Mme. Chaucer Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 I think they engage him because deep down they love him. Where's the emoticon for "I just threw up a little in my mouth"?
Titania22 Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Where's the emoticon for "I just threw up a little in my mouth"? It's this
Surrealist Posted November 10, 2010 Posted November 10, 2010 Awwww that's a bit mean. I know it's probably a love / hate thing.
Jannah Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 I am a woman and I like men, I just don't trust some of their motives. QFT: It is going to take one amazing man to break me from this mindset. Engagement ring quality.
MrNate Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 (edited) It should be no surprise to anyone that I love the ladies. (personal view aside) When God created everything, he spent most of his time creating the woman, because he wanted her to be perfect. So here's to you, ladies. Man, I think its getting time for an ass thread. Edited November 11, 2010 by MrNate
Author that girl Posted November 11, 2010 Author Posted November 11, 2010 Your general political views are of course completely irrelevant to this thread, but what you just said is a highly unlikely statement. It shocks you that I am political liberal and have conservative friends? Seriously, that is shocking? And it wasn't irrelevant, I was giving an example about how a diversity of thought can be tolerated without tolerating bigotry. The problem with saying this now is that your first post, itself, is a huge generalization. You made the generalization that a majority of men at LS are essentially bitter women haters. However you were clever enough not to come straight out and say that directly in your first post, but now you have admitted that your objective was to draw out the "women haters." What you did was to conceal a pre-existing bias, reflecting itself in a completely unjustified generalization that you made about the men at Love Shack. You generalized based on their "equipment." When this was pointed out to you earlier in the thread, you basically decided to start attacking me personally, and you haven't stopped since. All I aimed for was brevity. I in no way wanted to hide my intent. The woman haters here are pretty open about it. If you've read the thread, you know I'm not the only poster who thinks things here can get a little toxically anti-woman. Calling me a "troll" is certainly insulting, deliberately intended to insult me, and I suspect intended to provoke. No it's not "irrational" in the sense that you have a deliberate reason for insulting me and repeatedly insulting me. But it is "irrational" in the sense that your characterization of me is completely reflective of a gender bias and prejudice which you claim to perceive in men. I think you're a troll because you're a man? Umm.... no. I gave you a very specific example of you trolling. You cut out the most relevant portions of responses to go off in an entirely different tangent. My saying it is better to compliment a woman than to try to rip down her self-esteem does not translate into "Lie to women!" for any rational human being. It's interesting that you're now so bereft of justification for what you're doing, that you are pulling material from completely separate discussions to continue your irrelevant personal attacks. My reply to you was long and detailed. If I needed to hunt for material, more than 10% of that very long comment would have come from another thread. It is simple logic. However it's also quite illuminating that what you would pick to quote from another thread is a perfect example of an irrational and/or hypocritical approach to relations between the sexes, on your part. You believe that a man's lying to a woman to induce her to have sex with her is ethically acceptable and has zero negative impact on her self esteem, and that's just....irrational. You are intentionally misrepresenting what I said, despite the fact that I have said it twice very clearly. This is either trolling or stupidity on your part. No one who really cared about women, no one who really cared about relations between men and women, no one who really cared about honesty and integrity, would openly endorse the practice of men deliberately and repeatedly lying to women simply in order to deceive the woman into having sex with the man. Aren't you embarrassed by lying like this? The words and attitudes we present will stand or fall on their own. Yes, our words do say a lot about us. When you are done with all your name calling, leaving that legacy of yourself, you will also have left your legacy as a person who actually is on record as stating that deliberate deception in relationships is appropriate. This makes the fourth time he claims I said this (I cut one out for space). But it isn't true and anyone can check the thread. But I'll say it again. I assumed that a man who complimented a woman in hopes of sleeping with her was telling the truth. It might be naive of me, but I think most people try to sleep with those who feel attractive. So when he suggested the choice was between intentionally breaking down a woman's self-esteem and complimenting her, I said compliments were the better path. He shoots back with "So men should lie to women?" I explained that I assumed the compliments were genuine, but even if they weren't complimenting someone is better than trying to break them down, even if you don't mean them. So it goes: Best- Genuine niceness Pretty Manipulative- Fake niceness to get what you want Psychotic Pile of Evil- Intentionally trying to break down someone's self-esteem so they will feel pathetic enough to date you. [Cutting out the rest of the rambling where he tells me how he doesn't feel anything about me, but I display the behaviors that make men hate women.]
Green Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 All I aimed for was brevity. I in no way wanted to hide my intent. The woman haters here are pretty open about it. If you've read the thread, you know I'm not the only poster who thinks things here can get a little toxically anti-woman. No you HATE men its been pretty obviouse not just from this thread but many. I really don't know of any woman haters on LS. I know of men afraid of women trying to look out for themselves. I knew of men who have particuar taste in women (which always offends) such as that they be a certain age or of a certain culture (not american) ect... but I don't know of any men on here that HATE women. The most frustrated of men around her want women to love them.
112233 Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 I knew of men who have particuar taste in women (which always offends) such as that they be a certain age or of a certain culture (not american) .... Yeah, it's funny how it gets twisted around; I say I won't date fat chicks and suddenly I'm not a real man and I hate women. Wow. I have preferences and coincidentally and happily, a lot of the woman I prefer are thrilled to get a shot at dating me. Why the angst?
Untouchable_Fire Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 It shocks you that I am political liberal and have conservative friends? Seriously, that is shocking? Actually that IS shocking. I'm pretty middle of the road. I think my voting record is like 60% R and 40% D. I've actually caucus with both parties depending on several elections. Obama vs. Clinton was the nastiest political event I've ever attended. Romney vs. Paul vs. McCain was very civil despite the massive difference in political beliefs. I can say that in my experience... liberals are very intolerant of people who disagree, and often won't associate with them. The conservatives at least listen to my views politely... even when they disagree.
hydorclops Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 Actually that IS shocking. I'm pretty middle of the road. I think my voting record is like 60% R and 40% D. I've actually caucus with both parties depending on several elections. Obama vs. Clinton was the nastiest political event I've ever attended. Romney vs. Paul vs. McCain was very civil despite the massive difference in political beliefs. I can say that in my experience... liberals are very intolerant of people who disagree, and often won't associate with them. The conservatives at least listen to my views politely... even when they disagree. But your experience is pretty useless. Assertions like American women are... or Liberals are... even when qualified, seem like pseudo intellectual posturing. No one can draw any conclusions of any kind, even you, from your experience with these categories of people. Many qualities, general or specific, about American women, or liberals, or any large group like, that are unknowable. No individual is capable of having a broad enough experience to come to any conclusions.No statistical analysis or scientific study can ever answer these questions. American women are spoiled (or whatever you claimed). Liberals are less tolerant than conservatives. It's just fatuous crap. Sorry, no offense.
Surrealist Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 Actually that IS shocking. I'm pretty middle of the road. I think my voting record is like 60% R and 40% D. I've actually caucus with both parties depending on several elections. Obama vs. Clinton was the nastiest political event I've ever attended. Romney vs. Paul vs. McCain was very civil despite the massive difference in political beliefs. I can say that in my experience... liberals are very intolerant of people who disagree, and often won't associate with them. The conservatives at least listen to my views politely... even when they disagree. Mate you're telling us that conservatives are more tolerant in America? Wtf? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMP3AK5jwo
GorillaTheater Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 Jesus, forget politics guys. Let's get back to women and how they feel and smell and look. Let's get our priorities straight.
hydorclops Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 (edited) Jesus, forget politics guys. Let's get back to women and how they feel and smell and look. Let's get our priorities straight. Now you're injection religion. Edited November 11, 2010 by hydorclops
Titania22 Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 Jesus, forget politics guys. Let's get back to women and how they feel and smell and look. Let's get our priorities straight. I couldn't agree more.
Untouchable_Fire Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 But your experience is pretty useless. Assertions like American women are... or Liberals are... even when qualified, seem like pseudo intellectual posturing. No one can draw any conclusions of any kind, even you, from your experience with these categories of people. Many qualities, general or specific, about American women, or liberals, or any large group like, that are unknowable. No individual is capable of having a broad enough experience to come to any conclusions.No statistical analysis or scientific study can ever answer these questions. American women are spoiled (or whatever you claimed). Liberals are less tolerant than conservatives. It's just fatuous crap. Sorry, no offense. While I am willing to readily agree that my experience as an independent among liberals may not be a reflective of the whole... Your assertion that I can't draw conclusions regarding the average behavior of American women is preposterous. Without completely revisiting that thread... there was ample proof provided to show that American women cheat at more than triple the percentage vs. just 30 years ago. The association of marriage counselors stated flatly that about 60% of infidelity cases that wound up in counseling were female adulteresses. So... if your trying to argue that nothing in the universe is "knowable"... Ok you win. But if there is something which is "Knowable" it's that women here are the Olympic gold metalsts of cheating and adultery. Mate you're telling us that conservatives are more tolerant in America? Wtf? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UMP3AK5jwo There are whackjobs on both sides for sure. The media really plays up the religious ones because it gets all the liberals types fired up. The fact is that for every 1 religious nut there are 100 who are kind, polite, and tolerant. It might be different in other parts of the country... I've never been involved in the political process there. But for sure in my area the Liberals are crazy intolerant.
Green Posted November 11, 2010 Posted November 11, 2010 Yeah, it's funny how it gets twisted around; I say I won't date fat chicks and suddenly I'm not a real man and I hate women. Wow. I have preferences and coincidentally and happily, a lot of the woman I prefer are thrilled to get a shot at dating me. Why the angst? I've actualy never seen a woman hating thread on this site. I've made threads about how I like women who arn't Fat as you point out and for all I know I'm one of the people she is talking about. its ridiculouse
NorthBound Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 I feel like a lot of the lurkers on here are probably not the most successful in their pursuit of women and take out their frustration by hating what they can't have. Then there are the people here who have probably been emotionally burned by women in past experience and are bitter. It's not surprising that there is a lot of anti-women sentiments around here. Then again, a lot of female posters are judgmental as hell and have a tendency to lean feminist in thinking. That might provoke it a bit too. I don't think you can generalize gender in this case any better than in the other threads discussing it. On a personal level, I have a tendency to be extremely distrustful of girls. I think they are too socially perceptive and too good at recognizing cues and being fake to get what they want. I don't seek out a lot of female friends because: 1) It is real ****ty to become attracted to people without the skill to escalate anything to the next level 2) They honestly are far more strict/close minded in my experience. Most of them don't really accept my lifestyle, even on a friendship level. I drink and smoke (not cigs) pretty frequently and have some views that are a bit out of the mainstream. I find males generally more accepting/less critical. However, I don't doubt that I may be projecting a lot of what I discussed earlier onto women. As a whole, I would say intergender communication and comprehension is extremely poor. "On a personal level, I have a tendency to be extremely distrustful of girls. I think they are too socially perceptive and too good at recognizing cues and being fake to get what they want." I love women and their beauty... their motherly love, need of protection and exceptional ability to see things in emotional perspectives that men seem to forgot. It's unfortunate that most girls/women where I live and for the most part have to deal with, seem like this... I tend to stop trusting/listening to them aswell. Men with ill-intent act very similar though... I dislike people in general who act like this so I don't think it applies to gender as whole.
counterman Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 I love women. Sometimes the sight of them is all I need to kick start my day Seriously, have you seen some of the girls around? YOWZER.
curiousbell Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Women dont even like women I find this true more than I'd like to admit.
Akherousia Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 I find this true more than I'd like to admit. No one likes competition.
Mme. Chaucer Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 No one likes competition. Very untrue! Competitive people thrive on competition. On a different note, not all women view other women as competition anyway. Some do. Personally, I love my women friends. I have a close friend who has been that way since we were babies (our fathers were together in med school and did their residencies in the same hospital and we were both born during that time). I am on my way to California any moment to get together with a bunch of other long time women friends.
abouttoloseit Posted November 12, 2010 Posted November 12, 2010 Let's get our priorities straight. Is that some sort of sly remark against homosexuals?
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