SteveC80 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Cut this guy some slack; he is obivously not in the same league as very hot girls, so of course it SUCKS sometimes when you are up close dancing with a super hot girl BECAUSE YOU KNOW YOU WILL NEVER GET ONE , lol! And a hot body builder/ personal trainer slept down his league with me recently; he is perfection, perfect body AND FACE, yet I am.. NOT EVEN NORMAL LOOKING GUYS CHECK ME OUT omg. And the guy did find me attractive, cos he does not actually do one nighyt stands normally. I was an exception. He has low self esteem, surprisingly. It is also about the chemistry between two people; I am shy and weird, and he is VERY, VERy out going and bubbly and positive, yet we clicked and we had the right " energy" when we intereacted, to want to have sex with one another. Although, a super hot model could probably get most guys to have sex with her even if she HAD NO chemistry with the guy; but this is very rare, as most people are notuper hot models. For the most part, I think it biuls down to the normal/slightly attractive girls like me, who ar enothing special, that have the right connection with a super hot guy; it may be enough to get above your own league! So this one hot guy found me attractive enough to enjoy playing with my body, when I am not that hot. I am certainly not in HIS league. Dating or having sex with a person in a lower or higher league to your own league DOES happen, and hopefully it will happen for me more often lol!!!!! I did not actually feel attracted to the guy initially, because he is so out going and I am depressive and a little socially stand off - ish. furthermore, in addition to our opposite personalities, he has a perfect body and super cute face. I did not even consider that a guy like him would find me attractive, so as a result, I felt nothing towards him at first. It was only after he said I was hot and expressed an interest that I felt any attraction. When i was younger and still had the 6 pack and in great shape i had that experience from women Certain women who were cute but not 10's would give me the cold shoulder when i didnt even know thme or if i did i was nothing but nice to them Theyd talk about how they didnt like really in shape overly muscular guys as like a defensive mechanism then when i shwoed interest in thme and end up sleeping with them they thanked me over and over like i was the goodwill,they couldnt believe id slepe with them,they were as happy as ive ever seen a human being I think women do that allot pretend they dont like the really really hot muscular guys and where too vain shallo3 etc as a defensive mechanism becasue they dont think they can get one but all women deep down highly desire one instead of the average joes theyre with
GoodOnPaper Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 I think women do that allot pretend they dont like the really really hot muscular guys and where too vain shallo3 etc as a defensive mechanism becasue they dont think they can get one but all women deep down highly desire one instead of the average joes theyre with Which begs the question, why are they bothering with us average joes at all then?
SteveC80 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Which begs the question, why are they bothering with us average joes at all then? The stigma thats attatched to women for being single over a certain age and how their looked down upon for it plus the desire to have kids will override their lust for a really hot guy allot of times
donnamaybe Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! My "average Joe" is busy remodeling my house. If I had some overpumped roid head in my house, he'd be too busy flexing in front of the mirror to get a DAMN thing done. Besides - all those steriods makes the wee wee teeny weeny.
SteveC80 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Ha ha ha ha haaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! My "average Joe" is busy remodeling my house. If I had some overpumped roid head in my house, he'd be too busy flexing in front of the mirror to get a DAMN thing done. Besides - all those steriods makes the wee wee teeny weeny. You convince yourself that becasue your insecure and think a real hot guy would cheat on you not becasue he does nothing for you physically Do you know how many married women have cheated on their husband with me or tried to do it and i felt bad and didnt do it? More then you could imagine and not becasue we had a spark but because i was "hot"
donnamaybe Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 You convince yourself that becasue your insecure and think a real hot guy would cheat on you not becasue he does nothing for you physically Do you know how many married women have cheated on their husband with me or tried to do it and i felt bad and didnt do it? More then you could imagine and not becasue we had a spark but because i was "hot" Um. Yeah. Okay. Everyone's convinced. Aren't we?
GoodOnPaper Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 The stigma thats attatched to women for being single over a certain age and how their looked down upon for it plus the desire to have kids will override their lust for a really hot guy allot of times Hmmm . . . it's too bad that these women have to suffer nausea from being naked with an average joe just to have kids . . .
SteveC80 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Um. Yeah. Okay. Everyone's convinced. Aren't we? Well clearly youve had more experience with married women hitting on you then me to speak on their inner desires:rolleyes:
Woggle Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 To be fair I actually think is one of the rare women that is happy with her good man. They do exist. I do agree with you on most things though. My good looking player friends tell me it is extremely easy to get a married woman into bed.
SteveC80 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Hmmm . . . it's too bad that these women have to suffer nausea from being naked with an average joe just to have kids . . . I wouldnt say nausea just kinda apathetic Theyres a reason once they get the marriage and kids the sex is gone,theyve gotten what they wanted and arent that attracted to their mate so no need ot have sex just for the fun of it
SteveC80 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 To be fair I actually think is one of the rare women that is happy with her good man. They do exist. I do agree with you on most things though. My good looking player friends tell me it is extremely easy to get a married woman into bed. Maybe i was harsh on her but for her to say it doesnt exist because shes not like that is a bad argument because there are TONS who are i speak from experience unfotunately Plus i think allot of women try to convince themselves they dont like extremely good looking guys as a defense mechanism because they dont think they can get or keep one but are deep down attracted
donnamaybe Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Well clearly youve had more experience with married women hitting on you then me to speak on their inner desires:rolleyes: Yeah, I've had a few gals hit on me. Don't know if they were married or not, but they were disappointed I don't swing that way. As for the type of married woman who would sneak around behind her H's back, since they are of very low class, I wouldn't be too quick to use them as a reference for quality in the guys they would choose to cheat with.
donnamaybe Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Maybe i was harsh on her but for her to say it doesnt exist because shes not like that is a bad argument because there are TONS who are i speak from experience unfotunately Plus i think allot of women try to convince themselves they dont like extremely good looking guys as a defense mechanism because they dont think they can get or keep one but are deep down attracted There's no way I could be attracted to a guy unless he comes across as at least slightly intelligent.
SteveC80 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 (edited) There's no way I could be attracted to a guy unless he comes across as at least slightly intelligent. Im not saying you but allot of women in general,women say they arent attracted to the overly good looking guys because theyre stupid vain etc but its a defense mechanism and if the hot guy approached them theyd be giddy The things i got away with and did when i was young because of my looks is mind boggling Edited October 22, 2010 by SteveC80
sweetjasmine Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 My "average Joe" is busy remodeling my house. If I had some overpumped roid head in my house, he'd be too busy flexing in front of the mirror to get a DAMN thing done. +1. While Mr. Six-Pack-Roid-Rage-Rock-Star might be nice to look at sometimes, that's usually all there is to them, and they tend to look for no strings screwing around. I'm not looking for a f--- toy to use and dispose. I'm not looking for 10 minutes of fun so I can move on to the next warm body to screw. I'd rather be with someone who has substantive qualities that make him an excellent long-term relationship partner than someone who's immature, unstable, vain, and just looking for temporary fun. So, no, I don't sit there batting my eyelashes, twirling my hair, and day-dreaming about what it'd be like to spend the rest of my life with Mr. Six-Pack-Roid-Rage-Rock-Star with our perfect house and two little perfect beautiful children and his unemployment, alcoholism, and steroid addiction. Hahahahaha. Believe it or not, some of us move past being 16 years old.
LittleTiger Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Believe it or not, some of us move past being 16 years old. That's the big problem for a lot of guys - they don't move past being 16 years old. While grown up women are more interested in what's between a man's ears, many 'grown up' men are on the lookout for hot babes with barbie doll proportions, pretty much until they drop dead (at whatever age that may be)! The laws of attraction are very different for men and women. Some guys just don't get that. Good looking guys might be nice to look at (for a short while) but nobody wants to marry a statue of a Greek God - life can get pretty boring when all he does is pose. Most importantly, classic good looks don't make a person sexy. Sex appeal is a whole different league altogether. Brad Pitt is about as sexy to me as a house brick. Jack Nicholson, however, oozes sex from every pore. Although he's not ugly, he's not exactly what you'd call 'good looking' either (I mean when he was younger) and I've never seen him flashing a six pack, but he has (had) 'something' that many women can't resist. (Sorry if you're too young to know who Jack Nicholson is - if you're interested google him or better still watch one of his earlier films!)
SteveC80 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 That's the big problem for a lot of guys - they don't move past being 16 years old. While grown up women are more interested in what's between a man's ears, many 'grown up' men are on the lookout for hot babes with barbie doll proportions, pretty much until they drop dead (at whatever age that may be)! The laws of attraction are very different for men and women. Some guys just don't get that. Good looking guys might be nice to look at (for a short while) but nobody wants to marry a statue of a Greek God - life can get pretty boring when all he does is pose. Most importantly, classic good looks don't make a person sexy. Sex appeal is a whole different league altogether. Brad Pitt is about as sexy to me as a house brick. Jack Nicholson, however, oozes sex from every pore. Although he's not ugly, he's not exactly what you'd call 'good looking' either (I mean when he was younger) and I've never seen him flashing a six pack, but he has (had) 'something' that many women can't resist. (Sorry if you're too young to know who Jack Nicholson is - if you're interested google him or better still watch one of his earlier films!) Yes im sure the power fame and fortune Jack has adds nothing to his "sex appeal"
Titania22 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Also, because of my low self-esteem I automatically think that women aren't into me. So when I'm with a girl and I think she's flirting with me my internal dialogue is something like, "She's being way too nice. That's just her personality. I think she's flirting with me. No, she does that with every guy. She just grabbed my ass! That doesn't mean she's into me, there's no way a girl could like me. (BTW the ass thing was a joke.) This brings an interesting thought to me. And it would take great self control and guts. Here it is. Girls like guys who flirt, not necessarily as forward as grassing ass though. How about you practise flirting with girls, with no agenda. Don't worry about if they are interested and hoping you will ask them out or make a move. Just explore the skill of flirtation. It's a great skill to have, because even one day when you are in an ltr or married, if you continued to flirt with your partner, you can keep her spark for you alive, and probably continue to have regular sex. The idea behind flirting, especially with your hot girl, is that as you get better at it, you will feel more confident around women, and women will probably be developing little crushes on you (thus will become interested), and just remind yourself to continuously take care of your own sexual needs. It won't hurt to stop thinking about scoring or getting a girlfriend for a month and just have fun developing the skill. Then in a month evaluate the response you've received. Thank you for the tips. My plan is to slim down but after I bulk up. I need bigger arms and shoulders. It's so women won't think I'm weak and can't protect them just because I'm short and being strong will help with my self-esteem. The faux-hawk is a style I no longer wear but my current one isn't much better. I hate my hair and it's very hard to do anything with it. When it gets long it starts to curl in the front and looks stupid. I need to keep it short to have some resemblance of style If being strong helps with your self esteem you should do it. But avoid short mans syndrome, ok. I was married to a man no more then 5'4, and he was a monster. His height was never a problem. In fact I had never even thought of such things, until he drew my attention to it. Also I would used caution, because if you are short, being wider will probably make it more obvious. Men have a natural musculature then women don't have. So by your very nature you are stronger. I feel your hair pain. Yeah it's hard. Too bad most girls aren't like you. From what I've experienced. If a girl doesn't like me the first day I met her. She never will. If most girls were like me, men wouldn't mind the friend zone. I have no problem taking a guy out of the friendzone if and when cupids arrow hits. And trust me, when I am interested I leave no doubt in the mans mind.
LittleTiger Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Yes im sure the power fame and fortune Jack has adds nothing to his "sex appeal" You think Brad Pitt doesn't have the same power, fame and fortune - not to mention broad muscular shoulders, great pecs and a six pack? With or without their power, fame and fortune - men like Jack Nicholson win every time in the sex appeal department - no competition (IMO). I don't understand why you guys come on this forum and argue with women about what's attractive. Personally, I have nothing to prove or win by lying to you. Unlike men, most women genuinely do not immediately want to f*ck every guy they see above an 8 in the looks league. Men and women are different in lots of ways, including what attracts them to the opposite sex - that's a fact.
SteveC80 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 You think Brad Pitt doesn't have the same power, fame and fortune - not to mention broad muscular shoulders, great pecs and a six pack? With or without their power, fame and fortune - men like Jack Nicholson win every time in the sex appeal department - no competition (IMO). I don't understand why you guys come on this forum and argue with women about what's attractive. Personally, I have nothing to prove or win by lying to you. Unlike men, most women genuinely do not immediately want to f*ck every guy they see above an 8 in the looks league. Men and women are different in lots of ways, including what attracts them to the opposite sex - that's a fact. From my experience thats far from the truth maybe thats you but tons of women i hang out with and have been with are just as visual as Men and get hot and bothered by something they see that they like
LittleTiger Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 From my experience thats far from the truth maybe thats you but tons of women i hang out with and have been with are just as visual as Men and get hot and bothered by something they see that they like No, it's not far from the truth. You are completely misunderstanding me. Of course I get hot and bothered when I see a great looking guy with a great body - if I think he is sexually attractive but not every good looking guy with a great body is sexually attractive to me. Whereas the vast majority of men will automatically want sex with every good looking woman with a great body that he comes across. I also get hot and bothered if I see a guy who may not be good looking but who I think is sexy as h*ll for other reasons - and there are a million other things that make a guy sexy besides looks.
porter218 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 With or without their power, fame and fortune - men like Jack Nicholson win every time in the sex appeal department - no competition (IMO). totally true! I don't understand why you guys come on this forum and argue with women about what's attractive. Personally, I have nothing to prove or win by lying to you. Unlike men, most women genuinely do not immediately want to f*ck every guy they see above an 8 in the looks league. Men and women are different in lots of ways, including what attracts them to the opposite sex - that's a fact. Yea...in reading this thread I have been completely confused as to why these guys keep saying what women go for then when we correct them they say we are lying:confused:. I really don't get it. For me it is almost all personality that gets me each time. And you are absolutely correct when you explain that Jack Nicholson has that je ne sais quoi that women love. It is incredibly hard to explain but is a way the guy carries himself..the things he says..confidence and many other thing all added up to make him irresistible. And to make it even harder to explain...the way we feel about a man can strongly influence how he physically looks to us too. I remember when I first met my xH the first date I thought he looked OK but I loved his personality. By the second date I thought he was incredibly good looking(to me). For the longest time I thought he was hot(to me) then when he cheated on me all the sudden I remember looking at him and thinking "god, he isn't good looking at all". He looked almost ugly to me until he won my heart again. Now that we aren't together I look at him and realize the whole time he was always a 6-7 but my emotions would change it. I don't go for super hot model men...to me they look gay and I can't get that out of my mind long enough to sleep with them:laugh:.
SteveC80 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 No, it's not far from the truth. You are completely misunderstanding me. Of course I get hot and bothered when I see a great looking guy with a great body - if I think he is sexually attractive but not every good looking guy with a great body is sexually attractive to me. Whereas the vast majority of men will automatically want sex with every good looking woman with a great body that he comes across. I also get hot and bothered if I see a guy who may not be good looking but who I think is sexy as h*ll for other reasons - and there are a million other things that make a guy sexy besides looks. Im not sayign a good looking jerk cant turn women off but at the same time if theres no physical attraction a women has for a guy the guy has no chance For a personality to win a girl over she in the begning has to at least think hes decent looking and acceptable,nobody can go from eww hes ugly to hes hot off personality
SteveC80 Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 For the longest time I thought he was hot(to me) then when he cheated on me all the sudden I remember looking at him and thinking "god, he isn't good looking at all". He looked almost ugly to me until he won my heart again. Now that we aren't together I look at him and realize the whole time he was always a 6-7 but my emotions would change it. I don't go for super hot model men...to me they look gay and I can't get that out of my mind long enough to sleep with them:laugh:. Wouldnt a 6 or 7 still be considered above average and attractive:confused:
carhill Posted October 22, 2010 Posted October 22, 2010 Yes im sure the power fame and fortune Jack has adds nothing to his "sex appeal" Yeah, I think Jack kinda
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