Pencil Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 This is something I struggle with and wonder in relationships sometimes and when I hear about how sometimes the dating arena and relationships brings out the worst in people. I mean, I know some really nice, decent people, both straight, gay, female, male, all types, but with a certain goodness and decency about them which they all have in common and I hear through them about some of the mean things that ex-bfs , gfs, potential bfs or gfs do to them and I always hear things like "What comes around goes around", or 'Don't worry it will catch up to them some day" and I just don't ever see it happening. So I'm wondering, is karma for real or is it just something we say to ourselves when we're hurt? Have any of you ever seen it catch up to someone? I'd be curious to hear your stories. It just seems wrong when good people get hurt and the wrongdoers get away with it all and somehow do better. What do you think?
hydorclops Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 My vote: Bad people get away with all kinds of bad things all day long. The universe is not keeping score.
loverofloveandstuff Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 IMO, people who wrong others have to live with the guilt knowing it and that's the way they 'pay' for what they have done. I guess that's not applicable if the person doesn't have a conscience though.
thatsonlyme Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 I don't really believe in karma but bad things happen and then everybody is like "it's karma". The truth is, we feel good when something bad happens to people who hurt us. My exes new boyfriend ended up in jail and I won't lie, it brought a smile on my face.
Titania22 Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 IMO Karma is real, but small minded perspective isn't going to see how it plays out. It's not us that decides, 'that person hurt me in this way, and now someone has to hurt them in the same way'. Therefore it is harder to see it playing out in someone elses life. If you expand your perceptions, you can see it play out in your own life. It isn't something small though, there is a much bigger picture. Rather then consider karma, how about considering the bigger picture. The good and bad things that happen to us shape who we become. Sometimes bad things happen to stop us getting too egotistical, or so we can be compassionate to others who face similar circumstances. It isn't about retribution.
utterer of lies Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 IMO Karma is real, but small minded perspective isn't going to see how it plays out. I think it's exactly the opposite. Karma does not actually exist, but the human mind is amazing at seeing and making connections, so many events will seem linked by karma.
Titania22 Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 I think it's exactly the opposite. Karma does not actually exist, but the human mind is amazing at seeing and making connections, so many events will seem linked by karma. I see where you're coming from. It's a paradox. Both interpretations could be true, or neither. I have had similar discussions at my philosophy group. Fascinating and unsolvable.
utterer of lies Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 I see where you're coming from. It's a paradox. Both interpretations could be true, or neither. I have had similar discussions at my philosophy group. Fascinating and unsolvable. Unsolveable in general, but there's a solution for each individual, since the mind shapes the perception and therefore the experienced reality of the universe.
In The Green Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 Karma is not resolved all within one lifetime. This is not the appropriate place to talk about karma though. Its like asking blind people what they think about the sun, they can only feel its heat and are aware of little else. It is not for us to judge others and how their karma is dispensed. Try to be gentle & compassionate when judging yourself and others. Most of the hurts of the world are not caused by outright malice but rather weakness and fear.
threebyfate Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 Karma isn't real. "Bad" or "good" are both highly subjective. While wanting bad things to happen to people who hurt you is human, the best place to be is indifference since holding onto resentment only hurts YOU.
jimbo Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 It is about as real as The End of Days. Many people are just selfish nowadays. So, if you are a good person who cares about others, you need to change the way you are thinking and only think about yourself. It is a work in progress for me.
tb24 Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 There's no such thing as karma. It falls under the category of "Irrational nonsense". However, are people who treat others like s**t really happy? Do you think they'll end up with someone who loves them or will they just keep on bouncing between relationships? If you want to label that "karma", i suppose you could but implying that there is some nonsensical mystic force at work is just silly.
FearandLoathing Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 I don't believe that karma exists. Our brains make incredible connections for just about anything we want them too. If you're resentful toward an ex who you feel treated you poorly, and you hear that something bad happened to them then your brain will form a connection: "Hah! That's what he gets for treating me like ****!". Life has ups and downs, whether you're a good person or a not-so-good person.
fishtaco Posted November 27, 2010 Posted November 27, 2010 Nope, there's no karma. I believe, usually people that behave poorly are because of their inability to deal with their inner demons. Maybe they're projecting their internal misery at the people around them. Maybe they're desperately trying to fill their own inner void that they have no regard for others. So it's right that "they'll get what's coming to them". One day their house of cards will collapse on them, and no one in the world will be able to save them. But that's not karma. Their future is already fixed, however on the way there, as a side effect, they'll cause damage to everyone around them. As far as guilt, some people are born without them. They're referred to as psychopaths. They do not have the capability to feel empathy, which is a necessary ingredient in order to feel guilt or have a conscience. The dumb ones tend to become criminals, the smart ones tend be very successful -- no ethics or morals to hold them back.
daphne Posted November 27, 2010 Posted November 27, 2010 I don't know if karma is real. But I do believe that if your actions are consistently negative or positive, you tend to get back more of the same. For example, someone who robs banks or deals drugs is probably not going to reap the same benefits in life as someone who chooses a more positive and legal path in life. If you walk in dangerous circles, you are liable to get hurt. If you walk a path of using and abusing people, you have few people who want to associate with you that are decent. If you rarely make it to work on time, you'll probably get fired. What you put in the bank, you tend to get back out of it. Crap in, crap out. Do I think all of the exes that have hurt my feelings once or twice are going to end up on skid row because of it? No. I don't even wish it anymore. I have had a couple that were downright awful that did a lot of awful things (not just to me) so their lives are mired with negativity, and they are having difficult lives at this point. But their actions were consistently negative and abusive. If you're hurting from something like this, just be ok with the fact that you can look at yourself in the mirror and that you're better off without being around someone that could negatively impact you. Stay away from people that can bring you down.
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