Cheap Boyfriend, But Never Cheap Girlfriend?

[musemaj11]

We often hear women complaining about 'Cheap Boyfriends'.

 

But we almost never hear guys complaining about 'Cheap Girlfriends'.

 

Try google 'Cheap Boyfriend' and 'Cheap Girlfriend' and notice how hugely different the results are.

 

Its so funny, isnt it? :laugh:

[Els]

Meh, just the way of the world. Far more men complain about 'overweight women' than women about men, anyhow.

[musemaj11]

Meh, just the way of the world. Far more men complain about 'overweight women' than women about men, anyhow.

Lol, ya well I guess you are kind of right.

[somedude81]

We often hear women complaining about 'Cheap Boyfriends'.

 

But we almost never hear guys complaining about 'Cheap Girlfriends'.

 

Try google 'Cheap Boyfriend' and 'Cheap Girlfriend' and notice how hugely different the results are.

 

Its so funny, isnt it? :laugh:

That's because men and women want different things from their partners.

 

Women want attention and money to be spent on them.

 

Men want sex.

 

The female equivalent of a cheap boyfriend, is somebody who doesn't put out.

 

BTW, do you notice the elements of prostitution mixed in there?

[musemaj11]

That's because men and women want different things from their partners.

 

Women want attention and money to be spent on them.

 

Men want sex.

 

The female equivalent of a cheap boyfriend, is somebody who doesn't put out.

 

BTW, do you notice the elements of prostitution mixed in there?

I never understand why prostitution is illegal from logical point of view.

 

Prostitution is an element of nature. The concept of marriage came to be merely because male humans started to want to make sure that they were not investing their resources in someone else's children.

[AverageJoe]

Many women can be the cheapest creatures on earth.

[collegeguy_24]

Many women can be the cheapest creatures on earth.

 

Nothing is cheaper then a Sloth.

[sanskrit]

men provide, women supply.

 

Makes no sense at all, or rather the arrangement sounds no different from a "john" who provides money, and a whore, who supplies sex.

[sanskrit]

it does when you stop thinking of it as a business transaction; women invest far more in men.

 

Are you talking early dating? because if so I invest in my appearance, they invest in their appearance, and in addition I invest about $300-500 dollars a month to go out on first and second dates, which women don't.

 

So what exact type of "investment" are you talking about when you claim women invest more than men?

 

Our youth, our fertility, and we are very vulnerable.

 

Just how, exactly, do these streets not run both ways regardless of gender? Sounds like so much hoohaa to me.

 

Remember that women are more susceptible to catching a std.

 

Then don't have sex with men who don't provide a recent clean test, simple, and not a particularly daunting "investment" to make in one's health if it is felt to be an issue.

 

Men who are interested enough in us will respect us enough to accept how we function.

 

My dating and sex life got so much better once I started expecting the exact same thing from women. Women who are interested in men enough will respect us enough to accept how -we- function. Again, street runs two ways. And btw, I wasn't aware that all women, or all men for that matter, functioned in any particular way. "How we function" sounds kind of sexist. Surely you aren't generalizing entire genders...

 

Or are women some special, privileged creatures that need special treatment to function? I don't think so, or rather if they are, maybe they should stay home, be protected from the big bad world, and not be allowed to vote.

[PJKino]

Meh, just the way of the world. Far more men complain about 'overweight women' than women about men, anyhow.

 

 

Lets not act like fat overwieght Men are in high demand to females

 

Some women dont mind slightly overweight guys not because theyre not shallow but because it makes them look better and smaller in contrast..

[PJKino]

This is what I'm talking about. Pure hatred for women. Things don't go as you want them to; women shouldn't be given the right to vote.

 

Seriously? Which part of women are far more vulnerable is hard to understand? We are shorter, we are lighter. Do you think that a man who wants to hurt us is willing to spend(as you say) 200 - 500 dollars on a woman only to beat her up?

 

Is money growing on trees?

 

Second, there are stds that cannot be tested in men. A man who is willing to invest money and his time shows that he cares enough for him(since he shows the woman he's not interested in pumping and dumping), we can be more comfortable with him because we know he takes good care of himself too.

 

If he's willing to make sacrifices, then he's thinking about the future.

 

Your appearance you say. Do you know how much money we spend on ourselves to make ourselves the knockouts men love to speak of(don't think I haven't visited askmen. or sites geared for PUA's).

 

Many, many of us have natural beauty but that's not enough to secure a good connection... the beauty industry has revenues in the order of more than 1 Billion. What does this mean?

 

It means that we women have to be more and more beautiful and sexy for you men. Remember that we retain the traits that are useful in attracting a mate. That's why we prefer taller men and why you men prefer a woman with meat on her bones(forget about GREEN).

 

You're not a woman. You don't know how we feel when you associate money spent on a woman = Sex.

 

Or that women are prostitutes for wanting to SEE whether the man is only interested in quick, pleasurable sex or.. is he interested in a real CONNECTION.

 

If you want sex fly down to Holland and visit the Red district, do not assume that all women, especially beautiful women, are hookers for hire due to our preference to see who's willing to be a decent partner and who is not .

 

Do you have any idea of what it is to be approached EVERY DAY by so many men keen on getting into our pants? Do you know what it is like to have feelings for a man but the anxiety keeps creeping in, because we aren't sure of the man's intentions?

 

Is he interested in being a good man or is he interested in "scoring one touchdown" with me just to brag to his friends?

 

Is he interested in me because my eyes are very similar to the eyes of the woman who broke his heart?

 

Is he interested in me because I'd look good hanging from his arm?

 

Is he interested in me for my personality, my ambitions, my objectives and how I envision myself in a world of independence and newfound freedom for the female gender?

 

Does he respect my feelings?

 

And so much more that you can't understand.´

 

Your idea is that, a woman has requirements = she's a hooker.

 

Excuse me for not being interested in banging every man out there.

 

Excuse me for being selective. Maybe you should blame it on mother nature.

 

But you know, you are the way you are because women have always been selective. Think of the greater plan instead of thinking with your groin. Guys like these, found on LS, give the average man a very bad name .

 

Thank God I have never met a man like this. Creepy.

 

lol at tihnking if a Man spends on you he autoamtically cares for you and cant beat you.. What a naive way to look at things..How do you think some women end up in abusive relationshps?

 

Im sure the Man spent money in the begining and pretended to be a good guy but wasnt..

 

AS for your self absorbed rant on womens fears you dont think Men have fears?

 

Do you think were all robotic sociopaths with no feelings or emotions?

[PJKino]

What part of "women want a man with healthy genes" is complicated?

 

What the hell does that have to do with what i said?

[PJKino]

You said that the women who have an obese man as a partner, aren't into the guy, physically, that they date the guy because it makes the woman seem less shallow.

 

Again, with the fantastic notion that all women are shallow, even more perplexing because it comes from a man too afraid to speak to a woman due to his extremely low self - esteem.

 

 

I never said women would date an obese Man i said slightly overweight maybe because it makes them look better in contrast..

 

Theyres nothing wrong with being shallow to some extent both genders are but women try to deny theyre level of shallowness where Men dont..

[waynebrady]

This is what I'm talking about. Pure hatred for women. Things don't go as you want them to; women shouldn't be given the right to vote.

 

And you are showing nothing but pure hatred for men in your posts. You want equality ONLY when it's in your favor as a woman. You think the man should pay for everything and put in all the effort... What should the woman do for the man to recprocate then? You think women should have equality in everything else right? You villify men in every one of your posts and talk about how bad we are... please, if you hate us so much then why even bother hanging in this forum? You obviously have no intrest in ever being with a man.

[sanskrit]

This is what I'm talking about. Pure hatred for women.

 

And the ridiculous "hate card" comes out to play as it usually does here on leftshack. Is that all you got? Should really not even reply past that, but am lazy today and it's raining hard outside. Doesn't it get old telling men who disagree with you that they "hate" women? Doesn't it make you feel like a child? Because only children or their adult equivalents go running around spouting "I hate you!" "You hate me!" :lmao:

 

Things don't go as you want them to; women shouldn't be given the right to vote.

 

-I- didn't make the generalization of women as these special creatures in need of kid glove treatment, -you- did. Read a bit more carefully please.

 

Seriously? Which part of women are far more vulnerable is hard to understand?

 

The point was that women don't have a monopoly on being vulnerable. Men are every bit as vulnerable in early dating, and if you measure vulnerability in any concrete way, dollars for instance, men are MUCH more vulnerable in early dating than women.

 

Is money growing on trees?

 

No idea what you are getting at.

 

pumping and dumping

 

You say "pump and dump," I say "woman who jumps into bed with a man whom she knows she has little chance of landing" wishfully thinking that he will "come around," while utterly ignoring men whom she actually matches with. The top 60% of women tend to chase after the top 10% of guys and ignore the rest. And as the wise man said, in doing that, you reap what you sow.

 

Many, many of us have natural beauty but that's not enough to secure a good connection

 

That's right, if a woman isn't in the top 10% of objective desirability, all the makeup and pushup bras in the world aren't going to land that 10% tall, handsome, wealthy man. Keep spending though, lord knows the economy needs it.

 

... the beauty industry has revenues in the order of more than 1 Billion. What does this mean?

 

Um, dunno, maybe that women's vanity is infinitely insatiable? 90% of that spending is not done to impress men, but to compete with other women. Or rather, no straight man can tell the difference between a $500 purse and a $50 one, $50 lipstick versus $10 lipstick, $100 face cream versus $5 face cream. Your point was again?

 

You're not a woman. You don't know how we feel when you associate money spent on a woman = Sex.

 

Why should a man, in this day and age, be beholden to pay for early dates when most women in the dating pool have had sex with a f-buddy or FWB that week or even plan to that night? That ain't exactly "special" enough to pay good money for, is it? Some other guy gets it for free.

 

If you want sex fly down to Holland and visit the Red district, do not assume that all women, especially beautiful women, are hookers for hire due to our preference to see who's willing to be a decent partner and who is not .

 

Actually, I'd take my chances dating a woman who works at the Yab Yum over most privileged US Sex and the City types who sleep with everything that moves and still expect to benefit from the double standards of the past. At least a man knows what he is getting from that straightforward type of arrangement instead of pouring money down a rathole.

 

How stupid do you think men are? We do "wake up" to cultural realities eventually. My wakeup call came by way of booty calls from women who had allowed men to pay for dates the very night they asked me over to sex them. I'm not exactly Don Juan, so figure, if they are doing it -with- me, they are doing it -to- me.

 

Do you have any idea of what it is to be approached EVERY DAY by so many men keen on getting into our pants? Do you know what it is like to have feelings for a man but the anxiety keeps creeping in, because we aren't sure of the man's intentions?

 

How bout just not sleeping with him until you -know- him, and not conditioning that knowledge on how much money he is willing to spend on you, as if that proves anything anyway. I know tons of geezers who fly women all over the world for tail with no intent of a relationship whatsoever.

 

All the "is he interested" examples you give are found out over TIME and mutually shared experience, not in relation in any way to MONEY.

 

Your idea is that, a woman has requirements = she's a hooker.

 

Wrong. My idea is that if a woman's requirements involve an expectation that a man spend a certain amount of money on her, THEN she's the equivalent of a hooker.

 

But you know, you are the way you are

 

You have no idea "how I am" other than I resent being told that in the year 2010, that an expectation by a woman that a man spend money on her to "prove" himself is reasonable, and yes I equate her to a prostitute. That's ALL you know about me. I know that there are plenty of women out there who don't have the same level of materialistic expectations.

[waynebrady]

it does when you stop thinking of it as a business transaction; women invest far more in men.

 

Our youth, our fertility, and we are very vulnerable. Remember that women are more susceptible to catching a std.

 

Men who are interested enough in us will respect us enough to accept how we function.

 

No you don't. Men pay for most if not everything, Men put in all the effort, Men take all the initatives, Men do all the "chasing", Men show all the intrest and do all the work to "get" you.

 

Women don't put in any effort in relationships what so ever.

[musemaj11]

This is what I'm talking about. Pure hatred for women. Things don't go as you want them to; women shouldn't be given the right to vote.

 

Seriously? Which part of women are far more vulnerable is hard to understand? We are shorter, we are lighter. Do you think that a man who wants to hurt us is willing to spend(as you say) 200 - 500 dollars on a woman only to beat her up?

 

Is money growing on trees?

 

Second, there are stds that cannot be tested in men. A man who is willing to invest money and his time shows that he cares enough for him(since he shows the woman he's not interested in pumping and dumping), we can be more comfortable with him because we know he takes good care of himself too.

 

If he's willing to make sacrifices, then he's thinking about the future.

 

Your appearance you say. Do you know how much money we spend on ourselves to make ourselves the knockouts men love to speak of(don't think I haven't visited askmen. or sites geared for PUA's).

 

Many, many of us have natural beauty but that's not enough to secure a good connection... the beauty industry has revenues in the order of more than 1 Billion. What does this mean?

 

It means that we women have to be more and more beautiful and sexy for you men. Remember that we retain the traits that are useful in attracting a mate. That's why we prefer taller men and why you men prefer a woman with meat on her bones(forget about GREEN).

 

You're not a woman. You don't know how we feel when you associate money spent on a woman = Sex.

 

Or that women are prostitutes for wanting to SEE whether the man is only interested in quick, pleasurable sex or.. is he interested in a real CONNECTION.

 

If you want sex fly down to Holland and visit the Red district, do not assume that all women, especially beautiful women, are hookers for hire due to our preference to see who's willing to be a decent partner and who is not .

 

Do you have any idea of what it is to be approached EVERY DAY by so many men keen on getting into our pants? Do you know what it is like to have feelings for a man but the anxiety keeps creeping in, because we aren't sure of the man's intentions?

 

Is he interested in being a good man or is he interested in "scoring one touchdown" with me just to brag to his friends?

 

Is he interested in me because my eyes are very similar to the eyes of the woman who broke his heart?

 

Is he interested in me because I'd look good hanging from his arm?

 

Is he interested in me for my personality, my ambitions, my objectives and how I envision myself in a world of independence and newfound freedom for the female gender?

 

Does he respect my feelings?

 

And so much more that you can't understand.´

 

Your idea is that, a woman has requirements = she's a hooker.

 

Excuse me for not being interested in banging every man out there.

 

Excuse me for being selective. Maybe you should blame it on mother nature.

 

But you know, you are the way you are because women have always been selective. Think of the greater plan instead of thinking with your groin. Guys like these, found on LS, give the average man a very bad name .

 

Thank God I have never met a man like this. Creepy.

Wow, I have to say you are one super insecure person.

 

Very very sad.

[112233]

Google Fight!!!

[musemaj11]

Did you know that taking vaccines when you are a baby show your parents to be very insecure parents?

 

Gotta love the logic.

In all your posts you keep rambling about how hateful men. But honestly you are just the female version of the same people you always talk about.

[PJKino]

And the ridiculous "hate card" comes out to play as it usually does here on leftshack. Is that all you got? Should really not even reply past that, but am lazy today and it's raining hard outside. Doesn't it get old telling men who disagree with you that they "hate" women? Doesn't it make you feel like a child? Because only children or their adult equivalents go running around spouting "I hate you!" "You hate me!" :lmao:

 

 

 

-I- didn't make the generalization of women as these special creatures in need of kid glove treatment, -you- did. Read a bit more carefully please.

 

 

 

The point was that women don't have a monopoly on being vulnerable. Men are every bit as vulnerable in early dating, and if you measure vulnerability in any concrete way, dollars for instance, men are MUCH more vulnerable in early dating than women.

 

 

 

No idea what you are getting at.

 

 

 

You say "pump and dump," I say "woman who jumps into bed with a man whom she knows she has little chance of landing" wishfully thinking that he will "come around," while utterly ignoring men whom she actually matches with. The top 60% of women tend to chase after the top 10% of guys and ignore the rest. And as the wise man said, in doing that, you reap what you sow.

 

 

 

That's right, if a woman isn't in the top 10% of objective desirability, all the makeup and pushup bras in the world aren't going to land that 10% tall, handsome, wealthy man. Keep spending though, lord knows the economy needs it.

 

 

 

Um, dunno, maybe that women's vanity is infinitely insatiable? 90% of that spending is not done to impress men, but to compete with other women. Or rather, no straight man can tell the difference between a $500 purse and a $50 one, $50 lipstick versus $10 lipstick, $100 face cream versus $5 face cream. Your point was again?

 

 

 

Why should a man, in this day and age, be beholden to pay for early dates when most women in the dating pool have had sex with a f-buddy or FWB that week or even plan to that night? That ain't exactly "special" enough to pay good money for, is it? Some other guy gets it for free.

 

 

 

Actually, I'd take my chances dating a woman who works at the Yab Yum over most privileged US Sex and the City types who sleep with everything that moves and still expect to benefit from the double standards of the past. At least a man knows what he is getting from that straightforward type of arrangement instead of pouring money down a rathole.

 

How stupid do you think men are? We do "wake up" to cultural realities eventually. My wakeup call came by way of booty calls from women who had allowed men to pay for dates the very night they asked me over to sex them. I'm not exactly Don Juan, so figure, if they are doing it -with- me, they are doing it -to- me.

 

 

 

How bout just not sleeping with him until you -know- him, and not conditioning that knowledge on how much money he is willing to spend on you, as if that proves anything anyway. I know tons of geezers who fly women all over the world for tail with no intent of a relationship whatsoever.

 

All the "is he interested" examples you give are found out over TIME and mutually shared experience, not in relation in any way to MONEY.

 

 

 

Wrong. My idea is that if a woman's requirements involve an expectation that a man spend a certain amount of money on her, THEN she's the equivalent of a hooker.

 

 

 

You have no idea "how I am" other than I resent being told that in the year 2010, that an expectation by a woman that a man spend money on her to "prove" himself is reasonable, and yes I equate her to a prostitute. That's ALL you know about me. I know that there are plenty of women out there who don't have the same level of materialistic expectations.

 

Bravo..You shut her down quite well

[musemaj11]

If Akherousia were a man, some woman on this forum would have hit the 'Report' button already.

 

I notice that most if not all banned members are males because its usually not the males who cry and tell.

[sanskrit]

I see, this starts out with your privileged position that a man must spend money on you to prove himself to you, and when called out on it, you just start playing the "hate card" and ranting about how men who don't agree with you aren't real men and just need to stop "whinning" (sic).

 

Perfect, and straight from the playbook.

 

You got nothin'.

[112233]

If Akherousia were a man, some woman on this forum would have hit the 'Report' button already.

 

I notice that most if not all banned members are males because its usually not the males who cry and tell on women, just other men.

 

Fixed that for ya.

[PJKino]

Heh? All I see is a frustrated bunch, bitterly whining about how some men don't have to put as much effort into getting women as you lot. Thank God I am not a mother. I'd be heartbroken to have little sissies like you guys, whining that some men "don't have to pay", that you have to work to get "laid" while we women get to "pick and choose".

 

I'll give you the benefict of the doubt WHEN you start having to carry a child for 9 months - extremely vulnerable time period for a woman -; when you have to mesh well with the father of the child, without ever knowing if the guy is going to change and leave me; next time, I'll respect your opinions when you stop being capable of picking up and moving away without having to worry about:

 

1) Am I going to be treated well?

 

2) Is he only going to pump and dump me because I am "damaged goods"?(love the PUA mentality of only seeing mothers as easy sperm dumpsters).

 

3)Am I special?

 

I wonder why most women don't date/reproduce/marry Brad Pitts when most women are by the nature of life more attractive than most men, it must have something to do with our shallow natures and the fact that we can't see past the oxford jock.

 

You see, while most average males are average, only a few are little whinners like you cry babies. If there's something I don't like, what is it?

 

Little girls pretending to be men. My 10 year old cousin is far more manly than you lot far more remarkable when you realize that his tall genes haven't kickstarted yet.

 

How is he so popular with the little girls? He respects them.

 

Again, I don't hate men nor am I bitter. I simply have no patience for little boys - I am into REAL men.

 

Height, body struture and facial features can attract a woman, but what's inside the head is what ultimately matters. A reality you guys could benefict from if you take your head from your butt and stop with the "proclamation" that women are "skanks", "whores", "shallow", "only interested in rich men."

 

Jesus Christ. All the women you've met were:

 

A)Gold - diggers.

 

B) Shallow.

 

C)And they rejected you.

 

So all the women on this beautiful planet are like those?

 

I see you whinners and babies complaining, am I going to forever isolate myself from male company?

 

No. Because I find out how the man is before I think of becoming involved with him.

 

Now if you'll excuse me.. I got a game to play. Darth Vaders' apprentice(Star Wars: The force Unleashed) is far more manly than you guys and why is that?

 

He doesn't friking whine.

 

Man the hell up.

 

Youre so self absorbed its mind boggling..And nobody thinks or said all women are shallow gold diggers you just happen to be one it doesnt mean all or most are..

[musemaj11]

They were banned due to their lack of respect for women. Nothing to do with "gender" preferences, sweet lord .

Yea and you on the other hand have so much respect for men?

 

You are incapable of seeing things from the other point of view. in EVERY SINGLE post of yours, its always 100% one-sided.