donnamaybe Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 He merely brought up women because he's been on a crusade with Woggle and musemaj to make anything and everything a pissing contest between the gendersWoggle doesn't need any help in that area.
zengirl Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 ^^^ I rest my case. Except for the thing about the how-to guide (which I also said I always look for!), I didn't say any of the other things above, nor do I agree with them. Not sure why you put them with my post. I agree with you that helplessness in any area is bunk. But why make it a gender issue? There are a few women in that thread who are being just as silly as you are here, I'll grant you that. And was that tire thread even started by a woman? Before my parents split, my dad did the cooking. After that, I taught myself. And your mother couldn't cook. She was incapable of it. She didn't understand the general mechanisms of it.
carhill Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Women that can't cook Any guys find this to be a turn off? If she enjoys my cooking and doesn't mind lending a hand, no issues here. I've been cooking for about 25 years. It's just something to do and IMO is a fun thing to share with people one cares about.
Jane2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 I cooked for my boyfriend (now ex-bf) every day. I did my best for him. Came up with meals I thought he would like, etc. Looked up healthy recipes, etc., etc. In fact, I even think I over-fed him. I don't really cook while I'm single, though. I only asked him to do two things: 1) clean the bathtub every other week, and 2) take out the trash. I did every other domestic thing.
Feelin Frisky Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Sure, I want one who can cook at least the basics. And hopefully she will be the type that wants to get better at it with time and learn from any errors. I'm very into cooking myself and will want to do some cooking too. Maybe we can both work together. She can make one thing and me another. I can turn my sauce on to simmer and then go kissing on her and feeling her up from behind while she's trying to do stuff like I usually do.
Author Mad Max Posted January 3, 2011 Author Posted January 3, 2011 And your mother couldn't cook. She was incapable of it. She didn't understand the general mechanisms of it. And my uncle(her brother) can't even boil water. It's not their fault. My grandparents never taught them. My mom has more of a command now with cooking, but not when I was growing up.
dispatch3d Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 I seriously would never date an ugly girl, who couldn't cook, and was unemployed. So for the women who can't cook and get offended yet have a boyfriend, obviously your either hot as hell or have a good career. Why not just take this thread as a compliment and move on?
Yer_Blues Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 But why make it a gender issue? There are a few women in that thread who are being just as silly as you are here, I'll grant you that. Thank you, I thought I was losing it
zengirl Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 And my uncle(her brother) can't even boil water. It's not their fault. My grandparents never taught them. My mom has more of a command now with cooking, but not when I was growing up. Well, your uncle is still pretty lame then. Nobody had to "teach" me to boil water, really. I mean, even if my parents had never done it, I could've seen it once on TV. Pot, water, stove. This is not complex. Yes, I agree that'd be an unattractive trait. But why make it about gender? Why isn't your uncle just as called-out as your mother?
USCGAviator Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 I'm gonna say that she should be able to cook or learn how. There are certain responsibilities that women should have...just like us men do
Author Mad Max Posted January 3, 2011 Author Posted January 3, 2011 But why make it about gender? Because I date women, not men. If I dated both or just men, then it would be directed towards both or just men. And I specifically stated that everyone should have this skill. It is a select few that are creating arguments and looking for a fight where as I was simply starting a civil topic. Why isn't your uncle just as called-out as your mother? He didn't raise me.
catgotyourtongue Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Any guys find this to be a turn off? I definitely do. Growing up, my mom didn't cook and I vowed that I would never marry a woman that didn't know how to cook. Women expect men to be able to do certain things, so I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect your wife to know how to cook. I'm not talking about cooking like a chef. Just knowing the basics and able to be self-sufficient. Fortunately, I am able to cook and I believe it's a skill that is required if you want to be independent, male or female. LOL I knew this post would generate some female attention/response. You asked MEN if they felt it was a turn off. No crime has been committed. I am a woman, and I am not offended by this. You asked people what they thought and stated that FOR YOU it was a turn off. Whether or not I agree with you, does not matter. You think it's a turn off and other men do too I am sure. I agree with @zengirl abt not wanting to have to do it, like a chore, as I am not the "let me cook dinner for you every night type". Can I cook, sure, do I enjoy cooking sometimes for men I date, sure, but I would never ever want it to be my job, as I think it would feel like a chore on a daily basis. BUT I think it's totally fine that you know you want to be with a women who cares about it, and can do it, to some degree.
zengirl Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Because I date women, not men. If I dated both or just men, then it would be directed towards both or just men. And I specifically stated that everyone should have this skill. It is a select few that are creating arguments and looking for a fight where as I was simply starting a civil topic. Yes, but you stated Women expect men to be able to do certain things, so I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect your wife to know how to cook. Not at all the same as saying, "I like a partner who can cook" or "It's important to me in a partner." You started it out with gender expectations, from the title to your first post. If the general premise is, "Everyone should know how to cook," then I agree. But that's not what you wrote. If the general premise was, "I like to date people who can cook well," then that sounds fine too. Or even "I'm bummed out when a girl I'm dating can't cook well." Very different from what you said above.
810 Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 i love them expectations. that's why when asked if i cook, my answer always is i don't know how.
Author Mad Max Posted January 3, 2011 Author Posted January 3, 2011 LOL I knew this post would generate some female attention/response. You asked MEN if they felt it was a turn off. No crime has been committed. I am a woman, and I am not offended by this. You asked people what they thought and stated that FOR YOU it was a turn off. Whether or not I agree with you, does not matter. You think it's a turn off and other men do too I am sure. I agree with @zengirl abt not wanting to have to do it, like a chore, as I am not the "let me cook dinner for you every night type". Can I cook, sure, do I enjoy cooking sometimes for men I date, sure, but I would never ever want it to be my job, as I think it would feel like a chore on a daily basis. BUT I think it's totally fine that you know you want to be with a women who cares about it, and can do it, to some degree. Because the ones that took offense and were defensive have issues. If a female poster started a thread about men not being able to cook, I would not be defensive. I know how to cook and it wouldn't apply to me. I would just laugh it off.
Yer_Blues Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Because the ones that took offense and were defensive have issues. If a female poster started a thread about men not being able to cook, I would not be defensive. I know how to cook and it wouldn't apply to me. I would just laugh it off. I took offense, and I am male. And I just received infractions for my responses to you, so I apologize if they were inflammatory or insulting. I have very passionate feelings about grouping people into aggregates, as it is the basis for racism, sexism, and every other kind of prejudicial thinking, and I probably let my emotions get the better of me and shine through more in my posts than intended.
Author Mad Max Posted January 3, 2011 Author Posted January 3, 2011 Yes, but you stated Not at all the same as saying, "I like a partner who can cook" or "It's important to me in a partner." You started it out with gender expectations, from the title to your first post. If the general premise is, "Everyone should know how to cook," then I agree. But that's not what you wrote. If the general premise was, "I like to date people who can cook well," then that sounds fine too. Or even "I'm bummed out when a girl I'm dating can't cook well." Very different from what you said above. You're still creating an argument. Just because I said at the very end that everyone should know how to cook, doesn't mean my thread is misognyist. Multiple female posters have stated there is nothing wrong with this thread. The fact that you and a few others are defensive and are trying to turn an otherwise civil debate into a sexist Mad Max thread shows that you are the ones with issues, not me or the few that came to my defense.
USCGAviator Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 It's a relationship booster when the man can cook but I believe its the womans duty is to cook or learn to prepare meals for her family. Just like its the mans duty to rearrange her furniture or change a flat tire in the rain. I know whats expected of us and women should too. jus sayin
Woggle Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 I don't care about specific gender roles. I just want a woman who does her equal part in the relationship and I have that. I am a great cook and the only thing I struggle with is cooking rice without a rice cooker and I always wanted to try deep frying a turkey but I admit it sort of scares me. Other than that I can make damn near anything. I do agree that if a woman insists a man play his traditional roles she should do the same as well.
Author Mad Max Posted January 3, 2011 Author Posted January 3, 2011 I don't care about specific gender roles. I just want a woman who does her equal part in the relationship and I have that. I am a great cook and the only thing I struggle with is cooking rice without a rice cooker and I always wanted to try deep frying a turkey but I admit it sort of scares me. Other than that I can make damn near anything. I do agree that if a woman insists a man play his traditional roles she should do the same as well. Agreed. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
catgotyourtongue Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Because the ones that took offense and were defensive have issues. If a female poster started a thread about men not being able to cook, I would not be defensive. I know how to cook and it wouldn't apply to me. I would just laugh it off. well I know it's a touchy subject, I just wanted to say that I thought it was a fair post and that you certainly have a right to have an opinion and preferences. AND it was to men. I hope my post does not start an issue, I did not want that. I did want to hopefully point out that you were merely stating what you prefered, and it did not feel harsh to me. When we post about men or woman in general, and typical male chores/duties/roles and typical women/duties, (historically typical I mean) responsibilities, there will be debates or opinions and feelings for sure. It's good food for thought. LOL (get it, that was a pun) I would NEVER be with a man who had real old fashioned values and expected dinner on the table every night. Not because I am a womans lib., rights advocate, or because I am selfish, but because I would hate having that responsibility and it would feel very constraining and frustrating given many reasons. I give in a lot of other ways, and would take care of (care for) my man, lover, sig other in many ways, just this would be difficult...to say the least.
carhill Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 I am a great cook and the only thing I struggle with is cooking rice without a rice cooker and I always wanted to try deep frying a turkey but I admit it sort of scares me. Rice is easy. Don't peek We did a deep-fry turkey this past holiday. Open your wallet for the peanut oil and make sure the turkey is *very* dry inside and out before immersing if you wish to avoid an oil/steam geyser. Cut the brine/seasoning amount and/or time a bit over the recipe. That was the most tender turkey I've ever had, even cold the next day. Go for it The good news is the women won't get within fifty feet of that cauldron attached to a propane tank and the men can drink beer at their leisure. If a woman insists I'm 'stealing her work' when cooking, then I leave her to it and do the cleanup. Learned that one from my exW.
paleblue Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Any guys find this to be a turn off? I think it's lame. My exNightmare never did. She sucks. The one before that totally did and it was cool. We would make stuff together. So ya, its a turn off. There's no reason not too cook. You have too eat. What do we think we're royalty or something? Bah
freestyle Posted January 3, 2011 Posted January 3, 2011 Rice is easy. Don't peek We did a deep-fry turkey this past holiday. Open your wallet for the peanut oil and make sure the turkey is *very* dry inside and out before immersing if you wish to avoid an oil/steam geyser. Cut the brine/seasoning amount and/or time a bit over the recipe. That was the most tender turkey I've ever had, even cold the next day. Go for it The good news is the women won't get within fifty feet of that cauldron attached to a propane tank and the men can drink beer at their leisure. If a woman insists I'm 'stealing her work' when cooking, then I leave her to it and do the cleanup. Learned that one from my exW. Good advice on the turkey---just watched that on "Mythbusters"...will a turkey explode in a deep fryer? As it turned out, it will--but only if you immerse when it's still frozen.... I believe that cooking should be shared.........and it can be fun that way.
lino Posted January 4, 2011 Posted January 4, 2011 It wouldn't turn me off at all if a partner of mine couldn't cook. I reckon I can cook better than most women I've met anyway... Ligurian cuisine is un matched in my biased opinion My girlfriend can barely cook an egg, doesn't bother me one bit. I'm happy to cook for us when I have time. I don't believe in any of these sh*tty gender 'roles' anyway.
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