Author griffinchicken53 Posted December 5, 2010 Author Posted December 5, 2010 I wouldn't seriously ask a date to cover herself , she could wear whatever she wants.
loverofloveandstuff Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 I love dating women with nice bodies especialy when they are willing to show it off. I will always take a respectful look at a womans body who is on a date with me. Nothing rude about asking your date to give you a spin so you can check out her back side. Also a great time to look down her shirt is when you are seating her at the table. Also I fully believe in taking a quick glance at the cleavage and letting her catch you looking. its flirty to have her catch you looking at her body. Nothing rude about it unless you rudely stare or make some pervy joke or comment. thankyou. musemaj, man it up.
musemaj11 Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 thankyou. musemaj, man it up. I need no manning up. Im already a man. Im still waiting for your answer to my question whether why you wont go on a date in a bikini.
loverofloveandstuff Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 I need no manning up. Im already a man. Im still waiting for your answer to my question whether why you wont go on a date in a bikini. I already answered it. Unless I'm going swimming, there is no reason to wear swimwear. BTW, there are plenty of beautiful cocktail dresses and dinner wear that are low cut. It is just your preference that women don't wear it, to say that wearing a low cut dress is the same as wearing bikinis to dinner is ridiculous.
musemaj11 Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 I already answered it. Unless I'm going swimming, there is no reason to wear swimwear. BTW, there are plenty of beautiful cocktail dresses and dinner wear that are low cut. It is just your preference that women don't wear it, to say that wearing a low cut dress is the same as wearing bikinis to dinner is ridiculous. As long as the dress is classy and respectful, its fine. But I assumed the OP was talking about women who show more cleavage than necessary in a provocative way. I already answered it. Unless I'm going swimming, there is no reason to wear swimwear. Okay if you wanna play semantic. Would u go on a date in a two piece?
loverofloveandstuff Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 As long as the dress is classy and respectful, its fine. But I assumed the OP was talking about women who show more cleavage than necessary in a provocative way. Okay if you wanna play semantic. Would u go on a date in a two piece? as in two pieces of clothing? short shorts and a singlet top? yes. if it was a date to the beach yes. I would wear bikinis.
Titania22 Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 I just want to say, that I am a woman and not gay at all, but I find good cleavage very mesmerising, and I don't even think the male body has anything that is equivalently mesmerising. So I can well understand guys being distracted by it. But I was also under the impression that on a date we shouldn't be trying to bundle everything away, lest we be seen as frigid or some such thing. I think a balance needs to be found.
musemaj11 Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 as in two pieces of clothing? short shorts and a singlet top? yes. No ... Okay anyway this is getting tedious. Im just gonna drop it. Personally I dont mind women who show a lot of cleavage. After all I like slutty girls. But I definitely wont take seriously a girl who dresses with her boobs hanging out.
loverofloveandstuff Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 No ... Okay anyway this is getting tedious. Im just gonna drop it. Personally I dont mind women who show a lot of cleavage. After all I like slutty girls. But I definitely wont take seriously a girl who dresses with her boobs hanging out. Okay. I'm not being evasive I just don't know what you're talking about. I've never seen normal day/night wear that look like bikinis if that's what you're trying to say.
refurb Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 Oh, made this mistake for many years, politely avoiding talking to chests. The men who did got the tit-f*ck. LOL You might also wish to comment on them, flirtatiously. Remember, women are sexual beings too. She might comment on your ass or your 'parts'. Maybe give them a squeeze, like the Charmin. Pretty normal stuff. Loosen up Once again, the guys on this site need to listen to Carhill's wisdom. I was the same way, I used to think "don't be sexual" around women I liked. Wrong. You can let a woman know she is sexy in a respectful manner. If she likes you, she'll appreciate it. If she doesn't, oh well!! RF
carhill Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 The really bad thing is, I still catch myself in those old habits! Or worse, treating them like an anatomy class! Girlfriend with a penis stuff! Like my exW used to say, sometimes I just need to turn off that brain and F*CK!
Negative Nancy Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 (edited) Once again, the guys on this site need to listen to Carhill's wisdom. I was the same way, I used to think "don't be sexual" around women I liked. Wrong. You can let a woman know she is sexy in a respectful manner. If she likes you, she'll appreciate it. If she doesn't, oh well!! exactly. it all boils down to my favorite saying, "with the right person you can't do anything wrong, and with the wrong one you can't do anything right". lusting stares from a guy that i'm attracted to will turn me on. a guy displaying the same behavior that i don't care about makes me think "creep". that doesn't mean acting out unfiltered on all your impulses, but i am convinced that being yourself and having an easy relationship is possible with the matching person. it will just flow and you won't need any textbook stragegies. love wasn't meant to be hard. Edited December 5, 2010 by Negative Nancy
dispatch3d Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 I really like boobs so I'm not fully getting the problem. I guess I'd prefer she was naked, rather than have to be confined to so much clothes. So that seems like what I would tell her if she somehow accused me of something. I like boobs!
hydorclops Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 exactly. it all boils down to my favorite saying, "with the right person you can't do anything wrong, and with the wrong one you can't do anything right". lusting stares from a guy that i'm attracted to will turn me on. a guy displaying the same behavior that i don't care about makes me think "creep".This is what makes it seem impossible to some men. She is trying to be good-looking. She wants men to notice her. But she does not want me to notice her. Some of us really have internalized the fears women have. Men can overpower. Men can injure. Men can rape. So based on that, why would I ever risk being seen as a creep.
carhill Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 In the scheme of life, does her thinking, or even telling people you're a creep really matter? Part of being a successful man is focusing on *your* path and disregarding others. Does that sound harsh? Absolutely. The world is a harsh place. Brutal. You can't please everyone so you've got to please yourself. I think that was a song.
hydorclops Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 In the scheme of life, does her thinking, or even telling people you're a creep really matter? Part of being a successful man is focusing on *your* path and disregarding others. Does that sound harsh? Absolutely. The world is a harsh place. Brutal. You can't please everyone so you've got to please yourself. I think that was a song. I can't see an upside to being a creep. It's also a brutal irony when you hope for acceptance or a connection to instead create repulsion.
carhill Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 You're giving her way to much credit and power. I'm sure there are plenty of people who've faced me in court who thought I was a creep for suing them for not paying me. They're *entitled to their perspective*. That doesn't mean it's binding upon me, or you. If you lust openly, and some people consider that creepy, they do. Accept it. It doesn't define who you are.
sally4sara Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Damn, I still cant believe someone really just compared muscly arms and boobs! LOL Get yourself a penis and we will talk. To women, muscly arms are attractive in the same way boobs are to men. You like boobs for being a decidedly feminine difference from your own body. Women like the manly arms for the same reason. A standard shirt showcases neither cleavage or muscly upper arms so anyone choosing a shirt that bares the attributes of their gender is doing so for the appeal it might have on the opposite gender. So I agree that neither gender would be baring their wares for a reason other than advertising. I know I chose tops like that for "showcasing" so I too don't buy it when a woman acts astounded when men notice. But you rarely see women drooling and flipping out when a random guy wears a sleeveless shirt despite how good he may look in it outside of a male revue or body building competition. So when men do that to women anywhere other than at a titty bar or wet tshirt contest, it is obnoxious. So you noticed my boobs - good for you, now calm the eff now and act like a grown up. When I wore a top like that on a date and the date seemed distracted, I found that cute. I wanted him to notice. But the guy at the table I have to walk by to get to the restroom needs to shut the eff up. A guy who acts out over the cleavage of a woman he doesn't know in a public place has always put me in the mind of this 13 year old boy who came racing out of the snack shop I walked on a chilly evening to holler "TEE AACH OOOH" at me. Immature.
hydorclops Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 A better analogy for cleavage would be a large decorative codpiece. It would distract, invite attention, and be difficult to ignore. But don't be immature by looking.
Ruby Slippers Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 I love dating women with nice bodies especialy when they are willing to show it off. I will always take a respectful look at a womans body who is on a date with me. Nothing rude about asking your date to give you a spin so you can check out her back side. Also a great time to look down her shirt is when you are seating her at the table. Also I fully believe in taking a quick glance at the cleavage and letting her catch you looking. its flirty to have her catch you looking at her body. Nothing rude about it unless you rudely stare or make some pervy joke or comment. The voice of reason. No matter what I'm wearing, if my date doesn't check me out at some point, that's not a good sign. I definitely check him out. If he's wearing something that highlights his buff arms, the package, whatever, you bet your butt I'm looking as much as I want.
hydorclops Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 Ruby Slippers: The voice of reason. No matter what I'm wearing, if my date doesn't check me out at some point, that's not a good sign. I definitely check him out. If he's wearing something that highlights his buff arms, the package, whatever, you bet your butt I'm looking as much as I want. You and Green are encouraging all us dumpy mutts to behave as if we have the same privileges as men that are tall, handsome, well dressed, confident, and have good jobs. Are you sure you want to do that?
carhill Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 The upside is I know plenty of such men my age whose dicks don't work anymore, so being a dumpy mutt with a working dick can have its advantages.
Ruby Slippers Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 You and Green are encouraging all us dumpy mutts to behave as if we have the same privileges as men that are tall, handsome, well dressed, confident, and have good jobs. Are you sure you want to do that? What a question. Do you really have such a low opinion of yourself? Then how can you expect anyone else to have a better one? People only know what you tell them. Act like you're a "dumpy mutt" and people will believe you. If I'm on a date with a guy, I'd be surprised and put off if there were not at least a little mutual checking out -- no matter who he was.
carhill Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 I do have a boundary of 'checking out' only my date, not other women who happen by, no matter how provocatively dressed. Of course, I was like that when married too. Wait, I'm divorced now; was that such a good idea?
hydorclops Posted December 5, 2010 Posted December 5, 2010 Really though, even in the context of a good sexual relationship, given a lustful look from the man, the woman will be turned on, indifferent, annoyed , or angry, depending on what's going on in her mind at the moment. It requires telepathy. Admit it.
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