Disillusioned Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 "Pretty" and "ugly" are points of view, not absolute. Personally, I'd rather be with a homely "unattractive" woman who enjoys a lot of the same hobbies I do, rather than a mean-spirited "beauty" whose only pleasure comes from hurting others. Come to think of it, that's why I never had any celebrity crushes.
sanskrit Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 Maybe it's because I'm in a younger age group or something, no idea, but I seriously do not see that many overweight people at the nightspots I go to...infact, I see many gorgeous girls. It's a suburban/urban thing and a function of income level/social class in either. People tend to be more heavy in the suburban lower income areas and less so in high income city areas.
BS76 Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 I was with a large group this wekend to various lounges bars etc and was shocked at how much attention the females with us got wheter they were good looking or not they had numerous guys approach them in one night and hit on them I now understand why even average looking women have self inflated egos,theyre hit on cosntantly and i can see why it would be an ego boost I can also see why some Men on here in the average range of looks compalin that they find it harder and harder to find women on their level when women who are average as well are in such high demand and its such high competiton You can thank the obesity epidemic for that. The minority of women that aren't obese get so much more attention now as a result.
dispatch3d Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 blah I think this thread is doomed to spiral into a thing of bitterness. Yeah I agree some guys treat girls like queens. Really its their own loss and nothing I can really do about it. If you don't want to be extra nice to a girl noones stopping you. I doubt it'd get you anywhere either (que girl hate haha). as far as who is meaner than who meh I'd say girls can be pretty damn mean compared to us "overly nice" guys. Like think about when girls call a guy "creepy". I don't think there's even a male equivalent. Women probably think it's cool to discuss who the "creepy" guys are too, whereas if a guy friend of mine started telling me how "ugly" some chick is I'd want to exit the conversation.
PJKino Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 blah I think this thread is doomed to spiral into a thing of bitterness. Yeah I agree some guys treat girls like queens. Really its their own loss and nothing I can really do about it. If you don't want to be extra nice to a girl noones stopping you. I doubt it'd get you anywhere either (que girl hate haha). as far as who is meaner than who meh I'd say girls can be pretty damn mean compared to us "overly nice" guys. Like think about when girls call a guy "creepy". I don't think there's even a male equivalent. Women probably think it's cool to discuss who the "creepy" guys are too, whereas if a guy friend of mine started telling me how "ugly" some chick is I'd want to exit the conversation. If a unattractive guy approaches a women he usually automatically gets the "creepy" title allot of times I think women get more leeway to be mean and superfical then Men
Awesome Username Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 Was out last night also. In my locale at three different bar parties, about 40% of the women were morbidly obese, another 20% significantly overweight. I remember one group of five girls sitting next to each other on a ledge, an average looking girl and four truly gigantic women. Made the average girl look that much better. That kind of thing drives up the attention level towards average women even more. Maybe 10% of the guys at these bar parties were as big as 40% of the women. Wow! Where do you live?!
Knittress Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 as far as who is meaner than who meh I'd say girls can be pretty damn mean compared to us "overly nice" guys. Like think about when girls call a guy "creepy". I don't think there's even a male equivalent. Hmmm... what about 'clingy' or 'psycho?' You remember that Stacey character from Wayne's World? Haha, yeah.
Ruby Slippers Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 I agree that attracting men is not hard. But attracting a man you really want to be with is quite hard.
Woggle Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 To be fair really good looking men are treat the same way. Juiceheads get away with everything where I live.
AD1980 Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 Its insane guys will hit on any women that walks and isnt obese in some of these place i can see how these average women think they should hold out for a 10 when theyre treated like vip..
AD1980 Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 To be fair really good looking men are treat the same way. Juiceheads get away with everything where I live. I agree my friend whos good looking has women fanwing over him all the time and he treats women like sex objects has sex and leaves but hes so good looking they dont care they just want to be seen with him.. But i think the point of the thread is women dont evne have to be upper echeleon to get that type of treatemnt they just have to be not ugly and in some halfway decent shape where the average Male equivalent gets nowhere near that attention..
tincanman99 Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 To be fair really good looking men are treat the same way. Juiceheads get away with everything where I live. Dude, what do you expect at the Jersey shore. Its now been immortalized as the land of guidos/guidettes. You have to admit that down there the juice heads are literally everywhere.
bac Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 I was with a large group this wekend to various lounges bars etc and was shocked at how much attention the females with us got wheter they were good looking or not they had numerous guys approach them in one night and hit on them I now understand why even average looking women have self inflated egos,theyre hit on cosntantly and i can see why it would be an ego boost I can also see why some Men on here in the average range of looks compalin that they find it harder and harder to find women on their level when women who are average as well are in such high demand and its such high competiton From your post I can see that you are OK with hot women to be treated as mini celebrities. But, it hurts your feelings that average women get a lot of men's attention as well. In other words, you would want to be treated a mini selebrity yourself when you hit on the desperate average women. IMO, you might try to hit on very ugly women to get the best treatment possible because of their emotional desperation and sexual deprivation. Perhaps, they are going to worship you
Untouchable_Fire Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 If you'd never had any trouble getting women, you wouldn't be wondering why some average looking women have "inflated egos." Your whole post (and Sanskrit's comment) reek of bitterness. Are you crazy? I don't have any trouble getting dates myself, and I don't particularly disagree with OP. Because once you get one of these girls... you then have to date them. Which can be emotionally taxing, especially when she has an overinflated idea of how much attention and pampering she deserves. I would say that many average looking girls have self esteem issues but at the same time are used to having a good number of guys constantly fawn over them trying to get into their pants. The smart ones get it, and they develop varying ways to weed out the flatterers and dbags. Those girls are typically very intelligent and down to earth... also fairly rare. I can't even begin to stress how annoying it is when your dating a girl with low self esteem who is used to a high level of male attention. I know the whole "most American Women are terrible to date" thing has been beaten to death.... but it's just so darn true.
Woggle Posted November 1, 2010 Posted November 1, 2010 Dude, what do you expect at the Jersey shore. Its now been immortalized as the land of guidos/guidettes. You have to admit that down there the juice heads are literally everywhere. True but guidos get away with murder while somebody of another background will get thrown in jail
phineas Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 Are you crazy? I can't even begin to stress how annoying it is when your dating a girl with low self esteem who is used to a high level of male attention. Not sure how old you are, but i'm about to turn 39 & I feel like every attractive single woman I know over 37 is like this. They got men chasing after them all the time yet act like they don't know why because of some inconsequential flaw they think they have. I sometimes think it's just an act or **** test their giving me. LOL!
taiko Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 I was with a large group this wekend to various lounges bars etc and was shocked at how much attention the females with us got wheter they were good looking or not they had numerous guys approach them in one night and hit on them I now understand why even average looking women have self inflated egos,theyre hit on cosntantly and i can see why it would be an ego boost I can also see why some Men on here in the average range of looks compalin that they find it harder and harder to find women on their level when women who are average as well are in such high demand and its such high competiton Maybe because "average" women are all that are available as the exceptional women have been taken up by the rich, powerful and famous. And should an "above average" women be at an event i would suppose she is either recently separated with that baggage or she had a baby by her gangster boyfriend when she was 14 and he is due for parole from prison.
sagetalk Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 Technically, if the girl isn't overweight, she is above average physically. That's why these girls get so much attention. Times they are a changin'. And people (at least in America) are getting heavier. It makes the slimmer and fit girls move from average to super stardom. Get use to it until something in our eating habits change.
taiko Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 I't seems to be a big problem in the states. The thing is good looking women in US are few, the problem is obesity, I am fat and beautiful but not as beautiful as the health problems that come with it. So sum it up 20% of women that are good looking fit, and men compose like 80% of eligibility because women don't really care about looks. Have you seen that fat guy with that hot chick? It's probably me, no i guess I'm not that fat. Ok what is it 8 eligible men to 2 hot women, why isn't there war yet, wait there is.....and there's your stats. Why even pose a question. Yes, but to be fair they tend to have fat wallets as well as behinds.
good_vibes Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 Is this post for real? Maybe there are obese women where you are because you are looking in a bar. People are more likely to find me out on a trail, running or hiking, then sitting in a stupid bar. And I am definitely not obese and I am very good looking. And if there is some inference that there are more obese women out there than men, that's not true. I live in the Midwest and there's an entire selection of men I would NOT date. Not just based on looks but because it's unhealthy. I am not conceited btw, I am confident... so no, not every woman 37 and above have self-esteem issues.
ascendotum Posted November 2, 2010 Posted November 2, 2010 "I can't even begin to stress how annoying it is when your dating a girl with low self esteem who is used to a high level of male attention." "Not sure how old you are, but i'm about to turn 39 & I feel like every attractive single woman I know over 37 is like this. Same here, though IMO they generally don't act like they don't know. As others have commented, the women in question don't necessarily have to be pretty, just take care of their figure, and they know they are a hot commodity. (I guess it depend on how overweight the people in your region are). I've had conversations about dating with other guys (in their 30s/early 40s) regarding dating were this gripe comes up. Women (not saying all) that come off with attitude, but in actual fact turn out to have insecurity + esteem issues. Maybe it stems from having so many guys trying to get in their pants but at the same time not finding the guys they desire who want to stick around long term. Maybe its a mid 30s thing. IDK
Author SteveC80 Posted November 2, 2010 Author Posted November 2, 2010 "I can't even begin to stress how annoying it is when your dating a girl with low self esteem who is used to a high level of male attention." "Not sure how old you are, but i'm about to turn 39 & I feel like every attractive single woman I know over 37 is like this. Same here, though IMO they generally don't act like they don't know. As others have commented, the women in question don't necessarily have to be pretty, just take care of their figure, and they know they are a hot commodity. (I guess it depend on how overweight the people in your region are). I've had conversations about dating with other guys (in their 30s/early 40s) regarding dating were this gripe comes up. Women (not saying all) that come off with attitude, but in actual fact turn out to have insecurity + esteem issues. Maybe it stems from having so many guys trying to get in their pants but at the same time not finding the guys they desire who want to stick around long term. Maybe its a mid 30s thing. IDK Almost all women are overly self conscious and suffer from self esteem issues its a pain in the ass to deal with Though good looking women know theyre good looking and allot of times are just fishing for compliments
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