classof2014 Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 Is seems like many (if not most) American women like to control relationships and because many american guys are weak beta males that have no balls (pun intended), these guys allow women to walk all over them in exchange for occasional sex. Do you agree?
Andy_K Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 This is the second thread you've made today saying basically the same thing. I think you have a little something on your shoulder...
denise_xo Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 This is the second thread you've made today saying basically the same thing. I think you have a little something on your shoulder... It's called a troll.
waynebrady Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 Nah... Men initiates everything and put in all the effort in relationships. Women never initate anything in relationship so I'd say that if anything, relationships are male led.
Woggle Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 Sadly these days they are. A lot of men I know are slaves to their wives and girlfriend's insatiable demands.
Cracker Jack Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 That's a lot of generalizing you're doing there, guy.
flying Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 Nah... Men initiates everything and put in all the effort in relationships. Women never initate anything in relationship so I'd say that if anything, relationships are male led. You and the OP are kind of like the yin and yang of cluelessness.
GorillaTheater Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 You and the OP are kind of like the yin and yang of cluelessness. I am so stealing this line.
laRubiaBonita Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 Is seems like many (if not most) American women like to control relationships and because many american guys are weak beta males that have no balls (pun intended), these guys allow women to walk all over them in exchange for occasional sex. Do you agree? it would seem that those men are lucky to be in any type of relationship at all if they are gutless, ball-less betas.
daphne Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 You and the OP are kind of like the yin and yang of cluelessness. Sometimes you make me giggle flying
Titania22 Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 Is seems like many (if not most) American women like to control relationships and because many american guys are weak beta males that have no balls (pun intended), these guys allow women to walk all over them in exchange for occasional sex. Do you agree? Sadly these days they are. A lot of men I know are slaves to their wives and girlfriend's insatiable demands. Wow, looks like I got to find me an american man. I like the idea of having a man who wants to satisfy to "insatiable demands" for sex. Thanks Guys for the heads up. And I love the accents to.
somedude81 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Totally agree. Women decide if and when a relationship will happen. They also decide if and when it will end. 70% of all divorces are initiated by the woman...
aerogurl87 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Is seems like many (if not most) American women like to control relationships and because many american guys are weak beta males that have no balls (pun intended), these guys allow women to walk all over them in exchange for occasional sex. Do you agree? Hell yeah my relationship is female led, although the sex is only occasional due to the geographical obstacle between us at the moment. I love femdom.
paleblue Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 can't speak for everyone, all i can tell you is, i do not agree.
tinktronik Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 it would seem that those men are lucky to be in any type of relationship at all if they are gutless, ball-less betas. I second that. However, the men whining about women taking over and most men being gutless, ball-less betas don't sound like alpha males, they sound like gutless, ball-less betas with nothing better to do than complain about the way they perceive something working that they don't have at all. Relationships vary people, some are male led, some female, some relationships are led by the spoiled teenage children the man and woman made.
phineas Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Totally agree. Women decide if and when a relationship will happen. They also decide if and when it will end. I have a slightly different perspective. Lets assume me the man wants the woman because otherwise I wouldn't even be giving the woman the time of day. She knows this. So it's up to her to now decide if she is going to green light me. She may make me chase her a little & withhold sex for a little to make sure i'm not the hit-it & quit-it type. Now, if the woman is foolish enough to mistake my desire for desperation & try to use sex as a tool instead of a "quality time activity" i'll walk out her door, go home, stretch out on my couch with a beer and enjoy Sports or something on SCI-FI. I never speak to said woman again. Life is good.
somedude81 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Men who can walk away are rare. Even then, she makes most of the decisions. The man can just react.
Taramere Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Is seems like many (if not most) American women like to control relationships and because many american guys are weak beta males that have no balls (pun intended), these guys allow women to walk all over them in exchange for occasional sex. Do you agree? I think recessions can cause virility problems resulting at times in overt but unconvincing displays of machismo which can provoke a derisive reaction from the female of the species. This is most unfortunate in that it only compounds problems. I do agree that women have a responsibility to be particularly sensitive towards men in the current climate. As far as helping you to feel more manly goes, I think it would be helpful to examine studies looking at how some men regained their sense of manliness back in the 1980s when the economic climate was also a testing one.
threebyfate Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 I think recessions can cause virility problems resulting at times in overt but unconvincing displays of machismo which can provoke a derisive reaction from the female of the species. This is most unfortunate in that it only compounds problems. I do agree that women have a responsibility to be particularly sensitive towards men in the current climate. As far as helping you to feel more manly goes, I think it would be helpful to examine studies looking at how some men regained their sense of manliness back in the 1980s when the economic climate was also a testing one. Great post and link, Taramere!
flying Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 I think recessions can cause virility problems resulting at times in overt but unconvincing displays of machismo which can provoke a derisive reaction from the female of the species. This is most unfortunate in that it only compounds problems. I do agree that women have a responsibility to be particularly sensitive towards men in the current climate. As far as helping you to feel more manly goes, I think it would be helpful to examine studies looking at how some men regained their sense of manliness back in the 1980s when the economic climate was also a testing one. Georgerolling!!!
Taramere Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Great post and link, Taramere! Thanks, TBF. Georgerolling!!! He wrote a lot of heartfelt guidance for men, back in the 1980s, with regard to the problems women can create and how best to deal with us.
Woggle Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Bad economic times certainly don't help a man's pride but that is only part of it. There are men who have liven in working class or poor conditions their entire life and still conduct themselves with pride and dignity. Maybe living on the margins of society has allowed them to escape feminization. My old friends who were right there struggling with me have more balls than most of the yuppies I work with combined. It's the yuppie men with nice houses in the suburbs that are under their wives thumbs and are getting cheated on left and right.
callingyouuu Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Men who can walk away are rare. When you think about it, it's actually really easy. All you have to do is value your own well-being enough to trim out the BS from your life. When you think about walking away in terms of getting rid of something rather than losing something, it's not that difficult. You just...walk away. Even then, she makes most of the decisions. The man can just react. Again, I still think we can still choose how we want to be treated. Women tend to make most of the decisions when they are allowed to make most of the decisions, usually by withholding something to gain your compliance. You can choose to wait for her to make her move before you make yours, or just beat her to the punch and see how she responds. There's no rule that says that we can't decide things. It's just our own fear of doing something "wrong" that prevents us from leading relationships, which ironically makes women even less attracted to us. That said, female-led relationships work for a lot of couples. If it's not working for you, then do something about it and find someone who's compatible with whatever you're looking for. You just have to be honest with yourself.
somedude81 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 That said, female-led relationships work for a lot of couples. If it's not working for you, then do something about it and find someone who's compatible with whatever you're looking for. You just have to be honest with yourself. Heh, they don't work for me because no girl would let me date her...
carhill Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Are most relationships female led? Apparently, not all.
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