walktheline Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 I hate to say that I've never changed a tire in my life. Don't ever remember my father doing it when I was a kid and I gues I'm fortunate to have had only one flat in my life and that was on a dark 2 lane country road in the winter so no thanks that's what I have road side assistance on my insurance for. I'm sure if I had to I could get the job done though. I've changed my oil myself and can work my way around most basic handy man skills, but I would in no way consider my self mechanically inclined or any type of a carpenter.
musemaj11 Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 I wonder where all these women with antiquated views grew up in? In the country or what? Coz I remember one of em mentioning something about living on a FARM. I have always lived in big cities. Currently I live in Los Angeles. I can build my own computer from scratch. But Im sorry if I dont know how to fix a TRACTOR.
callingyouuu Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 IMO, the operative issue wrt attraction is a man who handles challenges with confidence and pro-active actions. That action could be, for a man like myself, pulling out my tool kit or, for a man like my father, knowing exactly who to call and what to ask for when something needs attention. It's not the 'what', it's the 'how'. Whew, so there's still hope for people like me.
carhill Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 I remember dad looking on with fascination as I built electronic kits when I was eight and moved on to lawnmower engines and auto engines at twelve. Only thing he knew about a car was where to put the ignition key. Back then, the service station checked everything while they pumped the gas. He never even got out of the car. Those were the days. Tractors are pretty easy. Everything is big and easy to get at. Bleeding the <diesel> injector pump is probably the hardest thing I've had to do, when I made the mistake of running it out of fuel last year. That air is tricky. Changing tires is relatively easy. Mounting them (I used to mount the slicks on the race car) is much harder, as is balancing them with a bubble balancer. Fun stuff Perhaps I should've learned pickup skills rather than fixit skills as a young man.....then again..
musemaj11 Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 I dont even remember the last time I saw a real tractor. LOL
colliejoanie Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 To the 25 yr olds, you have a lot of life to live. Really.....I know you get tired of hearing it, but trust me.....ten years from now, you'll be thinking "jezus, I was such a douche". And that's only ten years. There's plenty more. Just be real people. We all live our lives with differnt views and no one is right. Be good people.. Thats it!
musemaj11 Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 (edited) To the 25 yr olds, you have a lot of life to live. Really.....I know you get tired of hearing it, but trust me.....ten years from now, you'll be thinking "jezus, I was such a douche". And that's only ten years. There's plenty more. Just be real people. We all live our lives with differnt views and no one is right. Be good people.. Thats it! Im not the woman who wont have sex with her husband just because he doesnt know how to sand mold out or whatever it was. Speaking about being a douche. Maybe you are living in the wrong era lady. I dont know how old you are but your mind seems to be stuck in 1776. I would never ever look down on a woman just because she cant cook. Edited January 1, 2011 by musemaj11
Distant78 Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 Im not the woman who wont have sex with her husband just because he doesnt know how to sand mold out or whatever it was. Speaking about being a douche. Maybe you are living in the wrong era lady. I dont know how old you are but your mind seems to be stuck in 1776. I would never ever look down on a woman just because she cant cook. Wow.
sweetjasmine Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 I would never ever look down on a woman just because she cant cook. Oh, really? Personally, these are the traits of a lady for me: -Keep her voice down -Be subservient toward her man -Dont talk back to men -Know how to clean -Know how to cook -Know how to take care of children -Dress modestly -Maintain her appearance In my opinion, only if she meets all these criteria a woman can expect a man to be a gentleman and treats her like lady. It seems to me, these days women think that they are ladies just by sitting pretty and doing nothing. They all want the perfect man with traditional qualities while they themselves lack the traditional qualities of a good woman. I mean its sad that when I read threads about men complaining that for example their new wives have no clue about working around the house. A woman who cant cook and clean are lacking in womanly qualities. Its like a man who doesnt have a good job. :laugh::laugh::lmao:
sweetjasmine Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 First off let me say I am not one of those guys. My family were master carpenters and masons from Europe. I know how to do it all. This realization started when my neighbor had a flat tire and I had to go over and change the tire for him because he did not know how to do it. As a matter of fact he did not even know how to hold a screwdriver nor use the lug wrench. I am coming to find out that there are LOTS of men like this. I am pretty surprised. They dont like fiddling with things and frankly wont even do basic things like changing a faucet washer. What do women think of men that are like this? Is it generally viewed in a negative way? If someone (regardless of gender) didn't know how to hold a screwdriver or use a lug wrench, I would think it was pretty odd. I'm a practical person, so I value practicality in a partner. I would get very frustrated and irritated if my partner couldn't do anything with his hands. I don't just mean handyman fixit things like changing a faucet washer or tire but also other things like cleaning, cooking, and general problem solving. I'm good with my hands, and so is my partner, and I really appreciate that about him. We both cook well, though I'm a little better at using the knives and much better at baking/desserts than he is. I clean more thoroughly than he does, but he has formal training in electronics and years of practical experience in fixing and maintaining machinery, engines, complicated systems, etc. while I can only do basic handyman things. I can sew well and knit decently, and he's a bit better at fixing computers than I am. I'm more creative and resourceful in solving problems, and he has experience with cars that I barely have (because I've never owned one). Honestly, I wouldn't have it any other way. I love that he's handy and practical, and there have been times when one of us has been stuck on something, and the other has been able to jump in and help. I don't think less of people who aren't good with their hands, but I do value that in a partner. I'd rather get stranded with a partner who would help me change the tire (or who I would help change the tire ) if we got stuck on an isolated country road far from any town than a partner who would rather sit and wait half an hour for someone else to come and fix it. With the former, it's more fun for me.
dreamingoftigers Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 Sure you will. You mean like my neighbor asking me to help him change a tire while his wife looked on with disgust the he couldnt do it. I bet he didnt get trim that night . I bet he would have if he told her something along the lines of: "I wish I had known how to do that, seeing that other guy change the tire made me feel like less of a man. I better just go clean the kitchen." Yeah, he'd get laid.
dreamingoftigers Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 Wow. You know what is funny? I used the exact same response to another one of this person's posts.
Els Posted January 1, 2011 Posted January 1, 2011 Oh, really? :laugh::laugh::lmao: Aww, darn, you beat me to it!
musemaj11 Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 (edited) Oh, really? :laugh::laugh::lmao: Woman, I want u to open the dictionary n look up the term 'satire'. Edited January 2, 2011 by musemaj11
AverageJoe Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 I really dont care how a women may perceive someone in regards to this topic. But I have to say, I am very surprised at the men here that dont know how to change a ****ing tire.
sweetjasmine Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 Woman, I want u to open the dictionary n look up the term 'satire'. Man, I want u to open the dictionary n look up the term 'troll'.
Distant78 Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 I really dont care how a women may perceive someone in regards to this topic. But I have to say, I am very surprised at the men here that dont know how to change a ****ing tire. So what if they don't know how to change a tire? And?
USCGAviator Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 This man is familiar with lefty loosey righty tighty
Stung Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 What do women think of men that are like this? Is it generally viewed in a negative way? For myself, a man who has practical handy skills is a positive--but a lack of them is just a neutral state, not a negative. I want the person I'm seeing to have some kind of well-developed skills, but they don't have to translate to being handy around the house/garage. I've dated both men who liked to fix anything and everything themselves and men who picked up the phone to get everything serviced, and I guess my husband is somewhere in between. He can fix and assemble absolutely anything computer-related, he's a huge tech geek. He also builds robots and welds metal sculpture as a hobby, but those particular skills don't come up around the house very often . He's a better cook than I am, and he can do some basic carpentry, plumbing and car maintenance but for complicated jobs he will get professional help. I can do basic cooking and light sewing like replacing buttons or hemming pants, I clean more thoroughly than he does although we both hate cleaning. I can sand and paint, strip and stain furniture, lay tile. I'm not much with carpentry even though I took woodshop one year, but I can make my own cutting boards and bookshelves if I have to for some reason . I do a little gardening but I like my garden to be easy to maintain and practically grow itself--for some reason I just can't keep plants alive indoors, I am The Bringer of Death to houseplants. Indoor plants are my husband's job. I can change a tire, but that's the extent of my car knowledge, honestly I don't even like to drive if I can just walk or take the train instead. Most of my handsy-craftsyness is not really that practical, i.e. I can wax-cast and make my own silver jewelry and I can make my own botanical soap. My dad was an amateur artisan with wood and turned his basement into a woodshop. He built half my furniture and helped remodel my condo years ago when I bought my own property for the first time. He and my husband recently did some man-bonding building a new deck on my parents' house. He's also got an amazing green thumb and his gardens are pretty incredible, AND he's a first-rate cook. I kind of wish I'd inherited more of his skills.
AverageJoe Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 So what if they don't know how to change a tire? And? They should goddamn learn, wouldnt you think? Helpless mother****ers cant change a tire?? Welcome to the pussification of man. This has nothing to do with the female persuasion. Are you really telling me, as a person of my own gender. You cant change a ****ing tire?
westrock Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 They should goddamn learn, wouldnt you think? Helpless mother****ers cant change a tire?? Welcome to the pussification of man. This has nothing to do with the female persuasion. Are you really telling me, as a person of my own gender. You cant change a ****ing tire? But where do we draw the line as to what a man should be able to know how to do? Since technology and society is continuously advancing, one could make comments similar to yours at any time in history.
dreamingoftigers Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 I didn't think of a lot of these: For myself, a man who has practical handy skills is a positive--but a lack of them is just a neutral state, not a negative. (Agreed) I want the person I'm seeing to have some kind of well-developed skills, but they don't have to translate to being handy around the house/garage. I've dated both men who liked to fix anything and everything themselves and men who picked up the phone to get everything serviced, and I guess my husband is somewhere in between. He can fix and assemble absolutely anything computer-related, he's a huge tech geek. (My husband does pretty good computer-wise, looks up what he doesn't get right away and then follows-through) He also builds robots and welds metal sculpture as a hobby, but those particular skills don't come up around the house very often (my husband can weld, did some beginner stuff, then found a better job). . He's a better cook than I am, (we are even on this) and he can do some basic carpentry,(nope) plumbing(nope) and car maintenance (he can do very basic car stuff, all self-taught, nearly killed me when he first started changing tires though, had one come off on the highway! I can change a tire, oil do all of the fluids etc.) but for complicated jobs he will get professional help. I can do basic cooking and light sewing like replacing buttons or hemming pants, I clean more thoroughly than he does although we both hate cleaning. ( I can do some pretty complex cooking, we both clean for a living, he was a much better cleaner, but I caught up and I think I may have surpassed him on floors, but I hate to vacuum, so it all evens out). He does however know how to strip and wax floors and do commercial cleaning. I can sand and paint,(nope) strip and stain furniture,(nope) lay tile (yes and re-grout, we have restored a floor together). I'm not much with carpentry even though I took woodshop one year, but I can make my own cutting boards and bookshelves if I have to for some reason . (nope) I do a little gardening but I like my garden to be easy to maintain and practically grow itself--for some reason I just can't keep plants alive indoors, I am The Bringer of Death to houseplants. Indoor plants are my husband's job. ( my husband too, he also mills flour) I can change a tire, but that's the extent of my car knowledge, honestly I don't even like to drive if I can just walk or take the train instead. Most of my handsy-craftsyness is not really that practical, i.e. I can wax-cast and make my own silver jewelry and I can make my own botanical soap. My dad was an amateur artisan with wood and turned his basement into a woodshop. He built half my furniture and helped remodel my condo years ago when I bought my own property for the first time. He and my husband recently did some man-bonding building a new deck on my parents' house. He's also got an amazing green thumb and his gardens are pretty incredible, AND he's a first-rate cook. I kind of wish I'd inherited more of his skills. My H also has a secret skill: he crochets. he crocheted me a HUGE blanket (bigger then a king sized bed blanket) when we first got together to show me he loved me and when he had to be away it would let me know he could still be with me in a way. It took him weeks, it was very touching.:love: I can knit. yay.
AverageJoe Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 (edited) But where do we draw the line as to what a man should be able to know how to do? Since technology and society is continuously advancing, one could make comments similar to yours at any time in history. So you are of those as well? Hey pal, when you were riding around on your bikes with your buddies having a good time. Things were going well and the chain come off. *gasp* You called AAA to fix it didnt you? Sat on the side of the dirt track waiting, for minutes, maybe hours. Meanwhile, your buddies adjusted their chains and rode their bikes off having a great time. You, well you just sat their wondering. When is AAA gonna get here? Need to be home before that street light kicks on. Then one day you bought a car. Did the thought, ever, just, ever occur. Damn, I may have a flat one day. Edited January 2, 2011 by AverageJoe
zengirl Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 I was just thinking about this thread. My friends from New Jersey are down, and the two of them (a couple, male and female) had never learned how to pump gas before. Guess you can't pump your own gas in NJ and that's the only place they've ever driven. Now, I thought that was a bit extreme. But I guess it just depends on what is useful to you.
homebrew Posted January 2, 2011 Posted January 2, 2011 But where do we draw the line as to what a man should be able to know how to do? Since technology and society is continuously advancing, one could make comments similar to yours at any time in history. Good Grief! We are talking about changing a tire... I am the biggest computer dork known to man... but for my sake... I "learned" (if you even want to call it that) how to change a tire. Lucky enough for me, it is a "skill" (if you want to call it that) that has come in handy the last 20+ years I have been driving. I have had to do it many, many times. My father made all 4 of my sisters learn / show him how to change a tire before they were allow to drive. He did this for their own safety should they ever be in a situation to have to do it themselves. So if my Dad thinks it's a good idea for my 4 sisters... I don't see why it is not something I (or everyone else) should want / know how to do.
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