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Actually, to quote myself correctly, in the 3rd person. Was "Curious".

The curious you refer to was not actually an answer at all. It was my original question, curious isnt it? So, it really cant be curious at all. Because, it was my original post out of curiosity. Not a curious answer. I dont know how that could be superficial given it was my original quote. Yet, you turned it into a curious question. Ironic isnt it?

 

You had cited it as your answer, which was what I was referencing.

 

I'm curious as to what made you curious about such a thing, which is what I've clearly asked, several times. If you don't want to answer (or don't know what provokes your own thoughts, as many don't -- I find this superficial), then don't, but you seem very dense as to my question.

 

My initial question "What is your reasoning?" or otherwise worded, "Why would you ask?" or otherwise worded, "Why were you curious?" (since apparently you don't understand the question) calls for some reflection, I suppose. I've yet to see any from you.

 

As to why I was curious (about your reasoning), it was because I always wonder why people do what they do and I didn't see a clear motivation. You shot down what I thought was the most likely inference -- saying it wasn't that you didn't think men and women had nothing to talk about -- and I was asking for a replacement for it, declining to infer farther when I had the original source present.

 

To me, that's a natural step. Mostly because I'm an English teacher, was an English major, and that's what you do in literary criticism----you wonder, "Why did the writer decide to place that there?" Also what you do when studying psychology/sociology, which I have a degree in as well. So, yes, I can answer why I was curious on my part.

 

Apparently, you. . . can't. That's okay, but don't turn it into more than it is. You don't know why you went down said line of conversation, except that you wanted to . . . is what I'm getting now. People do that. Seems superficial to me. And to many of my male AND female friends.

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For your reference, the post in question appears below:

You had cited it as your answer, which was what I was referencing.

 

I'm curious as to what made you curious about such a thing, which is what I've clearly asked, several times. If you don't want to answer (or don't know what provokes your own thoughts, as many don't -- I find this superficial), then don't, but you seem very dense as to my question.

 

My initial question "What is your reasoning?" or otherwise worded, "Why would you ask?" or otherwise worded, "Why were you curious?" (since apparently you don't understand the question) calls for some reflection, I suppose. I've yet to see any from you.

 

As to why I was curious (about your reasoning), it was because I always wonder why people do what they do and I didn't see a clear motivation. You shot down what I thought was the most likely inference -- saying it wasn't that you didn't think men and women had nothing to talk about -- and I was asking for a replacement for it, declining to infer farther when I had the original source present.

 

To me, that's a natural step. Mostly because I'm an English teacher, was an English major, and that's what you do in literary criticism----you wonder, "Why did the writer decide to place that there?" Also what you do when studying psychology/sociology, which I have a degree in as well. So, yes, I can answer why I was curious on my part.

 

Apparently, you. . . can't. That's okay, but don't turn it into more than it is. You don't know why you went down said line of conversation, except that you wanted to . . . is what I'm getting now. People do that. Seems superficial to me. And to many of my male AND female friends.

 

So much for brevity.

 

 

Really, I mean. Seriously? Zengirl.

 

I will probably banned after this post. Never been on a forum where opinions cant be expressed freely with communal dialogue. Hell, I even moderate one.

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Really, I mean. Seriously? Zengirl.

 

I will probably banned after this post. Never been on a forum where opinions cant be expressed freely with communal dialogue. Hell, I even moderate one.

 

Well, I don't know what to say to all that, except I didn't flag it. I've been hanging out with friends and just came back online. I didn't see the post (it's already been deleted), and it really doesn't hurt my feelings much. FTR, I don't personally see any reason why you should be banned. I mean, sarcasm is a bit rude sometimes, but my skin is WAY thicker than all that. No worries in my book.

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Don't know what you mean. . . I didn't flag it. I've been hanging out with friends and just came back online. I didn't see the post (it's already been deleted), and it really doesn't hurt my feelings much.

 

FTR, I only flag content that's racist or otherwise offensive (in general, not to me personally---think I flagged once, for the N word and some pretty gross racist comments, and don't remember flagging any other time), and you hadn't even offended me. Frustrated me? Maybe, but I don't think you should be banned or otherwise penalized by moderators for anything in this thread.

 

Thank you for your response. I was beginning to wonder. I had hoped it wasnt you.

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Thank you for your response. I was beginning to wonder. I had hoped it wasnt you.

 

Nope, not me. And look I even tried to edit my above post for brevity! ;) But you quoted it first.

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So, what was that all about? Confused.

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The problem with this question is in the stem "True or false". THis isn't a black and white thing at all. Relationships do not exist as a black and white entity (honestly I'd put a giant period at the end of that). They kind of exist like a group, but I would seriously liken it more to a spectrum.

 

So saying no guys can be friends with any girls they are sexually attracted to. I mean this just isn't true for me. Now if I was more attractive to females, maybe this would be harder for me to achieve (because THEY are more interested), or if the girls I was "friends" with were perceived by me to be very attractive I would agree as well. But obviously there are people inbetween on both viewpoints who can hold friendships with girls.

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Outside the internet, no. Every man "friend" I have had offline, has ulterior motives. Unless he is strictly gay or not a close friend. Almost every male friend my new roommate has is some guy who hit on her and she turned down. I am friends with my ex on an emotional emergency basis (ie we have depression and I don't have many friends). That being said, if we understand we aren't sexually compatible, then it could work. Or if my guy friend is my exact personality type, I'm not going to consciously date another INFP, it would be too narcissistic/make me hate my own type if it didn't work out. I'm often friends with dudes, because they are part of a mixed gender group of work friends. With groups I keep a distance, so I don't get attached to my guy friends. Crushes still happens though, since they are willing to be there emotionally and mentally, not just physically, I find them appealing. I've never been without male friends, if the woman is with you and not them, there is good reason for it.

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I can't believe that post got flagged. I've been flagged for petty sh*t like that as well. Political correctness usually results in infractions.

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