loverofloveandstuff Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 MOST MEN cannot tell a natural-looking-lacquered face from a truly natural face. Yeah, that's exactly what I was trying to say.
musemaj11 Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 (edited) Okay, but most guys here, and IRL are always talking about how they like girls who are 'natural', and don't wear makeup. Guys like attractive women. PERIOD. However, we are not stupid and we know that a lot of women look 'very different' once the mask is off. So we or at least I personally prefer a girl who looks decent with little or no makeup than a girl who looks hot with tons of makeup but looks horrendous once its all off. I mean when we get serious, I dont want to her to be wearing all those makeup even at home. I'm not someone who wears a lot of makeup, so it doesn't matter to me either way, but can I ask why you feel this way? If everytime you see her, she looks amazing, why does it matter to you if it's from makeup or her bare skin? I'm honestly curious. Look above. Edited November 26, 2010 by musemaj11
kiss_andmakeup Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 OP, I wasn't insinuating that you should go to such extremes as your friend. I was just suggesting that there's some middle ground between "make up, hair extensions, spray tan, false eyelashes" and "just mascara." I definitely don't think you should change who you are just to attract attention. Unfortunately though physical attraction is integral to "get the fire started" so to speak. You just want to make sure your own natural features shine; not turn them into something else.
Star Gazer Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 OP, I wasn't insinuating that you should go to such extremes as your friend. I was just suggesting that there's some middle ground between "make up, hair extensions, spray tan, false eyelashes" and "just mascara." I definitely don't think you should change who you are just to attract attention. Unfortunately though physical attraction is integral to "get the fire started" so to speak. You just want to make sure your own natural features shine; not turn them into something else. Agreed. I guess you could say I wear makeup everyday, because I wear tinted SPF moisturizer. It's honestly the best stuff ever.
kiss_andmakeup Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 Agreed. I guess you could say I wear makeup everyday, because I wear tinted SPF moisturizer. It's honestly the best stuff ever. Yes, tinted moisturizer is great. For everyday type wear all any girl should need is tinted moisturizer and mascara. For evening it's okay to get a bit glammed up I think, especially if you are going to a dimly lit bar or club, and with the intention of talking to/attracting guys. OP I think it's sad that your friend is in a relationship and she still feels the need to go to such extremes. If her boyfriend truly hasn't seen her in her natural state, that's too bad for her. It must be sad to be so insecure that you worry your partner won't love you for who you really are.
musemaj11 Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 OP I think it's sad that your friend is in a relationship and she still feels the need to go to such extremes. If her boyfriend truly hasn't seen her in her natural state, that's too bad for her. It must be sad to be so insecure that you worry your partner won't love you for who you really are. Yup, thats exactly my point. Wearing little makeup is for the most part for the good of a woman herself. The deeper you try to hide your real self, the more afraid you are to show it and your self-esteem is going to get lower and lower.
loverofloveandstuff Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 Yup, thats exactly my point. Wearing little makeup is for the most part for the good of a woman herself. The deeper you try to hide your real self, the more afraid you are to show it and your self-esteem is going to get lower and lower. Your self-esteem is probably going to get lower and lower if you are not getting any attention from men too.
Author angielove Posted November 26, 2010 Author Posted November 26, 2010 No offense was taken, so no worries babe! I don't have low self esteem and I'm not upset about the situation. I'm more frustrated because (as conceited as this sounds) I am quite pretty without make-up but guys don't seem to notice when I'm next to my friend or anyone else who wears all that stuff. If anything my self-esteem is too high, and I'm just pissed that I'm not getting more attention lol! I really DO want a guy who thinks I'm beautiful without make-up and prefers me that way, so I'll stick it out! I don't think I'll find him at a bar though... maybe at a nature reserve or something like that
Kamille Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 I also used to get frustrated at the fact that a friend of mine seemed to draw all the attention when we were out together. Now, don't get me wrong: my friend doesn't look fake. She would never leave the house without make-up, but it doesn't sound like it's to the level of OP's friend. I can also admit she is naturally more beautiful than I am. Anyway, I eventually realized that the biggest difference between she and I was that we projected different aura. She had "approachability" down. She would always sit at a spot where she was easy to approach, she would look around the room looking for cute guys, she would wear a smile on her face. She was engaging. Her attitude made it clear to guys that she was there to meet people. Meanwhile, I would sit in a corner and only pay attention to the people at my table. When I was last single, I forced myself to change my habits a little and lo and behold, guys started approaching me. So, I wonder angielove, could the discrepancy be in part attributable to factors other than pure focus on extremely made-up and natural looks? Are you both equally as approachable when out in public?
Kamille Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 On an unrelated slightly off-topic note, I once wore fake lashes and a wig to a costume party and couldn't believe how hot I looked. Yes, guys approached me more, but I think it had something to do with my own confidence level being through the roof. I'm thinking of fake-lashing it this Christmas season.
Author angielove Posted November 26, 2010 Author Posted November 26, 2010 (edited) I get what you mean... I can't judge it that objectively but I think we are both equally approachable. Guys (who I'm not interested in at all) constantly hit on me at work and I complain to my manager about it. He says it's my fault for smiling at them and engaging with them lol! So I guess that means I'm approachable But I must admit, my friend is much sweeter to people - she has a higher tolerance for bull**** than I do! And to get on your slightly unrelated topic... I was so tempted to buy some fake eyelashes the other day! I would like to try them out. Sometimes I see them stuck to the toilet walls at clubs and they look like spiders or creepy black caterpillars - scares the crap out of me lol. Edited November 26, 2010 by angielove
musemaj11 Posted November 27, 2010 Posted November 27, 2010 (edited) Your self-esteem is probably going to get lower and lower if you are not getting any attention from men too. At least this way you dont have to waste too much money and time and you dont feel pressured to present your other self to people everytime you meet them. Im not saying you shouldnt take care of yourself. Im just saying dont go overboard because you are simply going to hurt yourself in the end. I really DO want a guy who thinks I'm beautiful without make-up and prefers me that way, so I'll stick it out! I don't think I'll find him at a bar though... maybe at a nature reserve or something like that At bars or nightclubs you need to be fake because EVERYONE IS FAKE!!! LOL Edited November 27, 2010 by musemaj11
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