million.

 

Yet there are people starving and dying of petty ailments. We know it and don't care. Gotta get that stuff and then more stuff and more stuff.

Sure, money affords me my basic needs and I'll work to earn it, but money also warps our values.

 

Now when I see someone walking around with lots of stuff, thinking they NEED all that stuff I'm kinda sickened. They did a story last year about the homes of DC and xmas exterior decor. The folks down the street from me were part of the story. Their power bill for the month was over $25000. How many people, in the same damn city even, starved to death, lost their home or couldn't afford necessary medical treatment that month? :sick: But gotta have those xmas lights and animated statues all over the lawn or it just won't be xmas.

 

I don't look at them pulling out of their garage in one of the many luxery vehicles they have and think WOW, they are so desirable! I want to drag them over to SE and make them spend xmas in the home of some old woman who lost her leg due to not being able to afford proper treatment for her diabetes. I want them to meet her grandson who got good grades but can't afford to go to any college that accepted him. Then I want to take them to my grandparents home. Its falling down around them as my grandmother bathes my senile grandfather and dresses him and cannot afford to have the place repaired let alone hired a nurse to help her with my grandfather's care.

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Money gives us the freedom to be who we really are. :)

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Song from the 90s "Bob Roberts" mockumentary about what if Bob Dylan had been on the other side. Why would anyone find this mentality to be desirous in a mate?

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I would say how he GOT his money would define him. Not the mere fact of having it.

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No matter if your mission is charitable or self serving, money is what you need to make it all happen. I don't despise those without money, neither do I hate those with money, they built this world that enjoy: Medicine, cars, computers, cell phones, firemen, hospitals, TV, etc, etc, all made possible by money

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No matter if your mission is charitable or self serving, money is what you need to make it all happen. I don't despise those without money, neither do I hate those with money, they built this world that enjoy: Medicine, cars, computers, cell phones, firemen, hospitals, TV, etc, etc, all made possible by money
If Bernie Madoff had donated some of his ill gotten gains to some worthwhile charities, it wouldn't have made him any less of an arse hole.
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I don't think any woman wants to date a deadbeat guy who can't support himself with no ambition or drive to accomplishment anything.

 

That being said, I think men do pride themselves on how much money they make, like more money = more power and success.

 

However, for me, it matters more how they make their money. I have no interest in dating an investment banker who gets six-figure bonuses.

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No, his money doesn't make him, but his motivation does.

I could never be with a man who didn't have the desire to become more, or had no goals or aspirations in life. He doesn't have to have money now (I'm still young) but I would expect to be with someone who wants to go somewhere at some point in their life. Luckily I am with someone who wants to do something wit hhis life.

 

What?

 

So you don't require a man who HAS money... you require a man who WILL HAVE money.

 

Just admit you are digging for gold the same as the others. If the guy was motivated to community service and didn't get paid... suddenly his "motivation" would not be enough.

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having a stable career (or heading towards that) and being financially responsible are important, but whether a guy is a teacher or an investment banker isn't really important to me. i can support myself.

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