Am I average, attractive or unattractive?

[TheMENemy]

See, OP? This is why I was so reluctant to answer you and probably why a few others won't answer as well. You might not have gotten mad, but others would. Hence me being accused of 'smoking crack' or being another poster with a grudge.

 

I wasn't trying to be hurtful, just honest. Like I said before, I personally see nothing wrong with being average. Like I said before, I'm average as well and totally happy with it! I would never want to hurt your feelings or anything. I hope you believe me.

 

 

Sorry, the crack thing was meant to be a j/k.

 

Look at the pictures again. The OP is not obese, and she has no obvious "bad" features. As far as I can tell her complexion is OK.

 

Her face is symmetrical and well-proportioned. She's generally youthful in appearance.

 

Those things AUTOMATICALLY makes her more than a five, which is "average."

Edited November 2, 2010 by TheMENemy

[Tim The Enchanter]

Anyone else notice how the OP ignores most of the flattering comments, and focuses on the negative or ambiguous?

[Tim The Enchanter]

Sorry, the crack thing was meant to be a j/k.

 

Look at the pictures again. The OP is not obese, and she has no obvious "bad" features. As far as I can tell her complexion is OK.

 

Her face is symmetrical and well-proportioned. She's generally youthful in appearance.

 

Those things AUTOMATICALLY makes her more than a five, which is "average."

 

Completely agree. If I felt that someone was average or unattractive, I would say it. She has good bone structure, well defined features and nice, large eyes. Saying that she's "below average" or "5" is a joke, frankly.

[northern_sky]

Anyone else notice how the OP ignores most of the flattering comments, and focuses on the negative or ambiguous?

 

Yeah, you're right. That's a bad habit. I guess I assume the negative comments are more truthful, which is stupid.

[bayouboi]

I find your pictures to be very attractive which is odd because you're not smiling in any of them and you're not all "made up" or anything. I guess that says a lot about my own preferences.

[Sarah1977]

Sorry, the crack thing was meant to be a j/k.

 

Look at the pictures again. The OP is not obese, and she has no obvious "bad" features. As far as I can tell her complexion is OK.

 

Her face is symmetrical and well-proportioned. She's generally youthful in appearance.

 

Those things AUTOMATICALLY makes her more than a five, which is "average."

 

 

Well, I guess I just disagree. I don't think someone who is obese with a lop sided face and comically large or small features is 'average.' I would say that person was significantly below average.

 

Decent features and healthy weight to me equals average.

 

I also want to make note of the fact that when asking about the attractiveness of any particular person, the level of attractiveness of the person you asked will play a huge role in the answers you get.

 

For example, I have a guy friend who thinks I'm drop dead gorgeous. But, he's a really ugly guy himself, so of course he's going to think that.

 

I also have a guy friend who is extremely attractive. I am obviously only average to him.

 

I tend to go for average looking guys, myself, because they generally find me cute.

[Tim The Enchanter]

Well, I guess I just disagree. I don't think someone who is obese with a lop sided face and comically large or small features is 'average.' I would say that person was significantly below average.

 

I think you misread what he said.

[good_vibes]

I'll admit the below average responses surprised me a little, but I still appreciate the honesty behind them. I guess it's just that even when I'm feeling unattractive or ugly, I always try to tell myself "that's just you being overly self critical." This was the first time since childhood I've heard somebody call me below average, but it makes me think I need to revamp my whole self image since it's probably out of touch with reality, in that I try to believe that I'm at least average.

 

This is exactly what I mean. Why would you feel unattractive or ugly in the first place?

 

And then, just because 1 or 2 people say you are below average, you feel you need to revamp your whole self image, thinking it's out of touch with reality because before you thought you were "at least average".

 

I think you need to revamp your self-image more so by feel good about yourself inside rather than relying on what someone else says on the outside.

[Mattock5656]

I find you attractive. I like the two pictures on the left the best. Also, I like females with more pale skin, so you fit more into what I like a female to look like.

[northern_sky]

This is exactly what I mean. Why would you feel unattractive or ugly in the first place?

 

And then, just because 1 or 2 people say you are below average, you feel you need to revamp your whole self image, thinking it's out of touch with reality because before you thought you were "at least average".

 

I think you need to revamp your self-image more so by feel good about yourself inside rather than relying on what someone else says on the outside.

 

I guess the reason I sometimes feel that way is because guys never approach or ask me out.

[Mattock5656]

This is exactly what I mean. Why would you feel unattractive or ugly in the first place?

 

And then, just because 1 or 2 people say you are below average, you feel you need to revamp your whole self image, thinking it's out of touch with reality because before you thought you were "at least average".

 

I think you need to revamp your self-image more so by feel good about yourself inside rather than relying on what someone else says on the outside.

 

I completely agree, if anything negative thoughts on yourself will destroy you and make you un-attractive in that aspect. I tend to do that sometimes, but you just gotta snap out of it.

[In The Green]

 

But your eyes are a little too far apart which is what gives you that shocked, deer in headlights look about you. It's almost....slight froggish. So what I would do is really glam up those eyes. Do whatever you can to make them look bigger. Because if they look bigger, they will look less far apart.

 

 

You'd probably tell Gemma Ward her eyes were too far apart too. Using the word froggish? You're bordering on troll there, not constructive criticism at all.

 

 

As for the OP:

 

I shoot photography and see great potential in her features. She is clearly only wearing base or the lighting is truly horrific. These are bad pictures period, I hate cheap digital cameras because they make people look like the walking plague. Her nose looks bad to because she is talking the photo from an a low angle, its a rare person who looks good from that pov. She actually has a good nose, I know women who have paid to have a nose like that.

 

These pics aren't good because she is an average person who just doesn't know how to pose. Like the one guy mentioned he didn't like #2 and #3, I agree they don't do you justice. There are websites that give basic advice on posing for photos -you might benefit from them if you need to get some good photos.

 

You guys are being a bit extreme with the use of the word gaunt, she has good bone structure - I don't see sunken shadows on her cheeks. There are a lot of different makeup looks she could do well with. Now with the poor quality of the photos I can't really comment on your coloring - it might work well in natural light. But if you would say its representative I might suggest a different shade might benefit you; it couldn't hurt to look into it.

 

Remember this people - if you need to take a quick photo of yourself: take a photo by a window because natural light is your friend. A soft thin curtain also would help soften the light a bit. Heck even just going outside is better than taking a regular shot with a flash inside. Otherwise find a photog friend who has a killer lighting setup.

 

But remember - this is all subjective, superficial advice. Beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder. Since this is a dating advice site I'm going to assume you're looking for a guy/girl. Remember that the right one will find you perfect the way you are, everyone else is not supposed to want to sleep with you or want you. They're intended for others, I don't know why we forget this. So just focus on looking and being as a person a match for what you want to attract.

 

All of our advice is just that advice/opinions/b.s., etc. We could tell you do this and that and have you looking like a woman you don't even want to be, what good is that? Besides, celebrate your unique features - the current trend is starting to have women all look like plastic clones. These are the people who actually have a hard time seeing beauty in all its forms.

[Taramere]

Completely agree. If I felt that someone was average or unattractive, I would say it. She has good bone structure, well defined features and nice, large eyes. Saying that she's "below average" or "5" is a joke, frankly.

 

Those were the thoughts I had on seeing the photos. Large and well-shaped eyes, full and nicely shaped mouth, her bone structure is very good and she has symmetrical features.

 

Northern_sky...the only thing I'm curious about is why you need the opinions of a bunch of strangers on the Internet about your looks. You've got the kind of features that are generally deemed as being physically attractive. Is that what you're looking for confirmation of, or did you want to know what emotional response, if any, people would have to your pictures?

[OceanGirl]

 

I also want to make note of the fact that when asking about the attractiveness of any particular person, the level of attractiveness of the person you asked will play a huge role in the answers you get.

 

 

I have found this to be true as well.

[Sarah1977]

I guess the reason I sometimes feel that way is because guys never approach or ask me out.

 

 

When you say guys never ask you out, do you mean NO guys ask you out? Or do you mean guys that you're not personally attracted too never ask you out?

 

Because if you're not even being asked out by the unattractive guys, then it probably has less to do with your looks and more to do with your personality/approachability. Heck, even really ugly girls get asked out every now and again.

 

If you're just not getting asked out by the 'right' guys, that's a different story.

[TheMENemy]

I think you misread what he said.

 

Also sarah didn't list a single particular feature about OP that she found to be below average.

 

That means there are none.

[Tim The Enchanter]

I guess the reason I sometimes feel that way is because guys never approach or ask me out.

 

You don't strike me as the most outgoing and confident person. Maybe that is playing a factor?

[Tim The Enchanter]

Also sarah didn't list a single particular feature about OP that she found to be below average.

 

That means there are none.

 

I think she said something about her eyes being too far apart. For a cyclops, perhaps.

[northern_sky]

When you say guys never ask you out, do you mean NO guys ask you out? Or do you mean guys that you're not personally attracted too never ask you out?

 

Because if you're not even being asked out by the unattractive guys, then it probably has less to do with your looks and more to do with your personality/approachability. Heck, even really ugly girls get asked out every now and again.

 

If you're just not getting asked out by the 'right' guys, that's a different story.

 

No guys ask me out period. I guess the only exception is this one guy over 50 at my work who is married with kids and way below average.

[desertIslandCactus]

Another thing NS.. Assuming you weren't wearing much make-up in the pictures .. how beautiful are most women without makeup..

 

People have emailed me bunches of before-after pictures of the stars .. there's a world of difference..

[northern_sky]

I'm actually not upset about what Sarah said. I encouraged her to elaborate and she was hesitant. I appreciate her honesty.

[Sarah1977]

Also sarah didn't list a single particular feature about OP that she found to be below average.

 

That means there are none.

 

Well, no.

 

But then again, I didn't find a single feature of hers to be significantly above average either.

 

Which is why I called her average. She's dead center. Her features aren't ugly, but they're not amazingly super beautiful either.

 

To me, an attractive person would have to have features that are significantly better than the average.

 

Her lips are nice. But I can go to the mall, throw a brick, and hit 3 girls with STUNNING lips.

 

Her eyes are nice. But I can walk into a restaurant and probably pick out 4 girls with eyes that will knock my socks off.

 

Again, I don't think there is anything WRONG with her. I think she's more than capable of snaring a decent looking guy. But if you guys are saying she's hot enough to snag a Brad Pitt lookalike with a million dollars, I think you're just being silly.

 

I guess the answer (if you don't want to be called names or accused of being a troll) is to not comment on threads like this unless you're willing to lie or unless you sincerely believe the OP is attractive.

 

Sorry if I made anyone upset. Won't happen again.

[desertIslandCactus]

Again, I would like to see you enhance your eyes .. This would lift your face .. Also highlight your hair and maybe perk the style.

[Tim The Enchanter]

Another thing NS.. Assuming you weren't wearing much make-up in the pictures .. how beautiful are most women without makeup..

 

People have emailed me bunches of before-after pictures of the stars .. there's a world of difference..

 

Spot on. Look at all the celebrity gossip magazines with pictures of supposedly beautiful stars, caught when they have their guard down. Or just google "celebrities without makeup". The point is not that celebrities aren't as beautiful as we think they are, it's that no one is perfect and we all have times when we aren't looking our best.

 

I remember when Caprice (famous American model, lives in London) was on celebrity Big Brother and viewers seemed to be taken aback by the sight of her without makeup. This is someone that I regard as having a near flawless bone structure for a woman. She simply said "I know I'm ugly without makeup". Even supermodels have their off days.

[northern_sky]

Those were the thoughts I had on seeing the photos. Large and well-shaped eyes, full and nicely shaped mouth, her bone structure is very good and she has symmetrical features.

 

Northern_sky...the only thing I'm curious about is why you need the opinions of a bunch of strangers on the Internet about your looks. You've got the kind of features that are generally deemed as being physically attractive. Is that what you're looking for confirmation of, or did you want to know what emotional response, if any, people would have to your pictures?

 

I was looking for opinions on the purely physical. I wanted the opinions of strangers because I figure they'll be more objective, and I'm trying to understand why I have trouble getting male interest.