When somebody says "lower your standards" or "stay in your league"

[Mme. Chaucer]

Well, Steve is a Tall Man and has been groped by literally hundreds of happily married women. He is clearly in a class by himself ... a class that no other human being has ever observed.

[theBrokenMuse]

What is wrong with her being attracted to intelligent guys? Why can't you accept that some women find traits desirable that don't personally hold much sway for you?

Seriously, there are some personality types (such as the INTPs) that consider brain power one of, if not the most important trait that they look for in others. Of course that's not exactly a huge segment of the population but it certainly does exist.

[SteveC80]

I love how I'm "one of those women" now . . . .

 

So you wouldn't be thrilled if you met someone who you found to be attractive and had the qualities of your ideal mate?

 

I never said I didn't like attractive men, I just happen to think there is more to a person's attractiveness than how they look. . . . .

 

but hey, you go right ahead talking to yourself, its rather amusing for the rest of us to see you agree with yourself.

 

I speak the truth,women like you who constantly say how really good looking guys dont do it for you and how theyre all mostly shallow and stupid shows a huge insecurity and defense mecnahnism on your part

 

You rarely hear a women whos in demand and with options say i dont like really good lookign Men becasue thye know they can aquire one and are confident enough in their own skin

[Akherousia]

I love how I'm "one of those women" now . . . .

 

So you wouldn't be thrilled if you met someone who you found to be attractive and had the qualities of your ideal mate?

 

I never said I didn't like attractive men, I just happen to think there is more to a person's attractiveness than how they look. . . . .

 

but hey, you go right ahead talking to yourself, its rather amusing for the rest of us to see you agree with yourself.

 

So now you think me and Steve are the same person?

[Akherousia]

What is wrong with her being attracted to intelligent guys? Why can't you accept that some women find traits desirable that don't personally hold much sway for you?

 

Because science says otherwise. Why aren't you attracted to the elephant man?

[brainygirl]

I speak the truth,women like you who constantly say how really good looking guys dont do it for you and how theyre all mostly shallow and stupid shows a huge insecurity and defense mecnahnism on your part

 

You rarely hear a women whos in demand and with options say i dont like really good lookign Men becasue thye know they can aquire one and are confident enough in their own skin

 

They don't. that would be true if I weight 100 more pounds than I do now or if I lost down to waif-like transparency.

 

I'm sorry if you find it hard to accept, but its true.

[brainygirl]

So now you think me and Steve are the same person?

 

You both use similar phrases in similar situations and seem to be following each other around agreeing with each other. You are the same individual with two handles.

[Leigh 87]

What is wrong with her being attracted to intelligent guys? Why can't you accept that some women find traits desirable that don't personally hold much sway for you?

 

 

I think what she means, is that average or below average people can become heavily drawn to one another physically, however, the intense physical attraction normally comes about AFTER getting to know them ( and falling for their personality).

 

Getting to know a smart guy can or a great women can cause intense desires for average couples to feel physically attracted to the opposite persons bodies.

 

The point is, the initial and instant attraction to a persons body, can sometimes dertemine WHAT types of people one seeks out. Average means that there is nothing that stands out or garners much attention ( until you get to know the person of course).

 

On the other hand, being attractive causes you to stand out due to your attractive features, and it is the PHYSICAL side that causes a man to want to instantly touch the body of, and do dirty things to, a " hot" womens body, purely through first looking at it.

 

Men generally only have sexual desires towards women they have never spoken to, if their bodies are somewhat attractive, in order to make the man have instant sexual desires. Why would a man walk past a women that does not stand out physically in any way, and think of her body in a sexual way?

 

Of course, just because a man has sexual thoughts about a hot womens body, the man could lose interest if the girl turns out to be nasty or off putting. Likewise, an average girl who does not get a man to feel instant sexual desire towards them, can put forward endearing qualities that makes the man develop INTENSE sexual desires towards her " average" body.

opportunuties, and the statistics that result from them; attractive people naturally seek each other out to initially pursue a relationship with; they see an attractive person at one point in their lives, and come to realize that they are attractive enough to attain such women, that they really desire initially.

 

Some attractive people will be great as people, and others will be dissappointments, which is why some attractive people will reject the attractive women he initially goes for, and end up meeting an average women by chance, and fall for them.

 

However, it makes more sense that people gravitate toards the finest looking specimens they can find, and if attractive people realize they have higher sucess rates getting the attentions of attractive people, they will continue to go for the people they find more attractive initially.

 

Attractive people will actively seek more attractive people out ( they will want to go and approach a cute looking girl, rather than a plain one, purely based on looks, before getting to know them personally).

 

However, there are plenty of chances for attractive people to meet average or below average people through studying or any form of social or organized activities, and get to fall for the average person.

 

I just think that because it is human nature to desire fit, slender, in shape, clear skinned, and healthier looking people, that people who attains

such standards will continue to do so. Where as unnattractive people will naturally look harder, seeing as the attractive people are seeking out, and responding to each other, and not average people ( off the bat, on ffirst encounters, when two people first approach one another).

 

Sorry, but even a very self confident, bubbly, " great" pesonality, will not get a super hot guy or girl to go and approach them as often as an attacrtive person will seek an attractive person out.

 

More often than not, it is the personalities of average or below average people that trigger sexual desires, and attractive people trigger a higher amount of other attractive people to be sexually drawn to them, without getting to know them.

[Mme. Chaucer]

Now I'm an old crone, but in my past I was what you'd term "in demand." Certainly, super attractive men ... attracted me. You should really internalize this, though: handsome and a good body are pretty dismissible in men, from the perspective of a LOT of "in demand" women's' perspectives.

 

Of the important relationships of my youth, the MOST compelling one was with a pretty odd looking guy; really skinny with a poor complexion. The front man of a popular band, he oozed sex appeal. In a club full of bona fide actors and models (in LA, where good looks are the norm), he drew the most attention from women.

[Akherousia]

You both use similar phrases in similar situations and seem to be following each other around agreeing with each other. You are the same individual with two handles.

 

Well, it seems that paranoia is pretty much the natural state of the people visiting LS. We use similar phrases because our thoughts are similar. There are people using shovels in Africa and people using shovels in America.

 

Does that mean that they're the same person? No, it only means they're using the same tool to get the same job done. Following each other, now that's another funny one. There's this little thing called refresh button. When I see a new post I go there and I either comment or just watch.

 

Steve and I happen to post on the same threads. Doesn't mean I'm him. It only means that we're both interested in the same thread/topic.

 

Please, you already have enough difficulties landing a quality man. Don't make it any harder on yourself by being paranoid.

 

And before I'm yet again accused of being someone else, I've read your previous posts. Just to know the person I'm talking to.

 

Was that logical enough to you or do I need to explain myself, slowly?

[Leigh 87]

OMG, and to the person who responded to my opinion regarding slender women, I DO NOT LIKE STICK THIN WOMEN WHO HAVE BREAST ENHANCEMTNS.

 

I get it - you like healthy, strong, fit women. I like healthy looking women, who happen to have smaller bones, and long limbs. I do not like them to have huge breasts; I just think a slender figure that is ALSO healthy and fit, is more appealing than the average women.

 

Look, women who have long and lean body shapes with p[retty faces are attractive to a larger number of men, than short women with heavy builds. And it is nto due to media pressure; it is natural attraction levels that are innate. I like slender women because I think their bodies are mroe attractive to look at. I have since I was a young kid. It does not always have anything to do with MEDIA pressure, although some people feel pressure to have a " trophy" girlfriend, or " arm candy".

[Akherousia]

Now I'm an old crone, but in my past I was what you'd term "in demand." Certainly, super attractive men ... attracted me. You should really internalize this, though: handsome and a good body are pretty dismissible in men, from the perspective of a LOT of "in demand" women's' perspectives.

 

Of the important relationships of my youth, the MOST compelling one was with a pretty odd looking guy; really skinny with a poor complexion. The front man of a popular band, he oozed sex appeal. In a club full of bona fide actors and models (in LA, where good looks are the norm), he drew the most attention from women.

 

 

That's because he was seen as a bad boy. You people cant' really pick up examples like a skinny, little guy but at the same time the head of a rock band. You can't pick up Jack Nicholson and say "see, he gets a lot of women."

 

He gets women because he's rich and famous and powerful. If he was the milkman, he wouldn't be getting any. And no, I wouldn't sleep with him.

[brainygirl]

Well, it seems that paranoia is pretty much the natural state of the people visiting LS. We use similar phrases because our thoughts are similar. There are people using shovels in Africa and people using shovels in America.

 

Does that mean that they're the same person? No, it only means they're using the same tool to get the same job done. Following each other, now that's another funny one. There's this little thing called refresh button. When I see a new post I go there and I either comment or just watch.

 

Steve and I happen to post on the same threads. Doesn't mean I'm him. It only means that we're both interested in the same thread/topic.

 

Please, you already have enough difficulties landing a quality man. Don't make it any harder on yourself by being paranoid.

 

And before I'm yet again accused of being someone else, I've read your previous posts. Just to know the person I'm talking to.

 

Was that logical enough to you or do I need to explain myself, slowly?

 

 

what do you care? you aren't interested in anything but screwing as many hot men as possible, they don't even have to be decent human beings.

 

You care Steve's creation, his idealized perfect woman. Catty, shallow, young and sexually free.

 

I suggest you leave me and my life alone.

[Mme. Chaucer]

 

Look, women who have long and lean body shapes with p[retty faces are attractive to a larger number of men, than short women with heavy builds.

 

Once again, I don't think that you can speak with any serious authority on what "the majority" of men like. We all know what YOU think is the most attractive, Leigh.

 

I won't argue that what you describe is pretty, and good for marketing.

[SteveC80]

Well, it seems that paranoia is pretty much the natural state of the people visiting LS. We use similar phrases because our thoughts are similar. There are people using shovels in Africa and people using shovels in America.

 

Does that mean that they're the same person? No, it only means they're using the same tool to get the same job done. Following each other, now that's another funny one. There's this little thing called refresh button. When I see a new post I go there and I either comment or just watch.

 

Steve and I happen to post on the same threads. Doesn't mean I'm him. It only means that we're both interested in the same thread/topic.

 

Please, you already have enough difficulties landing a quality man. Don't make it any harder on yourself by being paranoid.

 

And before I'm yet again accused of being someone else, I've read your previous posts. Just to know the person I'm talking to.

 

Was that logical enough to you or do I need to explain myself, slowly?

 

I wanted to try to edit this post but i forgot to log in as this alias:laugh:

[Akherousia]

what do you care? you aren't interested in anything but screwing as many hot men as possible, they don't even have to be decent human beings.

 

You care Steve's creation, his idealized perfect woman. Catty, shallow, young and sexually free.

 

I suggest you leave me and my life alone.

 

 

No, sweetey. I am what most human beings are. The difference between me and other people is? I can do what I want. When I want. Whenever I want it and I'm also very honest about it.

 

Shallow. Now you're saying that all the greatest artists and writers and musicians are shallow. Somehow, I suspect you wish you had the ability to be shallow.

[Akherousia]

I wanted to try to edit this post but i forgot to log in as this alias:laugh:

 

Even steve finds this "you must be green. No wait! You must be Markat! No! You must be steve" mentality to be funny.

[northern_sky]

That's because he was seen as a bad boy. You people cant' really pick up examples like a skinny, little guy but at the same time the head of a rock band. You can't pick up Jack Nicholson and say "see, he gets a lot of women."

 

He gets women because he's rich and famous and powerful. If he was the milkman, he wouldn't be getting any. And no, I wouldn't sleep with him.

 

The guy I knew in college who slept with the hottest chicks wasn't what most people would consider traditionally good looking (although I personally thought he was cute). In the middle of some debate, can't remember the topic, I once posted a picture of him briefly on here and people tore him apart...they said he was effeminate and not attractive, blah blah. Still, he got plenty of action because he had a confident, edge aura.

[Mme. Chaucer]

So now you think me and Steve are the same person?

 

You certainly aren't the same person. You have basic spelling and sentence structure under your belt. Neither you nor Steve presents yourselves as clever enough to perpetrate a charade here that would include illiteracy.

 

I do wonder which regular poster you are a recent incarnation of ... I believe it would be a male one, and one who loves to stir the pot.

[brainygirl]

No, sweetey. I am what most human beings are. The difference between me and other people is? I can do what I want. When I want. Whenever I want it and I'm also very honest about it.

 

Shallow. Now you're saying that all the greatest artists and writers and musicians are shallow. Somehow, I suspect you wish you had the ability to be shallow.

 

Even a fat ugly girl could be shallow, all she has to do is to have no moral compass and be overly concerned about what others look like.

 

Luckily for me, I'm not ugly, I may be fat, but that can be fixed, I'm afraid your personality is set at this point. Good luck with that attitude in the future, I'm sure you'll go far.

[Akherousia]

You certainly aren't the same person. You have basic spelling and sentence structure under your belt. Neither you nor Steve presents yourselves as clever enough to perpetrate a charade here that would include illiteracy.

 

I do wonder which regular poster you are a recent incarnation of ... I believe it would be a male one, and one who loves to stir the pot.

 

Ah, personal attacks. Now I'm loving it. What did I say? paranoia. I'm enjoying it quite much.

[theBrokenMuse]

No, sweetey. I am what most human beings are.

Considering what most human beings are... it's hardly something to brag about.

[Akherousia]

Even a fat ugly girl could be shallow, all she has to do is to have no moral compass and be overly concerned about what others look like.

 

Luckily for me, I'm not ugly, I may be fat, but that can be fixed, I'm afraid your personality is set at this point. Good luck with that attitude in the future, I'm sure you'll go far.

 

 

Fat is ugly. Extra pounds aren't sweet to the eyes. Diet and extreme exercise?

 

Can't be compared to natural fitness. Which means you have something going against you when the United States are filled with young and very fit women.

 

My personality gets me what I want. Sex with hot guys. How's that personality landing you attractive men?

[Mme. Chaucer]

You can't pick up Jack Nicholson and say "see, he gets a lot of women."

 

He gets women because he's rich and famous and powerful. If he was the milkman, he wouldn't be getting any. And no, I wouldn't sleep with him.

 

Jack Nicholson was a compelling force with the ladies BEFORE he was rich, famous and powerful. His inner power was one of the very reasons he attained the stature of rich, famous, powerful movie star.

 

If you can't see this in your daily life ... you must not be a very observant girl, Akherousia. Or you just don't get out much.

[Akherousia]

Considering what most human beings are... it's hardly something to brag about.

 

I was wondering when the morality team would arrive. First we had the grammar team. Then we had the "why can't a woman be attracted to confidence " team and now we have the morality team.

 

And we have the fat team that is bitterly against women with "shallow" mentalities.