Men Don't Need Women Friends, True or False?

[homebrew]

1. Men don't need as many friends as a women. We can get by with very few.

 

2. One women is hard enough... Why would a man need female friends other than his current one?

 

3. What need is this other women meeting that he can't get from his current one? I get being friendly to women... but FRIENDS... Like talking on the phone? Hanging out? To me... That is just weird... (Unless it's family of course)

[FryFish]

Are females really so blind that they cant see that MOST of their male "friends" are really just waiting to bang them? Or are they just not willing to admit that men are horndogs?

[homebrew]

A fling-ex, a guy in his mid-30s, once said that he tries to remain 'friends' with his exes and was open to friendship even if it meant re-connecting years later. When I told him that, for me, break up = NC forever, he said that meant that I'm not truly over my exes.

 

It made me wonder if some people consider it a badge of honour to keep an ex as a friend - proof that one can be a 'grownup' about it all.

 

Methinks, he just wanted a harem of potential back-ups and FWBs.

 

Funny...

 

You go into the break up and divorce forum here on LS (A small sample of people out there)... How many of those break ups / divorces are due to relationships with their EX?

 

WAY MORE THAN 50%

 

I wonder how he would have felt had it been you with all the friends that were your EXes... I'm guessing not to happy!

[homebrew]

Are females really so blind that they cant see that MOST of their male "friends" are really just waiting to bang them? Or are they just not willing to admit that men are horndogs?

 

I would say... A little of both!

[carhill]

Really? Im pretty close with my two best friends wives kinsa like sisters but id feel funny hanging out with them without my friends..

The anecdote is a function of us being in each other's lives for 20 years. Such friendships are built over time.

[TG4MJ]

It's pretty comical, to say the least, when people assume that a male who hardly believes in truely platonic relationships between two attractive people of the opposite sex...is some how starved of human interaction and some ass. Tell me where that link is made.

 

Some guys can't keep female friends, like myself, because those said female friends always want something more. What does that tell you about the guy?

 

Some guys can't keep female friends for other reasons. What does that tell you about the guy?

 

So no, it's not immature, and it doesn't scream sexually starved and lacking any kind of human interaction, when a male poster replies that he doesn't really see the need for a female friend. And no, it doesn't mean that he views women as a commodity.

 

LS is chock full of ridiculously angry women who will twist what you typed, and turn it into what you didn't say.

 

I shouldn't have to imply or acknowledge that women are equal being in my eyes as far as rights, treatment, and etc go....when I say that I can't really keep female friends. I shouldn't have to tell you that I get ass when I feel like it...when I say that I think female friends are cool because they help out with questions you have about women. Shouldn't have to tell you that women are not a commodity....when I say something about women friends, and how I don't *need* them but find them pretty cool.

 

 

Jesus Christ, box all that feminist hostility up, put it in a rocket, tie yourself to mentioned rocket, and fly into the side of a cliff.

 

And how the **** do I put zengirl and sally4sara on ignore? Tired of these sexually frustrated shrews attacking me on every post...actually no, I'm tired of seeing what they have to say.

 

LMAO hallelulah MR. DM ! Now can I get an AMEN up in here !?!?! And people wonder why I don't do the "just friends" routine with women, because of little pendejias like this ! Good lord ! By the way your rocket idea is a little too harsh and far fetched, I'd have recommended Seppuku, lol.

[catgotyourtongue]

It's funny cause men are the ones who tell me all the time to watch "other men" who have female friends, cause you can't trust them. Often it's guys who perpetuate the idea, or enforce it. When you are dating a guy with female friends, he will tell you till your blue in the face, "they are just friends" stop worrying, etc. yet this is the same guy who will tell his buddies it cant be done platonically. Hard to know...hah?

 

I wish it were less complex because I love having male friends, and I know many men who really do enjoy the company of a women/woman because they can connect on a level they can't with the guys. For instance: a guy who loves to read, or loves animals, or likes shopping, or old movies, or whatever. I have dated some men who were very diverse in interests. Meaning they were well rounded, and not just guys guys. Happy to sit at a bar with a chilly beer, but happy to hit a museum or play too. These men had more in common with women then some men do.

It's not a knock or dig on men, it's to say each is different and wants/needs diff. things.

 

I think some men truly can enjoy a friendship with a woman, and appreciate what the female perspective offers, it's a deeper connection usually. I speak from experience and have a lot of male friends and am over age 40. Agreed a lot of my good male friends are ex boyfriends, but not all. I have had 10 yr friendships with no sexual hints, talks etc, we are JUST FRIENDS. Some of the ex's are very good friends, and I dont and have not slept with them post breakup. I am invited to their homes / out for drinks, etc and they have girlfriends or wives that not only accept it, but they join in sometimes..and sometimes not. IT is abt maturity, trust and me as the friend, knowing the boundaries. The male friend will have to know boundaries as well. I have set up a lot of boundaries to help make sure their girlfriends, or my boyfriends, dont feel hurt, jealous, awkward and I keep it foremost in my mind. RESPECT and honest and trust. They do same and make their sig others priority and I dont expect any less, nor do I call and bother or place myself deep into "their" world, we hang out, email, get together, but keep it on the up and up and I change the type of conversations I have with them, to always respect a boundary, for me, them and their gals.

 

These men get a lot out of my friendship, and they have been true, good and reliable friends. They are not getting anything sexual, nor expecting it, but I tend to be fun, silly, deep, real, and people feel close and comfy around me, especially men. So i think they stay friends with me for that connection and outlet, not because they are hoping to get laid. I am reliable, there for you, and you can count on me...I can do the same with them, and it matters a lot.

 

BUT yes there are others, and many men, that would not last in my circle of friends because if i know they only want to get laid, or are waiting, or are trying to make someone else jealous, i back out, off and run far away. I dont play games. I do think most men have issues keeping it platonic, so I agree its a sticky wicket, but not impossible.

 

I LOVE my male friends, and I have very different relationships, connections with them, some deeper than i can get with women ...hard to explain, but i am not a girly girl and like the companionship and change of pace from girl time. I also have a ton of girlfriends, and am social, so that may be part of it, i am a people person, through and through, and a friend for life type.

 

I know many men who only talk to their friends abt two things, and go out and do two things with them, beer and food. They crave a deeper connection to humans, and often that connection will be with a women. Most of my guy friends would tell me more than they would their male friends. They have an ease with me, as a woman.

 

I do think men benefit from women friends. It's how some and many learn about women in the first place...if the only place u learned about women was from MEN, we would combust as a planet. lol. My male friends have grown from knowing me, and vice versa.

 

BUT I will admit, I still don't trust most men, and especially with ex girlfriends. SO I am not saying it's all cool and dandy, I have been lucky to keep and maintain these friends, but if roles were reversed, a boyfriend of mine had a ton of female friends or was close to several of his ex's, I am sure I would be insecure and have some issues or random thoughts, feelings. I would never tell him he cant have them, would not stand in his way, but i would have a watchful eye and wonder if more was there. This is how society has bred us.....it is what it is. Shame hah?

[catgotyourtongue]

If neither the man nor the woman wants more than a friendship, that's a healthy place to be. I would not be able to be close friends with an ex or someone that I wanted to date or had more than platonic feelings for. That would be very unhealthy for me, so I would not do it. For me, if neither of us is looking for more from eachother, the friendship can last and be wonderful. I know that many people will say RED FLAG because it "could" turn into something, but that's no reason to never have a friend of the opposite sex. Honesty and respect, that's what it's about.

 

So, if a man still has feelings or is developing feelings for a woman that just wants to be friends, he will most likely have a hard time staying just pals...i think women can do it more easily...cause we dont think with our peckers, lol..we dont have any...

 

if you are a guy that wants to sleep with every woman you know, and can't take your johnson out of the picture, then, no, perhaps you dont "need" women friends....but having them platonically might help you have more successful real relationships when they do happen. You can learn a lot from female friends...:-)

[dispatch3d]

I dont have any women friends aside from my good friends wives because i dont seem to have anything in common with most women..

 

Whenever i hear a bunch of women get together and talk its like a foreign language to me..Im not saying its bad or anything just nothign i can relate to..

 

This would be why I like having female friends/what I get out of having them.... if you want to think about it like this. Can develop some common interests.

 

edit: not with them, just women in general.

[homebrew]

Good God... Know wonder women have such a hard time finding men they admire, respect and know how to be a leader in the relationship!

 

What is the point of having women friends if you are a man?!?!?!

 

Assuming you get married... Do you think your spouse is going to be happy that you have female friends that you confide in?

 

Put the shoe on the other foot... Are you going to be thrilled that your wife is having intimate conversations about you and the relationship with another man?!?!?!

 

I doubt it... So quit lying to us and yourself...

 

Quit acting like a little b!tch that you are and go make some male friends!

 

Maybe, just maybe... there is a chance that these new male friends you make might rub off on you.

 

PS - When making new male friends... Don't talk about the movie you watched on the Lifetime Channel last night.

Edited December 30, 2010 by homebrew

[that girl]

One women is hard enough... Why would a man need female friends other than his current one?

 

i dont seem to have anything in common with most women..

 

Whenever i hear a bunch of women get together and talk its like a foreign language to me..Im not saying its bad or anything just nothign i can relate to..

 

I think if this is how a man sees women, he is going to have a really hard time forming a great romantic relationship. He's assuming women are these aliens with nothing in common, but people aren't that divided by gender.

 

Also, I wonder if some of these thoughts come from only knowing women as possible dates. Expectations are a lot higher for a boyfriend/girlfriend then they are for a friend. For example, my bff (female) isn't a hugger while I am. Normally, I hug friends but since it isn't something she's fond of, I don't. It isn't a big deal because we're just friends, but I wouldn't be able to date someone like that because I am more affectionate by nature. There are a lot of things that don't really bother me with friends that would be a deal breaker with a significant other like having really different goals or really different interests when it comes to what to do over the weekend.

 

I honestly think the 'men don't need women friends' spiel is mostly propagated by men who, in actual fact, struggle with forming any sort of connection with a woman other than sexual.

I think this is true. I think that a lot of times the opposite sex friend role can be filled by a relative- a sibling or cousin you are super close with and hang out with regularly outside of family events. Those relationships have nothing to do with sex.

 

I have taken advice from women in the past. What I found was how remarkably wrong they were when put into practice. Sure, it sounds good on the surface but completely misguided.

I think advice from an opposite sex friend can be incredibly helpful. Look at the "My boyfriend gave me the same flowers as his mom for Christmas!" thread. A lot of guys are obsessively defending it, but a lot of women immediately see why both flowers and the same gift as his mom could be disappointing. I doubt that guy asked a woman for gift giving advice, but if he had she likely would have steered him another way, avoiding disappointment.

 

Some women and men just give crappy advice, but most of this "don't listen to women" stuff seems to mostly come from guys who are trying the whole pick up artist thing. Most women are going to give you advice that would help you form a relationship with an interested woman, obviously if you want to have random casual sex with low self esteem having women it isn't going to be useful. But the problem there isn't the women giving advice, it is the guy not making it clear that he isn't looking for love.

[catgotyourtongue]

That Girl

Great post, well said and great perspective. I agree with it all, and it was said way better than my rambling novel, lol so thanks for posting this.

 

amen sista'

 

I think if this is how a man sees women, he is going to have a really hard time forming a great romantic relationship. He's assuming women are these aliens with nothing in common, but people aren't that divided by gender.

 

Also, I wonder if some of these thoughts come from only knowing women as possible dates. Expectations are a lot higher for a boyfriend/girlfriend then they are for a friend. For example, my bff (female) isn't a hugger while I am. Normally, I hug friends but since it isn't something she's fond of, I don't. It isn't a big deal because we're just friends, but I wouldn't be able to date someone like that because I am more affectionate by nature. There are a lot of things that don't really bother me with friends that would be a deal breaker with a significant other like having really different goals or really different interests when it comes to what to do over the weekend.

 

 

I think this is true. I think that a lot of times the opposite sex friend role can be filled by a relative- a sibling or cousin you are super close with and hang out with regularly outside of family events. Those relationships have nothing to do with sex.

 

 

I think advice from an opposite sex friend can be incredibly helpful. Look at the "My boyfriend gave me the same flowers as his mom for Christmas!" thread. A lot of guys are obsessively defending it, but a lot of women immediately see why both flowers and the same gift as his mom could be disappointing. I doubt that guy asked a woman for gift giving advice, but if he had she likely would have steered him another way, avoiding disappointment.

 

Some women and men just give crappy advice, but most of this "don't listen to women" stuff seems to mostly come from guys who are trying the whole pick up artist thing. Most women are going to give you advice that would help you form a relationship with an interested woman, obviously if you want to have random casual sex with low self esteem having women it isn't going to be useful. But the problem there isn't the women giving advice, it is the guy not making it clear that he isn't looking for love.

[homebrew]

I think if this is how a man sees women, he is going to have a really hard time forming a great romantic relationship. He's assuming women are these aliens with nothing in common, but people aren't that divided by gender.

 

Also, I wonder if some of these thoughts come from only knowing women as possible dates. Expectations are a lot higher for a boyfriend/girlfriend then they are for a friend. For example, my bff (female) isn't a hugger while I am. Normally, I hug friends but since it isn't something she's fond of, I don't. It isn't a big deal because we're just friends, but I wouldn't be able to date someone like that because I am more affectionate by nature. There are a lot of things that don't really bother me with friends that would be a deal breaker with a significant other like having really different goals or really different interests when it comes to what to do over the weekend.

 

 

I think this is true. I think that a lot of times the opposite sex friend role can be filled by a relative- a sibling or cousin you are super close with and hang out with regularly outside of family events. Those relationships have nothing to do with sex.

 

 

I think advice from an opposite sex friend can be incredibly helpful. Look at the "My boyfriend gave me the same flowers as his mom for Christmas!" thread. A lot of guys are obsessively defending it, but a lot of women immediately see why both flowers and the same gift as his mom could be disappointing. I doubt that guy asked a woman for gift giving advice, but if he had she likely would have steered him another way, avoiding disappointment.

 

Some women and men just give crappy advice, but most of this "don't listen to women" stuff seems to mostly come from guys who are trying the whole pick up artist thing. Most women are going to give you advice that would help you form a relationship with an interested woman, obviously if you want to have random casual sex with low self esteem having women it isn't going to be useful. But the problem there isn't the women giving advice, it is the guy not making it clear that he isn't looking for love.

 

So let's play a game... You and I are married right... It's date night tonight...

 

Now one of my best friends calls me and tells me to come over because they need me... They just had a horrible break up.

 

Now be honest... If it was one of my male friends... You would not care and would understand. However, I was blowing off date night to go take care of one of my "girlfriends" at her house instead of taking you out on date night... you cannot tell me for one second that you would not be affected in a negative way by this.

 

You think your husband is going to be cool in this same situation if it was reversed? Sorry dear... I know I look great... but Jake needs me. I am going to go over to his house and consul him because Sally just dumped him. Have fun sitting at home while I am taking care of another man.

 

Get REAL PEOPLE! It's like college... It sounds great when you read it in a book or hear it from a Professor but it just doesn't work like that in the real world!

 

As far as a female point of view goes... I have 4 sisters... So why would I need more female companions in my life? Can't I find that at home so to speak? Wouldn't you agree they know me better than any other female would?

 

Quit making excuses for your BF just because he is a little girly man and has no male friends...

 

I am 38... My male friends range from 28 - 57... Not once has any of us ever been told by our GFes / wifes.... Honey, I sure do wish you would go out and make some "girlfriends" and I really do want you to talk to them on the phone and go and spend quality time with them. Cause after all, that is what friends do.

 

For the Love of God... Theory is one thing... Real Life is something altogether different!

Edited December 30, 2010 by homebrew

[Seamless74]

Now be honest... If it was one of my male friends... You would not care and would understand. However, I was blowing off date night to go take care of one of my "girlfriends" at her house instead of taking you out on date night... you cannot tell me for one second that you would not be affected in a negative way by this.

 

What are you talking bout theyre women theyd be mad either way lol.. but yeah definately more so if it was a girl friend that much is true..

 

 

women who like having male friends = attention whores

 

men who like being platonic friends with women = bitch boys

[welikeincrowds]

However, I was blowing off date night to go take care of one of my "girlfriends" at her house instead of taking you out on date night... you cannot tell me for one second that you would not be affected in a negative way by this.

Why would this surprise you?

 

Yes, there are boundaries you have to set with people to pay respect and to not give the wrong impression. It's not a double standard or a contradiction, so I don't see what you're getting at. It doesn't mean men and women can't be friends.

 

I also am having trouble managing this thread because at times I can't tell if it's a man v woman thing or a friends vs gf thing. Most of the hypotheticals would still stand if we were talking about only one gender and gay relationships.

[homebrew]

Why would this surprise you?

 

Yes, there are boundaries you have to set with people to pay respect and to not give the wrong impression. It's not a double standard or a contradiction, so I don't see what you're getting at. It doesn't mean men and women can't be friends.

 

I also am having trouble managing this thread because at times I can't tell if it's a man v woman thing or a friends vs gf thing. Most of the hypotheticals would still stand if we were talking about only one gender and gay relationships.

 

If there are no boundaries with my male friends... Since there shouldn't be any DIFFERENCES the fact that I have friends that are "girls" then why do they require boundaries?

 

The point is... There IS A DIFFERENCE!

 

It's just that these girly men / women who date girly men do not want to admit it!

 

Can the men or the women answer this?

 

Has your BF / GF or Husband / Wife asked you to go make friends with someone of the opposite sex? The type of friends that you speak with, email with, text with, spend time with, have dinner with, lunch with, drink with, go to the lake with, go camping with, go shopping with, go to the game with, go play golf with, etc.

[catgotyourtongue]

There is a huge difference between your boyfriend or husband telling you he wants to actively pursue a lot of new female friends...then if he had a few good, honest female friends before you met.

 

I know what your point is, and agree in real life, it's not simple or easy, and is can be complex. But there is a huge difference in me having a platonic male friend for 20 years since high school, then me telling a guy "hey I just met these great guy at a conference and we are going to start hanging out" etc. I think you are correct in that in theory it works better than reality, but bottom line, it's not one way only. You can have business colleagues or even ex's yes ex's that can be part of your current life without it automatically causing disaster, and yes "boundaries are necessary" which does not make it wrong...most things have boundaries.

 

Our behavior in public, our work behavior and choices, families, friends, i have boundaries in all these areas, so i dont think it automatically makes it a bad or wrong thing just because you have to create some boundaries around it. I have boundaries on budget, cell phone calls, you name it, cause I impose them to stay in tact, as i would with male, female friendships. I am not saying that it works often ...I am saying it has worked for me...well...with a fair amt of work and sometimes without..

 

If there are no boundaries with my male friends... Since there shouldn't be any DIFFERENCES the fact that I have friends that are "girls" then why do they require boundaries?

 

The point is... There IS A DIFFERENCE!

 

It's just that these girly men / women who date girly men do not want to admit it!

 

Can the men or the women answer this?

 

Has your BF / GF or Husband / Wife asked you to go make friends with someone of the opposite sex? The type of friends that you speak with, email with, text with, spend time with, have dinner with, lunch with, drink with, go to the lake with, go camping with, go shopping with, go to the game with, go play golf with, etc.

[homebrew]

I guess it boils down to what works for you and your partner / spouse.

 

Me personally, none of my friends or family that are in relationships or married have maintained a close friendship with someone of the opposite sex... None of them have been divorced or cheated on and all seem very happy. So not having friends of the opposite sex works okay too!

 

For me... Why would I want to be in a serious relationship (that will lead into marriage) with a women that requires male companionship / have a need met by another man?

 

I want to be my wife's best friend, her partner and her lover... Why would I want to share one or two of those with another man?

 

Most women think like I do... So I will just stick to "my kind".

 

Less drama, less headaches, less things I have to worry about...

[ConflictedGuy27]

If there are no boundaries with my male friends... Since there shouldn't be any DIFFERENCES the fact that I have friends that are "girls" then why do they require boundaries?

 

The point is... There IS A DIFFERENCE!

 

It's just that these girly men / women who date girly men do not want to admit it!

 

Can the men or the women answer this?

 

Has your BF / GF or Husband / Wife asked you to go make friends with someone of the opposite sex? The type of friends that you speak with, email with, text with, spend time with, have dinner with, lunch with, drink with, go to the lake with, go camping with, go shopping with, go to the game with, go play golf with, etc.

 

dude, your posts are so out of left field the sheer ignorance is helping me label you a douche. lol. I'm trying to fight the urge.

 

the discussion isn't about the differences between opposite genders being friends; nor about any double standards that may exist with that platonic context. instead, this is simply a discussion of whether or not its true or false that men need platonic female friends.

 

get a clue. lol.

[StarryEyes86]

My best friend is a guy. He's just like my brother. Granted, we both used to have a thing for each other, but I live in CA and he lives in OK and we always missed our time. But we have always been supportive of each other's dating partners. I don't know where I'd be without my best friend. It may eventually fizzle out with one of us gets married but we're enjoying the friendship for now.

[welikeincrowds]

If there are no boundaries with my male friends

 

Ahahaha. Oh, no, you're all turned around.

 

If one of your male friends came onto you the next time you guys were kicking it, what would you do?

 

No boundaries, right?

 

You're addressing trust and ethics, which isn't really the purpose of this thread I guess.

[Stung]

If there are no boundaries with my male friends... Since there shouldn't be any DIFFERENCES the fact that I have friends that are "girls" then why do they require boundaries?

 

The point is... There IS A DIFFERENCE!

 

It's just that these girly men / women who date girly men do not want to admit it!

 

Can the men or the women answer this?

 

Has your BF / GF or Husband / Wife asked you to go make friends with someone of the opposite sex? The type of friends that you speak with, email with, text with, spend time with, have dinner with, lunch with, drink with, go to the lake with, go camping with, go shopping with, go to the game with, go play golf with, etc.

 

I don't believe anybody said there wasn't a difference. I interact differently with my male friends than I do with my female friends, of course. That doesn't mean they're not friends, it just means that it's prudent to set up different boundaries according to different situations, and to respect others' boundaries as well. I go out to dinner and drinks with and then spend the night at my female friends' houses occasionally, I don't do that with male friends. I wouldn't be too happy if my husband did that with female friends.

 

As for your question, maybe I can't answer it, because I don't understand it. My husband has never asked me to go and make friends with anyone, male or female. I had friends before I met him, and I have made a few more since I met him. Friendships have ebbed and flowed over the years, but I'm not sure why he would ever need to ask me specifically to make new friends.

[that girl]

Now one of my best friends calls me and tells me to come over because they need me... They just had a horrible break up.

 

Now be honest... If it was one of my male friends... You would not care and would understand. However, I was blowing off date night to go take care of one of my "girlfriends" at her house instead of taking you out on date night... you cannot tell me for one second that you would not be affected in a negative way by this.

There is a difference between being friends and being best friends.

 

There are only a few people who one would be so close to they would call them when they were really upset. If you're that close, the friendship should be okay with your significant other already.

 

One of my good friends was introduced to her husband by his female bff. The husband and his bff have been friends since they were 11 and she has always been totally supportive of their relationship (she is the one who set them up). I'm sure there were some crushes one way or the other, but they've never hooked up in anyway. She is also one of the prettiest women I know. Now, this isn't my husband but if it was and his super pretty, totally supportive bff needed comfort I'd let him go and wouldn't worry about it.

 

You think your husband is going to be cool in this same situation if it was reversed? Sorry dear... I know I look great... but Jake needs me. I am going to go over to his house and consul him because Sally just dumped him. Have fun sitting at home while I am taking care of another man.

My closest male friend is a blood relative. I really can't imagine a guy who would be bothered by that.

 

If there are no boundaries with my male friends... Since there shouldn't be any DIFFERENCES the fact that I have friends that are "girls" then why do they require boundaries?

I bet you do have boundaries with your guy friends. Like maybe you never hug or your never bring up his ex or you never ask him what sex with his girlfriend is like. Most relationships have boundaries.

 

Where male/female friendships get tricky is if you put the friend over your significant other or if there is a dating element to it. These things wouldn't be good in a same sex friendship either.

 

Honey, I sure do wish you would go out and make some "girlfriends" and I really do want you to talk to them on the phone and go and spend quality time with them. Cause after all, that is what friends do.

The problem is not being able to imagine why you would bother hanging out with a woman if sex isn't on the table. As if women have nothing else to offer.

 

Again, I think female relatives (other than your mom, because that is a different situation) can fill the roll of female friend. I know not everyone has a sister or cousin they are close to, but that is a totally non-sexually way to have a deep connection with a woman whose opinion you value.

[threebyfate]

There are men who just can't be friends with women, because they have a basically misogynistic outlook. Then there are men who are genuine, good people who value others for who they are rather than simply for what they can get out of them.

Fully agree!

 

The false friendship of men in the former category would be something I can quite happily live without. As for this notion of "being put in the friend zone"...when I perceive somebody as a friend, I'm paying them a compliment. It doesn't mean I'm sexually attracted to them, it doesn't mean I'm not. It means I think they're a cool person who I admire, respect and trust. If somebody I thought was a friend wanted to throw that compliment back in my face, I'd be more than happy to kick them out of my friendzone.

I've stopped caring about this aspect. If they're retarded enough to believe that hanging around will do them any good, that's their problem not mine.

[homebrew]

dude, your posts are so out of left field the sheer ignorance is helping me label you a douche. lol. I'm trying to fight the urge.

 

the discussion isn't about the differences between opposite genders being friends; nor about any double standards that may exist with that platonic context. instead, this is simply a discussion of whether or not its true or false that men need platonic female friends.

 

get a clue. lol.

 

What works for you... Cool!

 

What works for me... Cool!

 

true or false that men need platonic female friends

 

For me and every other male I know... the answer is: FALSE

 

Me or any of my male friends are not CONFLICTED on our logic, reasoning and thought process on why we feel and think this that way.

 

We are not in the minority... However... It doesn't mean our way is the only way nor does it mean that your way is wrong!

 

I'm sure of what is best for me!

Edited January 1, 2011 by a LoveShack.org Moderator