U1987 Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 (edited) Okay, so I want to meet girls on this online dating site who are 18-22 years old. In my last thread, I posted a bunch of messages I sent out to various profiles, but you all said they weren't good and they didn't get any responses (except for one, whom I've been emailing back and forth but has refused twice to meet up in person and doubt it is going to happen) Before I start a new round, I want to know what a good first message looks like specifically. Please don't be vague. If you were me, what would you write to these girls? The problem is that a lot of young girls profiles are really vague, superficial and even lacking in proper grammar. Here's an example of one I'm looking at right now. im really focused on school i love metal and alternative music if you know who a day to remember is than we most likely will get along i love tats and piercings im a sweetheart but i dont put up with or deal with drama This poorly-written run-on sentence is, sadly, pretty typical, but it's all I have to work with. So what can I do? What can I write to peak the interest of this girl? Or a girl like this? Edited October 25, 2010 by U1987
dispatch3d Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 here's two links: http://www.theattractionforums.com/online-game-ims/51945-cajuns-online-method-profiles-messaging-closing-techniques.html http://www.theattractionforums.com/online-game-ims/86123-illusive-passive-aggressive-online-game.html I think read the second one then the first one. Not sure. There's at least one good thread where a guy gives an example of how he regularly contacts girls in that age range. Thing is it's in his personality, and it's hard to duplicate what another guy does if that's the case.....
Author U1987 Posted October 25, 2010 Author Posted October 25, 2010 There isn't anything on those. Like I said, what is an exact, specific first message I should send? As an example, something I could copy here and paste there?
Surrealist Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 What about... 'Wanna ****?' Hey, it would soon sort out the girls who wanna **** as opposed to those looking to pressure their dates into a relationship before sex.
Author U1987 Posted October 25, 2010 Author Posted October 25, 2010 Tell me what you think about this message? A girl who's an EMT and in one of her pictures, is holding a black lab puppy. You're black lab is adorable. I actually had one until not too long ago. Funny thing is, I wasn't a "dog-person" until then. My family was actually "tricked" into adopting him. A couple of months ago, a woman put up a flier asking someone to take care of her dog while she went away for the weekend for $100. She dropped off the dog and never returned; the address and phone number she gave us was fake too! We couldn't believe we had a dog dumped on us, but we grew to love him eventually. Unfortunately, we were always out of the house to take care of him so we gave him to some friends. I still miss him to this day. The funniest was when he would roll and scratch his body on all the carpets whenever he got out of the shower. How do you juggle taking care of your dog and your job?I tried to employ a little story-telling like some other posters said, but is this a little too much?
Surrealist Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 I don't know, seriously your messages are competing against a lot of others so would it not be better to be more brief? That would be like reading war and peace for a woman who has to wade through dozens of messages every day - given that is what happens to good looking women apparently.
Author U1987 Posted October 25, 2010 Author Posted October 25, 2010 I don't know, seriously your messages are competing against a lot of others so would it not be better to be more brief? That would be like reading war and peace for a woman who has to wade through dozens of messages every day - given that is what happens to good looking women apparently. A lot of the guys on here hated my short brief first messages. That's why I'm asking for a specific example.
GooseChaser Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 I like that message you made about the dogs. I don't think it's too long, personally. Animals are a good topic of conversation, too.
dispatch3d Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 I like it. I'd have the question be something like: "What's the most fun you've had with your dog?" or "what do you like most about your dog? I loved the way mine blablabla". Basically ask a question that has to do with (1) her dog (2) her favourite x about it. That way she talks about something she's really interested in... A guy did this with me at a party and I was impressed. He asked me which course I liked the most in my degree, and we talked about that. Genius. If he just asked me about my degree, or whatever, I would have given him the same bland answer. I'm a dude, it's just general conversation skills....
nice-easy-day Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 I talked to a girl about this a long time ago. She tried online dating once and it was UNBELIEVABLE some of the stupid stuff guys say. She even knocked totally normal or nice things too. So I asked, what do you think they should say? She couldn't answer!!! The honest truth is it doesn't really matter what you say. Just don't say something really lame. That's it. She's going to look at your profile and if she is interested she'll get back to you. Not even Mark Twain would be able to change a girls mind if she has no interest in your profile.
Green Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Online dating isn't really the way to go if you want to get quality 18-22 year old girls. Just hit one women in the real world its actualy a lot easier and more sucsessful if you just get the balls to do it and try something.
Author U1987 Posted October 25, 2010 Author Posted October 25, 2010 I like that message you made about the dogs. I don't think it's too long, personally. Animals are a good topic of conversation, too. I went with that then. I sent that email to that particular. But like I said, what do you do with really vague, generic profiles? Believe it or not, I'm actually encountering quite a few girls who actually have nothing in their profiles except "email me and find out." How are you supposed to deal with that?
Author U1987 Posted October 25, 2010 Author Posted October 25, 2010 What do I say to a girl with THIS in her profile? Hey there..so idk wut to relli write in these things but here goes..im 20 i live by myself and work two jobs to try to support myself..i try to live my life to the fullest and make the best of everything although sometimes that isnt the easiest thing to do. I love meeting new people and am always will to talk. I love cars and im a certified auto mechanic i just graduated from XXXXXXXXXX =) If i sound at all intresting to you msg me..^.^
Green Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 What do I say to a girl with THIS in her profile? How about something that shows you took the time to read what she wrote... like "I'd like to feel you up to the fullest" you see its a play on what she wrote which also shows your intent to put your hands all over her body. Kinda hits to birds with one stone. Seriously though dude you are ignoring my advice about focusing on REAL LIFE when 18-22 year old girls are your focus. Are you in college? cause if you are then the campus is a really easy place to meet girls that age... even if ur not in college real life is the best way. By coming one here and over anylyzing sht you really put yourself at a disadvantage and a bad mind set. 1) don't rely on INTERNET DATING 2) DOn't overthink this sht just BE YOURSELF 3) TRY IN REAL LIFE!!! P.S. my internet msg "I'd like to feel you up to the fullest" has a good shot of working really
dispatch3d Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 the second article i posted was written by TrueStory. True story is a dating coach/guru in the dating scene. Basically take the guy you know with the best dating skills and multiple that but about 100. You will probably never meet someone as good as him. All the pedestaling of truestory aside, the guy said he'd lay about 5 in 100 girls. Get responses from 50 out of 100. I can't remember his date numbers, is it like 20? Anyhow, although I'm sure even he has room for improvement, with a 50% response rate a lot of them just aren't interested in meeting up. So I think you have to go into this with the opinion that most of them aren't going to respond regardless of how cool your first message is. Just further proof that it really isn't entirely your fault, so don't look at it this way. edit: with the illiterate mechanic talk about cars. Get it to a date as fast as possible...
Author U1987 Posted October 25, 2010 Author Posted October 25, 2010 edit: with the illiterate mechanic talk about cars. Get it to a date as fast as possible... What do I SPECIFICALLY say?! What is the EXACT first message that I send?! What words and in what order do I type on my keyboard? That's all I've been asking.
Green Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 What do I SPECIFICALLY say?! What is the EXACT first message that I send?! What words and in what order do I type on my keyboard? That's all I've been asking. This is actualy the secret msg you MUST send. Be sure to just copy and paste it so you don't screw it up. "Baa-ram-ewe. To your breed, your fleece, your clan be true. Sheep be true. Baa-ram-ewe." For the love of Mike why do you ignore my advice. Snap out of it man. What are you going to do if the girl msgs you back? You have to not overthink this, Just be yourself and write what comes to mind. And oh yeah don't care so much and don't rely on internet dating.
Star Gazer Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 There isn't anything on those. Like I said, what is an exact, specific first message I should send? As an example, something I could copy here and paste there? Using someone else's wording would be no different than posting someone else's picture. Use YOUR OWN words.
Green Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Using someone else's wording would be no different than posting someone else's picture. Use YOUR OWN words. thats a great idea for him. He should ask us what the best profile pic he should use next. (regaurdless of if its him or not)
GooseChaser Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 What do I say to a girl with THIS in her profile? "Hi, my name is ________, and your profile caught my eye, so I wanted to contact you. I would love to talk more and get to know you better. I see that you are a car mechanic. How did you get into cars? What is your favorite part about it?"
Tim The Enchanter Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Online dating isn't really the way to go if you want to get quality 18-22 year old girls. Just hit one women in the real world its actualy a lot easier and more sucsessful if you just get the balls to do it and try something. Totally agree. That's what university is for.
Tim The Enchanter Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 What do I SPECIFICALLY say?! What is the EXACT first message that I send?! What words and in what order do I type on my keyboard? That's all I've been asking. Think for yourself man! Do you want us to guide you through every single facet of your love life? Online dating is not rocket science, and there is no magic formula by which you will suddenly start attracting women by its means. Do you know what? It doesn't really matter what you send in a first message, although obviously you don't want it to be vulgar or derogatory (you'd be surprised, many men can't even figure that bit out). Get your profile sorted out - write an interesting, concise description of yourself and who or what you are looking for. Get your best photos of yourself and put them in your profile. That's what women will judge you by, not the email. It doesn't matter what you put in it, if they don't like the look of your profile. And if you have a great profile (i.e. you are handsome and fit and have great pictures) they will write back regardless.
Author U1987 Posted October 25, 2010 Author Posted October 25, 2010 Using someone else's wording would be no different than posting someone else's picture. Use YOUR OWN words. I just want a few specific examples so I know what format to use with specific types of girls. Why is that so much to ask for? If your not going answer, don't respond please.
Author U1987 Posted October 26, 2010 Author Posted October 26, 2010 Think for yourself man! Do you want us to guide you through every single facet of your love life? No. I only want an example of a good first message for an online dating site. So once again, what is an example of a good first message to send to a girl?
Star Gazer Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 I just want a few specific examples so I know what format to use with specific types of girls. Why is that so much to ask for? If your not going answer, don't respond please. Start with introducing yourself. Point out something you liked about her profile, and why. Then point out something you have in common, such as an activity you share, and ask her a question about it. Then tell her you would like to get to know her, and ask that she write back if she's interested. Then wish her a good day/evening.
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