O'Malley Posted November 24, 2010 Posted November 24, 2010 Uhh...you want to "win over a party girl" but got all miffed by how "drunk" she was? are you really not seeing the problem here? If you just want casual sex, as you've stated in your other (numerous) threads, and you want it with a party girl, chances are she's probably gonna be drunk if/when it happens. And yeah, it'll be drunken, sloppy hook-up sex. Someone who ends a date early to hang out with her friends and doesn't attempt to spend time alone with you isn't very interested. The fact that she asked you along means you're getting a basic invite to be another guy pal/admirer who she'll occasionally flirt with while she's showing off.
Mad Max Posted November 24, 2010 Posted November 24, 2010 Party girls are not worth your time. IME, they also don't make the best of wives.
true2010 Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 Why WOULDN'T you want a party girl? Party girls are fun, outgoing, attractive. What's NOT to like? As long as you're not a jealous person and enjoy a lil drama every now and then you could probably handle it. Your fuzzy turtlenecks will guide you! Personally I would find it a turn-off. Taking it to an extreme - "Who wouldn't want to date a stripper? They're fun, outgoing, and attractive!"
Tim The Enchanter Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 I agree with you though I don't want to sleep with or kiss DRUNK people but I don't go to night clubs looking to hook up. And any one I had given the label of PARTY GIRL too would not be on my radar as some one I wanted to persue romanticly. If you read his other threads, he's not after romance at all. He just wants casual sex. In which case, drunk girls are a perfect match.
BS76 Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 Party girls turn me off. Really a drunken hook up is the best you can hope for and since you were to honorable for that route don't expect to magicaly change her into a sober one on one dateable person. This. Hit it and quit it. Girls like that are just looking for guys to be their next turn on the carousel and end up 35 and lonely wondering where all the good men are. And you've also got to watch when girls invite you along into their world, because as you found out now you're competing for her attention. Don't do that. Instead invite her out when the tables are turned so you've got friends and are the authority over her reality at that moment in time.
D-Jam Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 The only people I see who win party girls are playas, bad boys, and hot wealthy guys who have a streak of narcissism in them. To me this topic is like the girls who wonder how they can win the heart of a playa. When I had been dumped by a more conservative girlfriend long ago, I decided that I wanted a woman who didn't have a strict family, didn't believe in abstinence, and had no hangups on dating. I suddenly turned an eye to the club chicks I knew. Big mistake. ALL of them are flaky, and they want guys they will never get, and you or I will never be. Not unless you hit the gym and get a ripped body, drive a porche, live in a million dollar condo, and buy bottles of Grey Goose as if they were beers. These girls are attracted to excitement. They want an exciting boyfriend who lives a life of luxury. They want to be the girl who gets taken off on impulse for a weekend in the tropics, or Vegas. They want a guy who is drop-dead hot and can bang her like a male pornstar. Is it any wonder why most of them continually get played? I'll tell you this...unless you're one of those "high alpha" makes they crave, move on. I'd even tell the "high alphas" to move on as well, because the few guys I've seen who get these girls end up with nothing but drama. These girls are overgrown kids...and you need to find a WOMAN...not a girl.
Sivok Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 Personally I would find it a turn-off. Taking it to an extreme - "Who wouldn't want to date a stripper? They're fun, outgoing, and attractive!"Hahaha, biggest mistake of my life.
northern_sky Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 To get party girls you need to be outgoing, fun, good looking, interesting, charming, have money, aloof, be able to offer them something(skip the line at a club, free drinks at a bar), or be throwing the party yourself. A combination of any 3 of these should would work(there are other traits too), but judging from your posts you don't have a single one of these characteristics. I think you should stop trying so hard, and let a girl who likes your for you, come to you. .............. Unfortunately, I have to agree.
northern_sky Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 The only people I see who win party girls are playas, bad boys, and hot wealthy guys who have a streak of narcissism in them. To me this topic is like the girls who wonder how they can win the heart of a playa. When I had been dumped by a more conservative girlfriend long ago, I decided that I wanted a woman who didn't have a strict family, didn't believe in abstinence, and had no hangups on dating. I suddenly turned an eye to the club chicks I knew. Big mistake. ALL of them are flaky, and they want guys they will never get, and you or I will never be. Not unless you hit the gym and get a ripped body, drive a porche, live in a million dollar condo, and buy bottles of Grey Goose as if they were beers. These girls are attracted to excitement. They want an exciting boyfriend who lives a life of luxury. They want to be the girl who gets taken off on impulse for a weekend in the tropics, or Vegas. They want a guy who is drop-dead hot and can bang her like a male pornstar. Is it any wonder why most of them continually get played? I'll tell you this...unless you're one of those "high alpha" makes they crave, move on. I'd even tell the "high alphas" to move on as well, because the few guys I've seen who get these girls end up with nothing but drama. These girls are overgrown kids...and you need to find a WOMAN...not a girl. I agree. I don't think the OP has a snowflake's chance in hell of winning this girl over. He is clearly not an alpha. Party girls want guys who are unavailable in some way and/or out of their league. They love the chase. They are typically commitment phobes who will go through a million guys and cheat left and right. This girl is going to chew him up and spit him out. The fact that he's into this type also suggests to me that he is immature and has low self esteem.
Woggle Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 The only people I see who win party girls are playas, bad boys, and hot wealthy guys who have a streak of narcissism in them. To me this topic is like the girls who wonder how they can win the heart of a playa. When I had been dumped by a more conservative girlfriend long ago, I decided that I wanted a woman who didn't have a strict family, didn't believe in abstinence, and had no hangups on dating. I suddenly turned an eye to the club chicks I knew. Big mistake. ALL of them are flaky, and they want guys they will never get, and you or I will never be. Not unless you hit the gym and get a ripped body, drive a porche, live in a million dollar condo, and buy bottles of Grey Goose as if they were beers. These girls are attracted to excitement. They want an exciting boyfriend who lives a life of luxury. They want to be the girl who gets taken off on impulse for a weekend in the tropics, or Vegas. They want a guy who is drop-dead hot and can bang her like a male pornstar. Is it any wonder why most of them continually get played? I'll tell you this...unless you're one of those "high alpha" makes they crave, move on. I'd even tell the "high alphas" to move on as well, because the few guys I've seen who get these girls end up with nothing but drama. These girls are overgrown kids...and you need to find a WOMAN...not a girl. I very much agree. These types can be fun if a man knows what he is getting into and treats it as such but never try to fall in love with one of them.
FryFish Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 You dont want a party girl for a girlfriend... They are party girls because they need way more attention than one person can possibly give them in order for them to not feel completely worthless. No girl like the one you are describing has ever turned away the kiss of a a stranger who is even remotely attractive. Dont be stupid man. Girls like the one you are chasing are keeping your dick wet inbetween REAL relationships. Use her for the purpose she chooses to be used... and dont get her pregnant.
Author U1987 Posted November 26, 2010 Author Posted November 26, 2010 Go to prison for kissing her? Good argument. Your profile on the left says you're from Europe. I don't think you know what absurdly puritanical and draconian sex laws we have in the United States. Making out with a drunk girl can be prosecuted as sexual assault, and having sex with a drunk girl can be prosecuted as rape. It's stupid and it rarely happens, but it can and does happen on occasion.
Author U1987 Posted November 26, 2010 Author Posted November 26, 2010 Uhh...you want to "win over a party girl" but got all miffed by how "drunk" she was? are you really not seeing the problem here? If you just want casual sex, as you've stated in your other (numerous) threads, and you want it with a party girl, chances are she's probably gonna be drunk if/when it happens. And yeah, it'll be drunken, sloppy hook-up sex. You or other girls wouldn't have a problem with this? Because whenever I think about it, I remember freshmen orientation, and the woman up on stage saying "Don't have sex with someone who's drunk! It's rape and you can go to jail!" How often does drunk hooking up happen and it turns out alright in the end?
Author U1987 Posted November 26, 2010 Author Posted November 26, 2010 You guys gave good responses to his "keeping guys off her" comment. 1) he probably hasn't done anything to get her interested like a) ask her out b) Kiss her.... 2) You can only help a girl out with guys who are ANOYING HER not with guys she seems cool with talking too and you are afraid will steal her away..... but I'd risk looking needy and cock block another guy if I liked a girl because in a lame way if you were to afraid to ask a girl out your cock blocking may show ur feelings for her....but ask her out and kiss her Did you even read the first 5 sentences? I DID ASK HER OUT! The first time, she cut her head moving furniture so she had to cancel. I asked her out again for 2 nights ago but she abruptly told me she had to cut it short to go to the club with her friends! I DID ASK HER OUT! But like I said, how was I supposed to kiss her when she's sloppy drunk and going back and forth talking and dancing with me, her girlfriends and other guys? Grabbed and dragged her out the club?
Author U1987 Posted November 26, 2010 Author Posted November 26, 2010 Party girls are not worth your time. IME, they also don't make the best of wives. What on earth makes you think I'm even remotely interested in getting married? Why would you post that?
kiss_andmakeup Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 (edited) You or other girls wouldn't have a problem with this? Because whenever I think about it, I remember freshmen orientation, and the woman up on stage saying "Don't have sex with someone who's drunk! It's rape and you can go to jail!" How often does drunk hooking up happen and it turns out alright in the end? Would I be okay with it? I don't even understand how that question makes sense, since you are talking about party girls, one of whom I deinitely am not. would I be okay with it if I went to a club, got drunk, danced with a guy, and made the poor judgement to sleep with him? Well since I don't put myself in those situations on a regular basis I really can't say, but if perchance I wasn't "okay" with it, I'd have my own conscience to grapple with, not the guy's. I am an adult and hold myself responsible for my actions, whether I'm sober or not. If someone gets pulled over for drunk driving, they are in trouble because they made the decision to get behind the wheel. It doesn't matter that they were drunk and therfore "lacking judgement." If I make the poor judgement to sleep with a guy due to drunkenness, I would hold myself accountable for the decision to sleep with him. Party girls go out, get hammered, and sleep with guys. In that order. If you're not cofortable banging drunk chicks, then party girls are not for you. Regardless of what the woman at your freshman orientation said (I'm sure at freshman orientation they also tell the kids not to drink underage as that most certainly IS illegal...how many people end up abiding by that?). Edited November 26, 2010 by kiss_andmakeup
kiss_andmakeup Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 Also, a girl who habitually gets sloshed and hooks up with guys is probably not likely to single one of them out and say "he raped me because I was too drunk to give proper consent!" If by chance you do sleep with this girl, she wil probably be drunk when it happens, and you will just be one of many. Not so glamourous, eh?
Author U1987 Posted November 26, 2010 Author Posted November 26, 2010 Would I be okay with it? I don't even understand how that question makes sense, since you are talking about party girls, one of whom I deinitely am not. would I be okay with it if I went to a club, got drunk, danced with a guy, and made the poor judgement to sleep with him? Well since I don't put myself in those situations on a regular basis I really can't say, but if perchance I wasn't "okay" with it, I'd have my own conscience to grapple with, not the guy's. I am an adult and hold myself responsible for my actions, whether I'm sober or not. If someone gets pulled over for drunk driving, they are in trouble because they made the decision to get behind the wheel. It doesn't matter that they were drunk and therfore "lacking judgement." If I make the poor judgement to sleep with a guy due to drunkenness, I would hold myself accountable for the decision to sleep with him. Party girls go out, get hammered, and sleep with guys. In that order. If you're not cofortable banging drunk chicks, then party girls are not for you. Regardless of what the woman at your freshman orientation said (I'm sure at freshman orientation they also tell the kids not to drink underage as that most certainly IS illegal...how many people end up abiding by that?). So what should I do? She invited me to go clubbing with her and her friends Friday night. I have work late so I can't, but since she invited me again, I'm sure she'll invite me out again during the week. Should I take up that offer and make a move once we're close again? Or should I INSIST on a one-on-one date on my turf on my terms? If we do go out to the club, like I said, how do I keep other guys off her?
loverofloveandstuff Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 What on earth makes you think I'm even remotely interested in getting married? Why would you post that? hahahaha, I loled literally at this. For the record, what IS a party girl?? Green - you said party girls 'turn you off.' Your current girlfriend has probably had a night out when she got drunk and a bit sloppy. Maybe she hasn't, but most girls have - whether it's their own 21st or a Friday night once in awhile. It doesn't make them bad people or even easy. It also doesn't mean they act like that all the time. OPer - I wouldn't be asking how to get a 'party girl', I would be asking how to get this specific girl. IMO you should've kissed her, she was seeking attention elsewhere because you weren't giving her enough. That has nothing to do with being a 'party girl', that's just how many girls behave. They want to feel assured other men want them and they want to prove that to you when you're showing lack of interest.
loverofloveandstuff Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 So what should I do? She invited me to go clubbing with her and her friends Friday night. I have work late so I can't, but since she invited me again, I'm sure she'll invite me out again during the week. Should I take up that offer and make a move once we're close again? Or should I INSIST on a one-on-one date on my turf on my terms? If we do go out to the club, like I said, how do I keep other guys off her? Usually if you hold her hand and act close to her MOST guys won't bother her. It might be a bit early for this but I was seeing a guy and we were out, another guy was hitting on me and the guy I was with stepped in and said 'mate, could you back off. She's my girl.' It was sweet and assertive.
kiss_andmakeup Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 So what should I do? She invited me to go clubbing with her and her friends Friday night. I have work late so I can't, but since she invited me again, I'm sure she'll invite me out again during the week. Should I take up that offer and make a move once we're close again? Or should I INSIST on a one-on-one date on my turf on my terms? If we do go out to the club, like I said, how do I keep other guys off her? Only go to the club if you've resolved within yourself that you're okay with sleeping with her while she's drunk. As for keeping other guys off of her, you can't. Just have to dance with her, have a good time, and wait for an opportunity to kiss/make out with her. Maybe she'll decide to sleep with you. Maybe she won't. But she DEFINITELY won't if you don't show some physical interest (and in this case dancing/grinding isn't enough...it probably has to go to the make - out level) during the night.
Green Posted November 27, 2010 Posted November 27, 2010 This "party Girl" will be "drunk" again so if you don't want to worry about "rape" you should go after a less "Party" type girl. Fact is she may drink and party a lot because she was raped or some other thing she is running away from... maybe just imature. Sleeping with a girl who has been drinking doesn't automotacily equal rape... you need to use your common sense. You could get accused of rape for having sex with a sober girl if you have no common sense. I mean if a girl looks upset or out of it might not be the best time to have sex with her even if she is suposedly completly sober. Look take my advice and realize that if "rape" is something you are even worrying about THEN THIS IS NOT THE GIRL FOR YOU. She WILL ALWAYS BE DRUNK... MEETING GUYS DRUNK is the way she likes it. Out for drinks is her idea of a good time
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