Porn

[You Go Girl]

However,common sense to say nothing of basic kindness would dictate making darn sure our computer history was kept clear after such a session ..that is.. if you'd like to remain in a happy marriage.

 

OP your husband makes zero attempts to really effectively keep his viewing materials private in spite of knowing this issue bothers you, have you stopped to think that perhaps he's really not happy being married or with being a new father? Rather than directly confronting those issues with you, he makes sure you can easily stumble onto his porn, perhaps hoping you'll be the bad guy and end the marriage?

 

Whew. You're serious about that view?

Well why not extend it to an affair then? I mean, if one uses common sense and basic kindness and covers their tracks, what the wife doesn't know doesn't hurt them, right? No harm done if one removes all evidence?

 

I see this as flawed logic.

Sneaking, hiding, lying, all bad traits.

The WHOLE point of being married, at least for me, is honest open intimacy.

I can find someone to hide things from me on any street corner, why marry them?

[soserious1]

Whew. You're serious about that view?

Well why not extend it to an affair then? I mean, if one uses common sense and basic kindness and covers their tracks, what the wife doesn't know doesn't hurt them, right? No harm done if one removes all evidence?

 

I see this as flawed logic.

Sneaking, hiding, lying, all bad traits.

The WHOLE point of being married, at least for me, is honest open intimacy.

I can find someone to hide things from me on any street corner, why marry them?

 

A lot of married couples go round and round on the porn issue, unable to reach a compromise that doesn't leave one of them feeling like crap, many such couples simply accept that this is a problem they aren't able to solve.They finally settle on an uneasy truce regarding porn, she doesn't ask him about it anymore, he doesn't tell & he makes sure to either clear the browser history or password protect his log on acct on a shared computer.

 

The OP's husband really makes no effort to keep his viewing materials private I'm wondering if perhaps he's really not keen on remaining married and hopes if he pushes things enough she'll call it quits.

Edited October 22, 2010 by soserious1

[You Go Girl]

The OP's husband really makes no effort to keep his viewing materials private I'm wondering if perhaps he's really not keen on remaining married and hopes if he pushes things enough she'll call it quits.

 

And a lot more men will call their wife's bluff on leaving the marriage over this issue, which is perhaps why he didn't hide it, believing it could never be enough for a wife to leave, when it definitely can be.

[soserious1]

And a lot more men will call their wife's bluff on leaving the marriage over this issue, which is perhaps why he didn't hide it, believing it could never be enough for a wife to leave, when it definitely can be.

 

I'm totally in support of the idea that one cannot legislate the thoughts of another nor should one try to legislate what another person reads or browses

on the Internet. All that said,I'm also in support of the idea that if issues related to porn in a relationship can't be worked out & the hurt person doesn't feel they can cheerfully live with things as they are forever, then leaving is a total valid option. Not controlling another person's sexual boundaries going both ways fairness thinking here.

[crazycatlady]

But see, this is why you are still married after 23 years. You don't have the entitled arrogant attitude.

Are women bothered by men's visual nature? No, no more so than men are bothered by women's visual nature. I think the whole idea that men are "more visual" was created by those in the porn industry. Women are very visual creatures also, however, there is the very big difference in that as teenage girls entering puberty, girls are not given a magazine and told it's standard to use the visual of naked men as an aid in masturbation. This is just a double standard, and something that has evolved to the point of being culturally accepted by many, and expected by many also.

Culturally, boys don't talk much about how they have a huge crush, they don't talk about the emotional side of attraction as much, but instead talk about how "hot" a girl is, because talking about the emotional side is considered weak and breaks the rules.

Culturally, girls don't have porn magazines handed to them, nor encouraged to objectify as much, although somewhat with cute movie stars or musicians. Girls talk about their crushes in relation to their emotional side, not their physical side, and it is not considered weak.

 

Even so, with these cultural differences, hopefully most men grow up and assume a role situable for being a husband. This definitely includes setting aside this childish sneaky business with porn, and stepping up to the plate to be worthy of being called a gentleman, but this last part is definitely my personal standard. Others opinions obviously differ, but I think this is what many women are asking for when they object.

 

Girls might not be given magazines but they are given romance books. Which are just as harming as porn magazines, but that's a whole other topic.

 

However I don't think porn magazines is all that harming.

 

Yes some people will become addicted. I think its fairly rare. I know people who have dealt with it, who tried to engage their spouses only to be rejected time and time again, or they will start and have their spouse stop and go find some porn to finish with. Its heart breaking.

 

However, I read the story, what I see is a guy going finally can get internet connection because the wife's in the hospital. Porn just happens to be a part of what one can do on line. And yeah he looked at porn. Come on, if she's been giving it up as much as she says she has been then he's use to the release.

 

I know someone who complains her husband's porn use....you know why? Because she isn't controling his sexual release. She complains about his masturbating. Tells him not to do it. And when she talked to me about it, sounded a lot like this woman here. But she also admitted she uses sex to control him and to give her the power in the relationship.

 

Not saying the OP is doing this, but....there is a familiar ring to her words.

 

It truly does not seem like he has an addiction. It does seem like they have a power struggle in their relationship. He should not have gotten internet like that. She should not have tried to control him like a mother. But she didn't ever say he was neglecting her for porn. She was only mad at him about the hospital thing because she came home and found out. She didn't say she had a problem while in hospital.

 

This is something that maybe should have been explored before hand. Not all men are into porn, those who enjoy it are not going to understand those women who find it totally objectionable. And those who find it totally objectionable will never understand that sometimes it feels good to take things in hand, look at a little porn while doing it.

 

Hiding it doesn't make someone an addict. The couple I know that I mentioned before, he hides his porn, he hides his masturbation and the minute she is out of the house, he has marathon sessions of both. He would rather it be her - let me restate that, he once would rather it have been her - but that's out of the question. And yet she could come in here and write almost that same tirade and he would be the one with the problem.

[on a learning curve]

Oh geesh, we have no idea what goes on in their marriage. The man is using porn to get off - so what?

 

OP- Talk to your husband without judgement, and hear what he says. It's really not such a big deal. Honestly, relax.

[dreamingoftigers]

OP I hope that things are going a little better for you.

[Ella whispers]

You just said a male friend of yours in addicted. Then you went on to say, "that its sad that his wife neglects his needs and then blames him for being perverted." Then you said "When addictions impede normal daily functions then its a problem."

 

So did he have the problem before he knew her? Maybe he brought it to the relationship? Maybe his addiction is WHY she doesn't have sex with him? Or are you saying she neglected him first, then thats why he turned to porn and it became an addiction? Addiction does NOT just effect the person who is addicted.

 

I guess it could be a which came first scenerio, the chicken or the egg, but bottom line, there is a problem no matter where is started first, addictions need to be addressed.

 

My friend is addicted to watching porn. He said that he watched it sometimes when he was single but never like he does now until his wife decided that after they had a baby there was no "need for sex for her so he can suffer" those are her words and I'm pretty sure she's eating them. She brought the issue on by not making sure his needs were met. I agree that addiction hurts everyone within range. The OP is still active w/ her husband so I'm not sure what that situation is. You can't get AIDS from a dvd or magazine though, I'd be more concerned with that.

[dreamingoftigers]

My friend is addicted to watching porn. He said that he watched it sometimes when he was single but never like he does now until his wife decided that after they had a baby there was no "need for sex for her so he can suffer" those are her words and I'm pretty sure she's eating them. She brought the issue on by not making sure his needs were met. I agree that addiction hurts everyone within range. The OP is still active w/ her husband so I'm not sure what that situation is. You can't get AIDS from a dvd or magazine though, I'd be more concerned with that.

 

How do you know that he is addicted and not just substituting for sex?

 

There is a big difference. The whole thing does sound pretty dysfunctional.

[emmalee]

A lot of married couples go round and round on the porn issue, unable to reach a compromise that doesn't leave one of them feeling like crap, many such couples simply accept that this is a problem they aren't able to solve.They finally settle on an uneasy truce regarding porn, she doesn't ask him about it anymore, he doesn't tell & he makes sure to either clear the browser history or password protect his log on acct on a shared computer.

 

The OP's husband really makes no effort to keep his viewing materials private I'm wondering if perhaps he's really not keen on remaining married and hopes if he pushes things enough she'll call it quits.

 

mmm..no.

 

He does make an effort to keep his 'materials' out of my sight.

That's the whole problem!

I dont want him looking at it, for many reasons, which he is well aware of.

The thing that makes me so angry & hurt is that he ignores that & hides porn from me.

He knows how angry I would be if I found it, yet he still takes that risk.

If he was waiting around for me to call it quits, wouldnt it be quicker to have the porn use right in front of me? Leave 'evidence' everywhere?

 

No, he goes to great measure to hide it well.

That tells me that porn means something to him, he wants it so bad...why?

[emmalee]

Girls might not be given magazines but they are given romance books. Which are just as harming as porn magazines, but that's a whole other topic.

 

However I don't think porn magazines is all that harming.

 

Yes some people will become addicted. I think its fairly rare. I know people who have dealt with it, who tried to engage their spouses only to be rejected time and time again, or they will start and have their spouse stop and go find some porn to finish with. Its heart breaking.

 

However, I read the story, what I see is a guy going finally can get internet connection because the wife's in the hospital. Porn just happens to be a part of what one can do on line. And yeah he looked at porn. Come on, if she's been giving it up as much as she says she has been then he's use to the release.

 

I know someone who complains her husband's porn use....you know why? Because she isn't controling his sexual release. She complains about his masturbating. Tells him not to do it. And when she talked to me about it, sounded a lot like this woman here. But she also admitted she uses sex to control him and to give her the power in the relationship.

 

Not saying the OP is doing this, but....there is a familiar ring to her words.

 

It truly does not seem like he has an addiction. It does seem like they have a power struggle in their relationship. He should not have gotten internet like that. She should not have tried to control him like a mother. But she didn't ever say he was neglecting her for porn. She was only mad at him about the hospital thing because she came home and found out. She didn't say she had a problem while in hospital.

 

This is something that maybe should have been explored before hand. Not all men are into porn, those who enjoy it are not going to understand those women who find it totally objectionable. And those who find it totally objectionable will never understand that sometimes it feels good to take things in hand, look at a little porn while doing it.

 

Hiding it doesn't make someone an addict. The couple I know that I mentioned before, he hides his porn, he hides his masturbation and the minute she is out of the house, he has marathon sessions of both. He would rather it be her - let me restate that, he once would rather it have been her - but that's out of the question. And yet she could come in here and write almost that same tirade and he would be the one with the problem.

 

 

Wow, this is the post I think that really gets the situation...

I do want to control his sexual release, I want all his orgasms with me

 

I don't know why though? I feel so jealous when he looks at porn instead of me, its essentially another woman.

[pureinheart]

I have written half a novel here venting my feelings..(sorry in advance for spelling mishaps)

Please help I need some helpful opinions...

 

I have been with my partner for a year, known him for 4, and we have a 4 month old son together.

 

Porn was first brought into my relationship by my boyfriend. He came home when I was about 6 months pregnant and pulled out a handful of dvds.

Look, he says, what a bargain 7 for $50!

 

I am silent. I don't really know how I feel. But later that night when he tries to get us to watch them, I realize I don't like it.

I tell him this, I tell him I don't want him staring at some other girl while he has sex with me.

After all our sex life was fine, I may have been getting larger as I was pregnant, but it was good. Sex every day, and oral for both of us.

 

So the dvds go in the bin, and all is well again.

 

Around 2 months later I am in crazy cleaning pregnant mode and decide to clean on top of the very top kitchen cuboards.

I find a brown paper bag with about 8 porn dvds in it.

My heart stops. I feel like I have been stabbed. I have this overwelming feeling of betrayal.

I don't know how to confront him about it, so I don't. But I take all the dvds out of the cases and leave the cases where they were. So he will know I know.

 

I start to wonder when he was looking at these. We leave for work together and I get home an hour before him. We have weekends off together. He is pretty much never home alone.

Then I realise.

He would drop me off at work, come home, jerk to his porn, then go to work.

The fact he goes to this much effort angers me even more.

 

A week goes by and he doesnt mention anything. He brings up the topic of us getting the internet connected.

I say, you just want to look at porn.

We have a mini convo about it then he goes silent.

He then says, you found the other stuff, and smiles smugly.

What stuff I say..

And that was the end of the discussion.

 

Next he decides to buy a new phone, although there is nothing wrong with his old one, except it was a bit out dated.

On the box of his new phone it says: High speed connectivity to internet.

 

Then I realise. I look in the history and sure enough PORN.

This time I confront him in a rage. Sure I was 9 months pregnant, but I was very very willing to have sex. Why did he need porn.

By the way, the viewing of this porn happened at night, after I was asleep. After we had sex. When I thought he was sleeping.

 

His response to my confrontation is...oh I didn't know it bothered you so much. You weren't around, so, you know...and I wont do it anymore...

 

I watch him like a hawk now, always knowing where his phone is as I go to sleep..

Weeks pass and I am now in hospital, an hour after giving birth.

My partner says, Im going home to shower be back soon...(we had just been there for 21hrs)

So he leaves at 1:30, an hour after our son was born.

I stayed in hospital for a week, and he stayed with me 2 of the 7 nights. There was a whole bed just for him. I wondered why he would want to drive 45mins home instead of staying..

 

Then I get home. On my laptop it says there is a new program installed. I ask him what it is and he says nothing before admitting he got the internet. Once again I get the heart stop betrayed feeling.

 

The next day I find the receipt for the internet USB...it was the day my son was born, and only 30 mins after he left the hospital that day.

I am hurt once again...

 

A few minor porn/masturbation issues have cropped up since then(I could write forever) but my parntner has always maintained: I dont have any porn hidden anywhere, I promise, your all the porn I need.

 

 

But the most recent one happened today

I was saving a pic of a website and I saw in recent items: bateman.and.the.knight

I thought to myself bateman?

I remembered how he said his brother hid porn under movie titles his girlfriend would never watch.

 

I rush to get his hard drive and look up bateman

 

sure enough there's porn.

 

I feel SO hurt, like I am being stabbed in the heart. I burst into tears and call him, yell and hang up before I hear his response.

I throw his hard drive as hard as I can into the wall, smashing it.

 

I pack me and my son up and go to my parents.

 

So thats everything up until now.

 

I feel so depressed, I love him I really do despite it all.

I am mad at myself for loving him.

I want to hate him I want to forget him.

 

I am sooooo angry. why why why why did he do this

I remember back to all the times when we refused to go places with me..I would say to him your going to look at porn, he would swear he wouldn't, he would say take the internet with you

So I would, and I would come home happy thinking he hadn't done it...

When all along I was being played for a fool...

 

Someone please help..what do I do?

I made an appoitment with a sex therapist tomorrow, I want to tell her all of this and see if I am being irrational...

 

Whats your opinion??

 

Wow Emmalle...I was so afraid to read your OP because I thought it was another post advocating porn.

 

I hate porn. Porn destroyes lives worse than anything I've ever known. To me it's the worst kind of betrayal and in some cases can lead to EMA's.

 

My last exH (I have been M 4 times and D all of them due to EMA and porn) spent tens of thousands of dollars on strip clubs and prostitution. I was devastated and tried to make it work, but he was too far gone and I was unable to handle it.

 

I know and understand every feeling you've described.

 

Many people nowadays will tell you you are over reacting, I do not agree, porn is not ok and if you were to get into what finances child porn and what goes on there it would make you sick.

 

I see nothing different in an EMA and porn.

 

I did quite a bit of research concerning the addiction and what goes on in the mind of one who is addicted...also the agenda behind strippers and prostitution, and actually the strippers are worse according to my research...the majority of strippers hate men and that is a way to control them and get their money (the strippers interviewed communicated these things). It's not always the girl putting herself through school and raising a kid...there are better ways to make money.

 

I have only read your OP and have not read any of the replies except for Fouts of which I felt was very caring (which is normal for Fouts:)).

 

No matter what anyone says, it's not ok.

 

I have always felt and said that if my partner needed porn, then he doesn't need me, and then I'm gone.

 

I really believe it's an addiction

[pureinheart]

Wow, this is the post I think that really gets the situation...

I do want to control his sexual release, I want all his orgasms with me

 

I don't know why though? I feel so jealous when he looks at porn instead of me, its essentially another woman.

 

There's nothing wrong with that....bold..it is another woman

[dreamingoftigers]

There's nothing wrong with that....bold..it is another woman

 

My god, it is so many other women, why don't they get this?

 

How would those same guys feel about coming home to their gf/wife kissing and cuddling another guy on the couch. It isn't sex right? So what's the problem. How can they be so thick?

[turnstone]

I think it boils down to sex being an integral part of love for a woman. On the whole women don't separate the two, which is why so many NSA affairs end so badly for them and why they get so bent out of shape about their male partner finding other women sexually attractive. Men, as a generalisation, don't need to feel anything for a woman in order to get turned on by her and just because he gets turned on by her, doesn't mean he wants to share anything with her, even his dick. He's fine just using her image to have an orgasm.

 

It doesn't detract from the way he feels about his girlfriend/wife/SO, but the way she handles it, might.

[waynebrady]

Men only look at porn because they don't get enough sex from their SO. If he was satisfied by you then he wouldn't need to watch porn I think it's a man's right to take care of himself if his wife or girlfriend doesn't want to have sex with him. Unlike women who can go years without sex, most men need to get off usually atleast once a day and if he doesn't get any sex from you then what is he supposed to do? Women don't seem to be able to understand that men have much much higher sex drives and can't go weeks or months without sex or masturbating, like women. Offcourse though it shouldn't be excessive which I'm shure can happen. But looking at porn like once a day or a few times a week is fully normal for men.

[dreamingoftigers]

Men only look at porn because they don't get enough sex from their SO. If he was satisfied by you then he wouldn't need to watch porn I think it's a man's right to take care of himself if his wife or girlfriend doesn't want to have sex with him. Unlike women who can go years without sex, most men need to get off usually atleast once a day and if he doesn't get any sex from you then what is he supposed to do? Women don't seem to be able to understand that men have much much higher sex drives and can't go weeks or months without sex or masturbating, like women. Offcourse though it shouldn't be excessive which I'm shure can happen. But looking at porn like once a day or a few times a week is fully normal for men.

 

Years, try decades... don't you know only 5% of women in the world are sexually active at this very moment and 85% of them are prostitutes and porn stars, the rest are wives who have already faked "the headache" four times this week.

 

As soon as I saw who wrote the above post, I pretty much knew where we were going.

[Floridaman]

Yeah, while you're lying in a hospital bed, stretched out,scarred, leaking from every orifice after childbirth it's a really comfort to know your husband hurried home so that he could clean his eyes out with some porn women.

 

I personally think monogamy is a farce, the idea that as long as we don't actually touch another person that we deserve a cookie for being "faithful"

is pretty insulting. Why not just admit that we hunger to be sexual with other people, that over time the thought of having sex with our spouses is about as exciting as cleaning the toilet.. why not end the sham that is monogamy?

More positive thoughts here.

The OP's hubby is a real piece of work.

 

I'm sure both spouses often "daydream" and fantasize about other people or former BFs/GFs. I know I do.

 

I reluctantly admit I view porn but would never use it as a substitute. When you have the real thing, why go elsewhere?

I would delete all my pictures just to be intimate - in any form - with my wife once a week, heck, once a month.

 

It doesn't help when one spouse turns off the spigot. Great way to encourage loyalty and happiness in a so-called "marriage."

[LiveWell]

Years, try decades... don't you know only 5% of women in the world are sexually active at this very moment and 85% of them are prostitutes and porn stars, the rest are wives who have already faked "the headache" four times this week.

 

As soon as I saw who wrote the above post, I pretty much knew where we were going.

 

dreaming of tigers,

 

IMO, your response to waynebrady is completely unfair.

 

IME he is making a very legitimate point, if I may spin off on it, which is that men don't look at porn and/or masturbate with the purpose of "hurting" their women or causing them harm. The purpose of using porn and masturbating is to get sexual relief from very real tension that builds up. I don't know if I'd agree it needs to be daily for EVERYONE but certainly FREQUENTLY. If a healthy sexually active man is not getting sex from 2 - 4 times a week (depending upon the male's particular libido) from his partner, then "on average" masturbation is going to be happening, to a greater or lesser extent; and generally speaking porn is used to facilitate the masturbation.

 

It seems as if rather than attempt to address waynebrady's contention (not just his, but mine, and I guess most other males' POV on this topic), you posted something that was simply insulting/sarcastic, but did not even make an attempt to address the key point.

 

If it's your contention that no, most men do NOT need rather frequent sexual release, then come right out and SAY so. And try to "back that up" with something OTHER than sarcasm and insults. If it's your contention that there is some other ALTERNATIVE to masturbation that is available to men who simply aren't getting enough sex from their partners, then SAY so. And try to back it up with something OTHER than sarcasm and insults.

 

The repeated and perpetual use of sarcasm and insults on some of these topics by various posters I perceive as a psychological defense mechanism since I don't think you and others who do this are trying to be intentionally "nasty." It's just that male masturbation is a very sensitive topic for you and others.

[Eeyore79]

I don't see why it's such a big deal. I look at porn myself; it's completely meaningless, it's just a fantasy which gets me to a pleasurable physical experience. I couldn't really complain if my partner also looked at porn; I'm sure it would be just as meaningless to him. Enjoying the physical sensation of rubbing one out in no way reflects on my feelings for my partner or my commitment to my relationship.

[dreamingoftigers]

dreaming of tigers,

 

IMO, your response to waynebrady is completely unfair.

 

IME he is making a very legitimate point, if I may spin off on it, which is that men don't look at porn and/or masturbate with the purpose of "hurting" their women or causing them harm. The purpose of using porn and masturbating is to get sexual relief from very real tension that builds up. I don't know if I'd agree it needs to be daily for EVERYONE but certainly FREQUENTLY. If a healthy sexually active man is not getting sex from 2 - 4 times a week (depending upon the male's particular libido) from his partner, then "on average" masturbation is going to be happening, to a greater or lesser extent; and generally speaking porn is used to facilitate the masturbation.

 

It seems as if rather than attempt to address waynebrady's contention (not just his, but mine, and I guess most other males' POV on this topic), you posted something that was simply insulting/sarcastic, but did not even make an attempt to address the key point.

 

If it's your contention that no, most men do NOT need rather frequent sexual release, then come right out and SAY so. And try to "back that up" with something OTHER than sarcasm and insults. If it's your contention that there is some other ALTERNATIVE to masturbation that is available to men who simply aren't getting enough sex from their partners, then SAY so. And try to back it up with something OTHER than sarcasm and insults.

 

The repeated and perpetual use of sarcasm and insults on some of these topics by various posters I perceive as a psychological defense mechanism since I don't think you and others who do this are trying to be intentionally "nasty." It's just that male masturbation is a very sensitive topic for you and others.

 

Two things: 1. The OP and her partner were having daily sex, some of the other issues listed included rushing away from the hospital to view porn and hiding it and lying about it. Think of any other addiction and the same behaviours and you may be able to see the problem.

 

2. I was ripping on waynebrady a bit because if you look at his other posts they are all about the same thing, "women hate sex, women can go without sex for months or years without needing to touch themselves down there." On a thread where a poster was asking about anal he wrote "Women hate anal. So why bring it up with her? And yes she will be pissed off if you talk to her about it."

"Women are not nearly as sexual as men are. If you break it up with her, you will have the same problem and feel equally frustrated with the next woman... and the next woman and so on. As a man you will get rejected the majority of times even by your gf/wife/so. You have to accept the fact that women are just not that into sex."

 

etc etc etc. So I just thought I would mildly rip on him like he does with others. My failed attempt at humor. I thought the stats would make it apparent I was kidding around just like I figure he is every time he mentions how obviously us women "hate" sex.

[JackJack]

You could always look at a bunch or porn too. Loads of porn with hot men. I bet he wouldn't mind. But, if he did thats when you tell him to stop the complaining like a big baby and that he is getting sex from you, so he should be ok with it.

[dreamingoftigers]

You could always look at a bunch or porn too. Loads of porn with hot men. I bet he wouldn't mind. But, if he did thats when you tell him to stop the complaining like a big baby and that he is getting sex from you, so he should be ok with it.

 

I think the equivalent would be to have a guy over to just kiss and cuddle with.

[waynebrady]

I think the equivalent would be to have a guy over to just kiss and cuddle with.

 

No it wouldn't. So the equivalent of a man watching porn is a woman kissing and cuddling with another man? How does that even make sense? Men watch porn to make it easier to "get off", we don't feel anything for the woman in the porn vids and just because we look at the porn vids doesn't mean that we actually want to have sex with the woman in them, it's just a tool to get off really...

[Floridaman]

No it wouldn't. So the equivalent of a man watching porn is a woman kissing and cuddling with another man? How does that even make sense? Men watch porn to make it easier to "get off", we don't feel anything for the woman in the porn vids and just because we look at the porn vids doesn't mean that we actually want to have sex with the woman in them, it's just a tool to get off really...

Wayne,

Agree with you on some things you say but I don't on the bolded part.

 

While I won't have any emotional attachment to the woman I view in a porn video, to be honest, I sure would want to be in the man's place!

 

Yes, I'm wanting to "get off" (which I can do easily enough w/o porn) but I'm not gonna pretend that the images don't make me lust towards her and wish I was doing that with her.

Edited October 24, 2010 by Floridaman