waynebrady Posted October 23, 2010 Posted October 23, 2010 I have seen alot of women say that they are traditional or old-fashioned and similar things. They think the man should make all the moves, take all the initiatives, put in all the effort etc etc... but to all "traditonal" women here, do you cook for your man? Clean the house, wash clothes, take care of kids? Stay at home? Those are all old-fashioned traditonal things women do you know... To me it seems women are only traditional when it's in their favor. I even bet most of these so called traditional women would get pissed off if they where asked to do all the cooking, and all the house chores and other traditional female roles while they have no problem demanding that the man initiates every contact, do all the chasing, pay for all dates, initiates every date and so on.
Tim The Enchanter Posted October 23, 2010 Posted October 23, 2010 I have seen alot of women say that they are traditional or old-fashioned and similar things. They think the man should make all the moves, take all the initiatives, put in all the effort etc etc... but to all "traditonal" women here, do you cook for your man? Clean the house, wash clothes, take care of kids? Stay at home? Those are all old-fashioned traditonal things women do you know... To me it seems women are only traditional when it's in their favor. I even bet most of these so called traditional women would get pissed off if they where asked to do all the cooking, and all the house chores and other traditional female roles while they have no problem demanding that the man initiates every contact, do all the chasing, pay for all dates, initiates every date and so on. Haha, you definitely have a point.
Knittress Posted October 23, 2010 Posted October 23, 2010 People need to figure out what balance works for them as a couple, and maybe re-negotiate from time to time.
Awesome Username Posted October 23, 2010 Posted October 23, 2010 I'm a rather traditional girl at heart. I'd say that if a man wanted to be similarly traditional; be the sole breadwinner of a family and take care of us in the future financially for a while, I would do all of that to be able to stay home with some young children and raise them correctly. That being said, it would take a long time to get to that point!
LucreziaBorgia Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 but to all "traditonal" women here, do you cook for your man? Clean the house, wash clothes, take care of kids? Stay at home? I do these things (when the 'man' lets me in the kitchen, anyway - he loves to cook and prefers to do it). I wish I could afford to stay at home. I want to be a 'stay at home mom' when this baby comes, and run/maintain the household but I don't know that we will be able to swing it financially for me to be able to stay home full time. I'm hoping so! I want to live like my grandmother did: keep a garden, run the home, raise the kids, etc. I can thank the feminist movement for making that a choice for me and others like me instead of an obligation.
Hopeful30 Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 Of course I cook and clean for him!! The man doesn't only have to initiate when you first meet, he needs to make the money! He brings home the bacon, I cook it Its teamwork, but most people don't see it that way because women have become lazy. He keeps me warm at night, treats me well, brings home the bacon then I cook for him, clean for him, and make sure he has fresh bedsheets to rest when he comes home tired from work
BlackLovely Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 Excellent post, my friend. As a woman, I get annoyed with those who call themselves feminists, yet want a man to pay for dates! I am a mix of traditional and non traditional. I have my husband's surname by choice. I am the cook and we share other chores. All of this is because I love my husband and making sure he has a hot meal is one way I show love. Both men and women need to be prepared to give and take in a relationship.
Eclypse Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 My girlfriend is pretty traditional. She likes it when I sweep her off her feet (literally). She reaaaally loves it when I grab her and throw her on the bed, or when I hold her tight. I only realised it after a while but when we go out on dates she likes to hold my arm. She says I make her feel all warm and fuzzy and feminine when I act all "manly" When we get a house she said she wants to do the cooking and cleaning. My job is to weed / mow the garden, work on the cars, fix the electrical appliances, reach the high shelves and open jars (all the manly jobs) Being traditional isn't bad. As long as you respect each other, and that's what we have. In the end most relationships won't be black or white like that. I can already see myself doing stuff like vacuuming or cooking dinner quite often (I love cooking). Hopefully she'll want to change the oil in the cars from time to time too Just find something that makes you happy:)
Els Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Certainly, whichever party (be it male or female) who insists on carrying out traditional gender roles should carry out their own too - the bad as well as the good. Using gender to their advantage isn't solely the domain of women. Back where I used to come from, an urban, industrialized third-world country, both men and women had to work full-time and contribute equally to family income, because one income simply wasn't enough. Yet society hadn't broken out of traditional molds enough for cooking, cleaning, and childraising to be considered the man's responsibility as well as the women's. As a result, most women had to work fulltime alongside their men, but come home to take care of their child, do housework, and run errands, whereas the men mostly enjoyed themselves watching TV or drinking with friends during their free time. And they wondered why the majority of men in my home country disgusted me. Fortunately I'm well on my way out of there.
FearandLoathing Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 I'm pretty traditional deep down inside I mean, I initiated things with my current boyfriend and I don't expect him to pay for everything or do everything for me but I love to do things for him like cook and clean and whatever else. If we had kids I'd love to stay home and care for them I like the idea of family and tradition, even though it's not really common these days and difficult to maintain
Untouchable_Fire Posted October 25, 2010 Posted October 25, 2010 Lol, originally I came from a different country and I honestly feel kind of sorry for today's American men. In this country, I notice that generally the women DEMAND men to possess all the gentlemanly attributes of 19th century men yet at the same time refuse to conform to the traditional attributes expected of ladies in the same era. They dont obey their men, dont cook, dont clean, dont stay home instead of stealing men's jobs, dont refrain themselves from talking to other men, etc. Very few American women are actual feminists. Most just wanna have the cake and eat it too. Hahaha. I'd say the biggest issue with American women is that they cheat like crazy. If adultery were an Olympic Sport... American women would absolutely dominate the gold medals.
Els Posted October 26, 2010 Posted October 26, 2010 To be honest, my impression of Americans was that in most families, women still do more of the housework than the men do (although not to the degree seen in Asian countries). I could be wrong, though.
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