bee55 Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 all religious beliefs was not come from nothing, as is well known, the mind is a driver of the body, and soul is a driver of mind, so where is soul placed? this is not my point now but where it may go after death as the body return to mud, the soul couldn't vanish on unknown way. so obviously it should go to its maker ( it couldn't come from unknown too). since the soul have a creator, so he must be explained the right ways and the wrong one. that is where is the beliefs of live after death come from. any more explain, further information, question, other opinion will be appriciated
Author bee55 Posted October 25, 2010 Author Posted October 25, 2010 so what is your thought about this topic? 1- do you belive there is no life after death? 2- if not, so what will heppen to soul after death need your answers
Trojan John Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Define "soul" and prove its existence empirically.
pureinheart Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 all religious beliefs was not come from nothing, as is well known, the mind is a driver of the body, and soul is a driver of mind, so where is soul placed? this is not my point now but where it may go after death as the body return to mud, the soul couldn't vanish on unknown way. so obviously it should go to its maker ( it couldn't come from unknown too). since the soul have a creator, so he must be explained the right ways and the wrong one. that is where is the beliefs of live after death come from. any more explain, further information, question, other opinion will be appriciated Hey Bee, I'm thinking English is your second language...my first and second...so you do much better than I:). I don't quite understand what you are really wanting, so if I am wrong, please correct me. I believe in life after death, and to make a real long story short..I will go to heaven and hang out with God, Angels and the others in heaven:)...I really can't wait to hang with the Prophets of the Old Testament...there is a lot for me to look forward to.
pureinheart Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Define "soul" and prove its existence empirically. TJ, didn't you ever watch Soul Train????? There's your proof right there!...just messin with you:love:...lol I don't even know what empirically means:eek:
sally4sara Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Your "soul" is your collection of memories. It is stored in your brain and kept a continuous stream of consciousness by way of the electricity running through you. Once you die, so does the stream of memories and the ability to store more memories. Think of it like a computer. A computer stores memory. If the hard drive that stored those memories burns out or is removed, the memories of that computer die. If your brain is damaged, you might lose abilities or memories and then part of who you are (and part of your "soul") is gone. When you die, it disappears completely. I know its hard to believe that the world will keep spinning after you blink out. But it does. Believing in a soul and an after life is how some people cope with knowing they will one day die and be gone forever.
desertIslandCactus Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Your "soul" is your collection of memories. It is stored in your brain and kept a continuous stream of consciousness by way of the electricity running through you. Once you die, so does the stream of memories and the ability to store more memories. Think of it like a computer. A computer stores memory. If the hard drive that stored those memories burns out or is removed, the memories of that computer die. If your brain is damaged, you might lose abilities or memories and then part of who you are (and part of your "soul") is gone. When you die, it disappears completely. I know its hard to believe that the world will keep spinning after you blink out. But it does. Believing in a soul and an after life is how some people cope with knowing they will one day die and be gone forever. Laugh of the day
Trojan John Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 TJ, didn't you ever watch Soul Train????? There's your proof right there!...just messin with you:love:...lol I don't even know what empirically means:eek: ...Now I can't stop watching these old Soul Train videos on YouTube.
Feelin Frisky Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 Your "soul" is your collection of memories. It is stored in your brain and kept a continuous stream of consciousness by way of the electricity running through you. Once you die, so does the stream of memories and the ability to store more memories. Think of it like a computer. A computer stores memory. If the hard drive that stored those memories burns out or is removed, the memories of that computer die. If your brain is damaged, you might lose abilities or memories and then part of who you are (and part of your "soul") is gone. When you die, it disappears completely. I know its hard to believe that the world will keep spinning after you blink out. But it does. Believing in a soul and an after life is how some people cope with knowing they will one day die and be gone forever. Pretty much. DIC thinks your assessment is funny. Apparently believing in something makes it so to the point where suggesting otherwise becomes hysterical.
Disillusioned Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 A person is defined by what they do, not what they say or believe.
skydiveaddict Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 When in doubt about the existence of the soul, always go with Pascal's Wager
Enema Posted October 29, 2010 Posted October 29, 2010 Ahhh Pascals Wager, one of the weakest reasons to be religious and the easiest to prove foolish.
loyd Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 so what is your thought about this topic? 1- do you belive there is no life after death? 2- if not, so what will heppen to soul after death need your answers Death is part of life!
aerogurl87 Posted November 5, 2010 Posted November 5, 2010 so what is your thought about this topic? 1- do you belive there is no life after death? 2- if not, so what will heppen to soul after death need your answers I was raised to believe that after you die, that's it, you no longer exist unless you are resurrected. I no longer believe this though and have come to the conclusion that a part of you does live on after death. I believe when I die God will remember me in his Book of Life and will resurrect me to heaven where I will receive the gift of everlasting life and live there in the presence of God until Armageddon.
Trojan John Posted November 6, 2010 Posted November 6, 2010 Yes I do believe in the religion and also read this famous quotes of Albert Einstein "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." I'd never heard about. There is really something which keeps watch on our every activity and care for us. He also wrote, "The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can change this."
Tayla Posted November 7, 2010 Posted November 7, 2010 I beleive...(wow what a statement a person can make and still have it challanged by intellect!). Come on folks...a belief is not ultimately grounded in intellectual and fact on paper results..it goes beyond that. If I say I beleive in Love and the right to express myself...who will challenge Love and who will challenge self expression?? I will say that I need to start smokin some good stuff if I ever come to the conclusion that the "spirit" is the memory bank of the brain! ....Hopefully this person is expressing there beleif...which I rarely challenge beliefs... But over all, yup I think animals have spirits and we are primates...so why not have a spirit....Besides I want to come back and haunt some family members...(Boo!) I do not beleive in heaven or heck though ...because as my grandma said...we are living in those states at any given moment here on earth....
Truthseeker-John Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) Your "soul" is your collection of memories. It is stored in your brain and kept a continuous stream of consciousness by way of the electricity running through you. Once you die, so does the stream of memories and the ability to store more memories. Think of it like a computer. A computer stores memory. If the hard drive that stored those memories burns out or is removed, the memories of that computer die. If your brain is damaged, you might lose abilities or memories and then part of who you are (and part of your "soul") is gone. When you die, it disappears completely. I used to think like you but now I don't think it does disappear, Sally. Ghosts are thought to be 'souls' but they very rarely appear naked. Do our clothes have our 'soul' as well? So I think that ghosts are memories by a Conscious Universe of a person that once existed - then it might be possible that a person is recreated from those memories. Edited November 9, 2010 by Truthseeker-John
Truthseeker-John Posted November 9, 2010 Posted November 9, 2010 (edited) Yes I do believe in the religion and also read this famous quotes of Albert Einstein "Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." ... It depends on what we mean by religion. To me religion means rules and doctrines and a means of the 'Elite' to control people's minds for their own agenda but for Albert, it apparently ment a conscious mind that is the cause of everything that exists. Edited November 9, 2010 by Truthseeker-John
Author bee55 Posted November 26, 2010 Author Posted November 26, 2010 Death is part of life! death is not part of life, but begin of real life
sally4sara Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 I used to think like you but now I don't think it does disappear, Sally. Ghosts are thought to be 'souls' but they very rarely appear naked. Do our clothes have our 'soul' as well? So I think that ghosts are memories by a Conscious Universe of a person that once existed - then it might be possible that a person is recreated from those memories. Never met a ghost that didn't become something else with the application of reason, science, or truth. Have YOU? This is a rhetorical question; I either wouldn't believe you or figure you saw something and assumed the rest without proof. Seriously. This is an anonymous board. So where are the people who have actually seen, beyond any shadow of a doubt, a ghost? With all the people who have lived an died, you'd think it would be more common place yeah? Ghosts are BS made up stories people tell in an attempt to be special without anything to show for it. I saw a ghost! Yeah, suuuurrre you did.
sally4sara Posted November 26, 2010 Posted November 26, 2010 If I say I beleive in Love and the right to express myself...who will challenge Love and who will challenge self expression?? If someone told you they loved to but you had no evidence they loved you, would you believe them? Self expression is challenged by everyone. Otherwise we would have no laws or need for justice. It would all be acts of self expression. Love is challenged by everyone. Otherwise we wouldn't have sites like this one with people conflicted over the behavior of people who claimed to love them. No one would ever say to another "you DON'T love me because....". Self expression and love are actions. We can prove and disprove actions.
theBrokenMuse Posted November 28, 2010 Posted November 28, 2010 but for Albert, it apparently ment a conscious mind that is the cause of everything that exists. Albert believed in the God of Spinoza.
theBrokenMuse Posted November 28, 2010 Posted November 28, 2010 death is not part of life, but begin of real life It is so sad that you see the life you have as a place to wipe your feet before entering a realm of existence that may entirely exist only in the human imagination.
shayan Posted January 10, 2011 Posted January 10, 2011 who is the driver of the mind something eternal. Something formless, something you wont fullly understand until you've moved on.
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