GivenUp0083 Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Oh man, this literally just happened and it is hilarioius!! So I took myself out of the dating game a couple months ago, but there was a girl a little younger than me who had emailed right before I cancelled it. Well she had flaked out on me a couple times when I tried to make plans to meet, but we still texted and talked on the phone over the course of a month, maybe like once a week. I realized I was never going to meet this girl and she had just led me on so I decided to try something new and just call her out on it via text: Me: "what's up flake?" Her: "why am I a flake?" Me: "because we would make plans to meet and you flaked out...everytime" 10 min later Me: "I don't really care anymore, just sayin don't email a dude if you're just gonna flake. It's immature. Lose my number." Her: "Well I can see you're irritated, I just tried calling and you ignored me so who's immature now?" (I didn't get her first call, but she called a second time). We talked for about 20 min, I basically just called her out, referred to her by the name "flake" and teased her about it. I didn't act all mad, I basically hadn't cared anymore at that point and figured I'd just have fun with this. Well she rants on about how she quit dating and all the guys she meets call/text her too much and how she's really picky about guys. I joke with her and say well I guess I'm not up to your standards and I call too much, I'll make note not to call you anymore. She's like no, no, we should meet up, how's thursday for you? I'm like sure whatever, we can meet up at a bar near your college when you get out of class, and she's like ok, I'll figure out which bar and let you know tomorrow, give you a call then. I said, alright, later. Basically she probably will flake again, but I'm just gonna be chill and go with it. She looked pretty cute in her pictures and she seems like she actually has some personality, but I'm doing this for entertainment. I'll be damned if I make any kind of emotional investment or get my hopes up or start liking a girl that has major flake tendencies and red flags (like I'm too picky and guys I meet are too clingy). So we'll see what happens. Just wanted to share the moral of the story and show why being a dick and actling like you don't care scores you major points, whether the women will admit it or not.
Mad Max Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Acting aloof and simply being a dick are completely different. Being a dick will only get you low quality women.
kdark Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 What you call being a dick, I call standing up for yourself and calling people out on their BS. Women dig guys with a backbone, not *******s.
Mad Max Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 What you call being a dick, I call standing up for yourself and calling people out on their BS. Women dig guys with a backbone, not *******s. No doubt OP called the girl out on her BS and rightfully so. Having a backbone is not a negative trait. I think he worded the thread poorly though.
xpaperxcutx Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Lol that's not being a dick. If a guy was being a dick, he would have just called her a b---- and completely ignored her.
Woggle Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 You called her out on her BS which is good but being like this will not attract a quality woman. Just brush her aside and move on.
Mutant Debutante Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 What you call being a dick, I call standing up for yourself and calling people out on their BS. Women dig guys with a backbone, not *******s. uh, yeah. What this guy said. If that's what the 'nice guys' think is a dick, that could explain a lot.
musemaj11 Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 This girl is not a quality girl. Being a dick DOES WORK! But it does only work on low quality girls.
kiss_andmakeup Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 What you call being a dick, I call standing up for yourself and calling people out on their BS. Women dig guys with a backbone, not *******s. this this this.
that girl Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Being a dick does work on drama queens and insecure girls. But a girl who is emotionally healthy and into you wouldn't be flaking in the first place and she wouldn't put up with your crap.
Author GivenUp0083 Posted November 17, 2010 Author Posted November 17, 2010 This girl is not a quality girl. Being a dick DOES WORK! But it does only work on low quality girls. You called her out on her BS which is good but being like this will not attract a quality woman. Just brush her aside and move on. They days where I cared about finding a decent woman and making her happy are long gone. I just wanna **** her.
SadandConfusedWA Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Eh, if you called me a flake I would never talk to you again. Poor girl
Fouts Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Being anything other than who you are will make you lose in the end. Sounds lame, but if you're a wimp, you're a wimp. Trying to be a tough guy who doesn't care over the internet or phone may work at first, but eventually they'll see you're a wimp and leave. There are women out there who like wimpy, non-assertive guys. Women who like to be in control. It's the minority by far, but those are the types of women those men need to seek. The submissive, feminine one's want strong, dominant men and will always drift to that type and leave the wimpier one's behind. That's the majority of the world, right there.
musemaj11 Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Being anything other than who you are will make you lose in the end. Sounds lame, but if you're a wimp, you're a wimp. Trying to be a tough guy who doesn't care over the internet or phone may work at first, but eventually they'll see you're a wimp and leave. There are women out there who like wimpy, non-assertive guys. Women who like to be in control. It's the minority by far, but those are the types of women those men need to seek. The submissive, feminine one's want strong, dominant men and will always drift to that type and leave the wimpier one's behind. That's the majority of the world, right there. Well, not being yourself is alright when you are still young and just wanna have fun. But when it comes to having a serious relationship, you want someone who is attracted to you the way you are.
Woggle Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 They days where I cared about finding a decent woman and making her happy are long gone. I just wanna **** her. Every man goes through a stage like this when he is starting to grow some balls. I hope one day you find a good middle ground.
runner Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 What you call being a dick, I call standing up for yourself and calling people out on their BS. Women dig guys with a backbone, not *******s. quoted for emphasis
OceanGirl Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 If I am "flaking" on a guy it is because I am on the fence about him at best. If he becomes aggressive and starts calling me out or being angry in any way, it's a HUGE turn off and puts me firmly on the side of the "not interested" fence. I can guarantee you that this girl is not going to suddenly start liking you because "you called her out". She is probably bored/mildly amused and this is all in your head.
Andy_K Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Unless your sole objective is getting lots of attention, I fail to see how getting a date with a girl you know to be a flake can be considered a 'success'. If, on he other hand, it was attracting high quality women it would be a bit different. But if a girl is genuinely high quality, she's not going to flake on you in the first place, so you'll never get to call her out on it...
Yvelysse Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 Oh man, this literally just happened and it is hilarious!! Just wanted to share the moral of the story and show why being a dick and actling like you don't care scores you major points, whether the women will admit it or not. LOL but true. I wonder if the vise is versa? If so let me know, I have a guy that if I get a bitch attitude might toe the line. I have been to nice and caring to try it 0.0 She will more than likely show up now that you have made it a point to "prove" herself to you. But she even sounds wishy-washy to me! BTW even I would show up JUST to prove you wrong. It's part of my nature.
sally4sara Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 The flaking is usually a sign of a few things She's rude You're not a priority AND she's rude She is stupid busy, doesn't know how to manage her schedule, and she's rude. So really, she is rude. I get that someone pissed you off and you're now looking to take it out on any female you make contact with. If you're going to only take it out on rude folks - well, its better than turning nicer people into rude bitter people. This ones already halfway there so..... Other than the nut, what do you hope to get out of that?
dispatch3d Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 humm what I've learned so far in this thread: (1) Women get offended if you say they like "dickheads" (2) Assertively calling someone out on bad behaviour works (3) The right attitude is more important than anything else (4) Noone has pinned down anything more solid than the above so far (including me!) I like the entertainment part of this the best. Why would he care if she's a bad person, mean, whatever? He's getting drunk at a bar regardless of whether she shows up or not, and if she doesn't who cares? She's a flake anyways.
Author GivenUp0083 Posted November 17, 2010 Author Posted November 17, 2010 She did admit why she flaked. Reasons sound bogus: I've been busy when you've asked, I didn't want to meet up with you and your friends, I did ask you to do that one thing but I cancelled because I didn't realize it was so early in the morning, I have quit dating recently (she did delete her profile). You guys don't seem to get it. I already KNOW that this girl isn't interested in me, otherwise she wouldn't have flaked. She probably is just showing up to prove me wrong. I don't care because of one reason: meeting her in person carries much better odds of me ****ing her at some point than if I had never met her. Calling her out and a flake was a low risk/high reward scenario, I had NOTHING to lose, so I did it. Now my chance of tapping that ass just doubled. Maybe odds are still small, but it's better than trying to bone a girl you've never met. She does sound rude and she's a bit pretentious, and I've been around the dating block enough to know that a relationship is NOT what I want, let alone with a girl like her. It'll just make it that much sweeter if/when I do get the best of her one night
dispatch3d Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 gah, don't spread hate . If calling her out works great. The one time I called a girl out she ended up showing up. Meh girls piss me off with this **** though.
NoLongerSad Posted November 17, 2010 Posted November 17, 2010 OP now that you've finally gotten her interest don't complain if she actually shows up at the bar and looks like a close relative of Moby Dick.
Author GivenUp0083 Posted November 17, 2010 Author Posted November 17, 2010 OP now that you've finally gotten her interest don't complain if she actually shows up at the bar and looks like a close relative of Moby Dick. I've done enough online dating to know what that's all about unfortunately. She had added me as a facebook friend a month back, I've seen enough pictures, and I'd say she's actually much better looking than many of the women in the online dating crowd. Which also makes me skeptical of her quality. The personalities of ATTRACTIVE women on online dating sites seem to be flawed. It make sense if you think about it....why would an attractive woman need to go online to find a date? Personality issues, too high of expectations, etc. There could be a number of things that are seriously wrong with her. I think it's safe to say I give average-looking women more credit in the early dating period, but it's not as well deserved as the average women tend to over-value themselves based on the overabundance of emails they get from guys on dating sites and misinterpret it.
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