Hot girls

[counterman]

I think some of my friends have changed their perspectives already. It use to be just the hot girls they wanted to go after (even though they never did approach ANY girls). Now, they sort of realise it's probably not happening and a couple of them have landed girlfriends, and find themselves much happier.

 

I think perspective does change when you get older. And, that look of youth is not something I would take for granted by just singling out the hot girls and talking to them.

 

I have spoken to hot girls before... and have had great conversations with them, but during the interaction, I don't think I have ever thought of asking them out. However, with other girls that I am attracted to, that instinctive drive to go further makes me ask her out. I don't know what it is. I don't want to be that guy... but I don't think I will be. I have seen it happen. Guys literally falling over their words and shooting themselves in the foot when they had a chance. Though, you do learn from experience.

 

One of my main focuses has been working on my self, whether it is personal skills, career, studies, fitness, etc. I want to the best that I can be. I think that makes anyone more attractive.

 

I think is it really hot if a girl is sexy but shy!

 

The hot girls are the ones that guys stare at and heads turn; really gets the juices flowing

[Tim The Enchanter]

That is simply not accurate. The truth is that many guys like me, have already been through a couple of girls who thought they were hot.... and we didn't like it at all.

 

The real problem with highly attractive women is that from a young age everyone treats them like they are special because of their looks. They absolutely suck to date. It's just so High maintenance and they are so entitled that it just isn't worth it. That also goes for girls who are not that hot, but think they are... or were back in highschool.

 

So... if you think most guys are just intimidated by a really pretty woman... you are off your rocker. Most of us just don't want to put up with the crap that comes with it.

 

Let the players have them. I'd rather have a woman with good looks and a better heart.

 

Well said, Sir. Couldn't agree more. Ironically, one of my biggest turn offs is someone who is in love with themself and who thinks that all men will automatically roll over and beg for them.

[counterman]

Well said, Sir. Couldn't agree more. Ironically, one of my biggest turn offs is someone who is in love with themself and who thinks that all men will automatically roll over and beg for them.

 

That would be just disgusting. I think some are really use to it... they could get away with more than others. I wouldn't put up with any of it at all. How can being "hot" make up for bad treatment? It can't.

 

Though, I have met girls who I thought didn't have that nasty attitude. I am sure there are some on LS, who I would I like to hear some. What they honestly think when a guy that isn't super attractive approaches them, etc?

 

I have heard one of my hot girl friends say something along the lines of "those guys that had us were so lucky".

[EasyHeart]

IME, really beautiful women are usually pretty nice people. It's the marginally attractive women who are the worst -- chubby women who wear too much make up, think they are God's gift to the universe, and rationalize their lack of a boyfriend to "Men are intimidated by be".

 

No sweetie, men think you are a bitch.

[Chicago_Guy]

IME, really beautiful women are usually pretty nice people. It's the marginally attractive women who are the worst -- chubby women who wear too much make up, think they are God's gift to the universe, and rationalize their lack of a boyfriend to "Men are intimidated by be".

 

No sweetie, men think you are a bitch.

 

I agree 100%. The marginally attractive ones really are the worst because they are so upset that they cannot get the guys they really want. Sometimes the marginally attractive ones think that the mere fact that they are thin means that they are hot.

[AverageJoe]

Who are the hot girls? Are they superconfident and supersexy? Am I right?

Does a man always have an instant and prolong erection when he is around them?

Is a girl hot if she is only sexy but she is shy?

 

I have found many of the hot girls have the lowest self-esteem you could imagine. Sometimes even very insecure.

The key is to break through the fake self confidence they portray. I was chatting up a really hot girl once and as I talked to her I pointed at the dress she was wearing and asked if she was in the business of selling shower curtains. She didnt quite understand what I meant, and I explained the pastel designs on it really had me curious.

Then she got it and laughed and I of course laughed right along.

 

What did I just do? I made her realize I was qualifying her. Instead of her qualifying me. Hot girls are NOT used to back handed compliments or people ripping on them. Do you know how much emphasis a hot girl puts into the way they look?

It set off a chain of events in her mind and the balance of power shifted over to me. She turned out to be a pretty cool girl. Not to mention her hot friends.

 

So go for it man. Never EVER think a girl is out of your league. She is just a girl and you talk to a hot girl knowing that. Do it!

[counterman]

I have met those marginally attractive ones and those ones who are far from attractive, but think they are hot. It is a real turn off when they act as though they are all that. Some of them even pay out the real hot girls when they enter the room, which I find funny.

 

AverageJoe, I like what you did with that hot girl I agree, I don't think most are use to getting the piss taken out of them. A little teasing never hurt anyone.

 

What I have noticed is, the ones that I have approached, I had this notion in my mind that they would be... not as friendly. Most of the time, they turned out to be really friendly and pretty cool. But, I haven't asked any of them out. So, yeah I will go for it.

 

I was on a date with a girl yesterday...and I just didn't feel the attraction. I felt pretty empty inside. I'm sure she would to. I just didn't flirt with her or anything. It's about time that I ask girls that I find really attractive.

[dispatch3d]

I have met those marginally attractive ones and those ones who are far from attractive, but think they are hot. It is a real turn off when they act as though they are all that. Some of them even pay out the real hot girls when they enter the room, which I find funny.

 

AverageJoe, I like what you did with that hot girl I agree, I don't think most are use to getting the piss taken out of them. A little teasing never hurt anyone.

 

What I have noticed is, the ones that I have approached, I had this notion in my mind that they would be... not as friendly. Most of the time, they turned out to be really friendly and pretty cool. But, I haven't asked any of them out. So, yeah I will go for it.

 

I was on a date with a girl yesterday...and I just didn't feel the attraction. I felt pretty empty inside. I'm sure she would to. I just didn't flirt with her or anything. It's about time that I ask girls that I find really attractive.

 

I used to care how other people behaved around me. How can I explain it. Like thinking oh this girl thinks she's so hot. Or that girl is treating me awful. Whatever. Then I recently realized who cares? Whats the difference to me? I think even thinking those thoughts is too much. They are just people doing their thing in their world. If they are rude, obnoxious, a dick to me, jerky, dramatic, whatever then that can be their perogative. That stuff quite frankly doesn't enter into my world. Maybe they're just upset, or the "bitchY" "too good for you" girl is just gaurded.

[counterman]

Right on. You can't control how behave around you, so you shouldn't care how they do as it doesn't make a difference to how you are and what you do. However, don't get me wrong, I don't overly think about it. It's just a mere observation, where I really look into a matter or think of something in retrospect.

 

It's usually shrug it off if someone mistreats me and move on. Though, I get what you mean. I use to really care... and it really bothered me, thinking it was a reflection on me and how I was. But, how can it be when I treat everyone with respect?

 

My friend pointed out one of my girl friends they other day and said "I find her so annoying - she thinks she's so hot; she should get over herself". I told him straight up "I really like her - she's bubbly and fun". Even if it's a guy that thinks he's all that, it doesn't affect me. However, when the situation is presented, you can't help but make that observation, whether it is other people's lives or my own.

 

One of my closer girl friends has low self-esteem. She worries what certain guys think of her and thinks that they always go for someone "better" - better as in hot. Though, she is wonderful - funny, really outgoing, etc. I am sure if she didn't care about what others thought or what's happening around her (guys approaching other girls but not her), others would be able to see her as she is.

[gypsy_nicky]

I have found many of the hot girls have the lowest self-esteem you could imagine. Sometimes even very insecure.

The key is to break through the fake self confidence they portray. I was chatting up a really hot girl once and as I talked to her I pointed at the dress she was wearing and asked if she was in the business of selling shower curtains. She didnt quite understand what I meant, and I explained the pastel designs on it really had me curious.

Then she got it and laughed and I of course laughed right along.

 

What did I just do? I made her realize I was qualifying her. Instead of her qualifying me. Hot girls are NOT used to back handed compliments or people ripping on them. Do you know how much emphasis a hot girl puts into the way they look?

It set off a chain of events in her mind and the balance of power shifted over to me. She turned out to be a pretty cool girl. Not to mention her hot friends.

 

So go for it man. Never EVER think a girl is out of your league. She is just a girl and you talk to a hot girl knowing that. Do it!

 

wth....

 

what you did was just give her a double entendre, a 'nice' insult. I think anyone who receives this sort of message will feel the same.

 

Funny if you would do this to someone with an aggressive personality. I'm sure they would deck you in no time.

[gypsy_nicky]

I have met those marginally attractive ones and those ones who are far from attractive, but think they are hot. It is a real turn off when they act as though they are all that. Some of them even pay out the real hot girls when they enter the room, which I find funny.

 

see this is where guys in this thread get confused. Real HOT girls do not really have a bad personality. Its the marginally/moderately attractive ones that need to look preen and proper who are the bitchy, nasty ones you meet.

[counterman]

Yes, those ones that need to look polished...

 

Well, I can sort of contrast two of the experiences I have had.

 

One girl was was a friend of mine. She was really attractive. She looked like one of the Hollywood actresses. My friend introduced us one day and I spoke to her, she was so obnoxious. I say hello and it seems that I am harassing her. I am sure she doesn't treat everyone like that but... I would never treat a friend of a friend like that, especially on the first meeting.

 

Another one, who I spoke to recently, was absolutely lovely. She was funny, knew how to have a laugh, would ask questions about my life, etc.

 

Experiences do vary.

 

I guess consecutive bad experiences for some guys lead them to think that ALL hot girls do have that nasty personality.

[Knittress]

I have found many of the hot girls have the lowest self-esteem you could imagine. Sometimes even very insecure.

The key is to break through the fake self confidence they portray. I was chatting up a really hot girl once and as I talked to her I pointed at the dress she was wearing and asked if she was in the business of selling shower curtains. She didnt quite understand what I meant, and I explained the pastel designs on it really had me curious.

Then she got it and laughed and I of course laughed right along.

 

What did I just do? I made her realize I was qualifying her. Instead of her qualifying me. Hot girls are NOT used to back handed compliments or people ripping on them. Do you know how much emphasis a hot girl puts into the way they look?

It set off a chain of events in her mind and the balance of power shifted over to me. She turned out to be a pretty cool girl. Not to mention her hot friends.

 

So go for it man. Never EVER think a girl is out of your league. She is just a girl and you talk to a hot girl knowing that. Do it!

 

Soooo... you're saying a woman with a kind disposition can't be hot?

If you acted like that with someone who had a gentle feminine personality she'd back away right-quick.

Edited October 21, 2010 by Knittress

[Tim The Enchanter]

see this is where guys in this thread get confused. Real HOT girls do not really have a bad personality. Its the marginally/moderately attractive ones that need to look preen and proper who are the bitchy, nasty ones you meet.

 

Apologies for nitpicking, but that's as big a generalisation as saying all "hot" girls are vacuous and narcissistic.

 

Naomi Campbell immediately springs to mind as someone who is stunningly beautiful, yet is an awful, odious individual. And I bet there are fair few more like her.

[Leigh 87]

I agree 100%. The marginally attractive ones really are the worst because they are so upset that they cannot get the guys they really want. Sometimes the marginally attractive ones think that the mere fact that they are thin means that they are hot.

 

Oh no:( When I was thin 110 or less, at 5 '5 to 5 ' 6) I assumed that guys should come and approach me. I thought it must be cos I have an only marginally attractive Or ugly face.

 

I have clear very good skin, big light blue eyes, blonde wavy long - medium hair ( which is healthy as I do not straighten it or use product in it) nice lips, and straight teeth. Although not very white:(

 

 

I had a perfect body, according to the stero type, but no guys would ever approach me. not once. Not ever. So I put it down to the fact I was not pretty in my face, although I knew I was not ugly.

 

 

I can tell u that I am shy, I do not think I am fabulous just cos I may be what some guys consider hot. I would eat pasta on a date, and am nto a salad obsessed, high maintenance stero type of a hot girl.

 

I was actually over weight as a teen and was made fun of A LOT. I hd awful skin, too, and crooked teeth that needed TWO sets of braces to straighten.

 

I have never had any one tell me I am attractive. But now I do have staight teeth, I am 116 ish lbs at 5 '6 with an hour glass figure and good boobs and butt, and I work out every day and eat clean. I look after myself.

 

And yet, because of my past, I have never been able to get by in my looks. I was ridiculed for them. i wish guys would approach me. I am shy, but I can be out going once ppl get to know me.

 

So I am hot to SOME men ( although I am nto universally hot cos I am not the ultra slimmodel type), yet NO ONE approaches me.

[Awesome Username]

I have found many of the hot girls have the lowest self-esteem you could imagine. Sometimes even very insecure.

The key is to break through the fake self confidence they portray. I was chatting up a really hot girl once and as I talked to her I pointed at the dress she was wearing and asked if she was in the business of selling shower curtains. She didnt quite understand what I meant, and I explained the pastel designs on it really had me curious.

Then she got it and laughed and I of course laughed right along.

 

What did I just do? I made her realize I was qualifying her. Instead of her qualifying me. Hot girls are NOT used to back handed compliments or people ripping on them. Do you know how much emphasis a hot girl puts into the way they look?

It set off a chain of events in her mind and the balance of power shifted over to me. She turned out to be a pretty cool girl. Not to mention her hot friends.

 

So go for it man. Never EVER think a girl is out of your league. She is just a girl and you talk to a hot girl knowing that. Do it!

 

Too bad the internet made the whole "backhanded compliment" trick well known among women. Don't do this - it might have worked before women knew the trick, but it likely won't now and it comes across as vindictive and desperate. This, and the guys that read palms/do tarot cards at clubs or parties. Women instantly know what you're up to.

 

However, I do agree with the "Go for it." Even if you two just remain friends, she's likely to have hot female friends. Birds of a feather flock together!

Edited October 21, 2010 by Awesome Username

[counterman]

Leigh, many of my girl friends do not get approached. They are, by all means, attractive, not stunning, but fairly attractive, and they have never been approached. Your description of yourself seems fine. I am sure you are at least decent looking since you do take care of yourself pretty well.

 

My guy friends are shocked at me when I say that I approach a girl and ask her out. So, if girls are waiting for guys to approach them and guys (like my friends) are scared to approach them, then the whole system is screwed.

 

I think girls that just seem to wait for guys to approach them should try a more proactive approach. Meet guys through friends, activities, events, etc. Actually go up to a guy you fancy and talk to him and flirt. Believe me, a guy would love being approach by an attractive girl.

 

Definitely go for it.

 

A lot of the PUA suggest you do those things, but I say just get talking to her, then go from there.

[AverageJoe]

Wow, lots to respond to.

 

what you did was just give her a double entendre, a 'nice' insult. I think anyone who receives this sort of message will feel the same.

 

Funny if you would do this to someone with an aggressive personality. I'm sure they would deck you in no time.

 

Thats right, I sure did. Hot chicks normally dont catch on to it immediately. Never been decked, could it happen, sure. But I dont chat up butch bitches that like to deck people.

 

Soooo... you're saying a woman with a kind disposition can't be hot?

If you acted like that with someone who had a gentle feminine personality she'd back away right-quick.

 

No, I never said that at all. Why you drew your conclusion to that I dont know. YOU might back away, and thats ok. I have no problem with that. The topic is in regards to HOT girls.

 

Too bad the internet made the whole "backhanded compliment" trick well known among women. Don't do this - it might have worked before women knew the trick, but it likely won't now and it comes across as vindictive and desperate. This, and the guys that read palms/do tarot cards at clubs or parties. Women instantly know what you're up to.

 

However, I do agree with the "Go for it." Even if you two just remain friends, she's likely to have hot female friends. Birds of a feather flock together!

 

Trying not to give my age up too much here, but this is something that I did (do) before this internet 'fad' you speak of. Besides, hot girls spend VERY little time on the internet if any at all.

Oh yes, I do it. I will continue to do it. Why? Because my success rate garners me a much higher return than Earl down in the accounting department. It works. How many women have you dated?

The card and palm tricks maked me lol I have to admit, never heard of that. I would agree with you there.

[SlevinKalebra]

IME, the majority are not worth it. Of course, hotness is subjective. But, the majority of hot girls I have come across are stuck up, materialistic, and b*tchy. If you want to approach them, it's your call. I truly hope you find the one for you.

 

Yep. I believe in Barneys hot to nuerotic scale. I don't go by a 1-10 scale. I think it's nonsense. I go by a 0-1 scale 0= not attracted to them 1=I am. So if you are attracted talk to them. If not don't don't limt yourself because she's only a 9.2

[that girl]

"Hot" women are hard to generalize about. Half the time when a guy says a woman is hot it has more to do with her clothes (or lack of them) than her being unusually attractive. And lots of guys call you hot when hooking up because they are turned on in the moment, but maybe if he was rating a photo of her he'd give her a 6.

 

But I will say that I have some close friends (or past close friends) who I consider far, far, far above average in the looks department and I don't think they are any different when it comes to guys. And by far above average I mean girls who had professionally modelled, won beauty pageants, etc. The one difference I can think of is that they always get with above average looking guys. Not necessarily rich or charming guys, but always good looking guys. The amount of attention they got varied greatly from hardly dated to constant stream of guys.

 

But then again, I'm not sure if these comments are referring to the stripper looking girls (who aren't necessarily that pretty but have a decent body and dress provocatively) or truly freakishly beautiful girls. Genetics are luck and they don't say anything about a person. How you dress says a little bit more.

 

Too bad the internet made the whole "backhanded compliment" trick well known among women. Don't do this - it might have worked before women knew the trick, but it likely won't now and it comes across as vindictive and desperate. This, and the guys that read palms/do tarot cards at clubs or parties. Women instantly know what you're up to.

Ever notice that the mystery types almost always try for stripper type women?

 

I think backhanded compliments can work when they are obviously compliments. Not something meant to tear her down or throw her off guard, but actual compliments with a tiny bit of a joke. Naturally charming people have always made people feel better about themselves.

 

All that being said, I don't think someone should be too scared to ask someone out. The worst that can happen is that they say no.

[BS76]

I think backhanded compliments can work when they are obviously compliments. Not something meant to tear her down or throw her off guard, but actual compliments with a tiny bit of a joke. Naturally charming people have always made people feel better about themselves.

 

All this talk about "negs" which are only a tiny sliver of Game. You know what negs really are? Flirting. If you're not getting a playful swat/punch to the shoulder and a giggle then you're doing it wrong. That's the intended result. It just a playful way of razzing each other, something hot women pick up on pretty much instantly. The subtext of doing so says you're cool and on the level and don't put them on some stupid pedestal like most other guys. That in itself is an attractive thing--nobody likes needy/clingy people.

[counterman]

Having a bit of a banter and being a bit playful is fine. It's makes things fun and, most importantly, you are enjoying yourself. What I have noticed is that sometimes people get caught up and sort of freeze up in the presence of a hot girl. In fact, I have before, when I was in high school. Now, not so much... last time was right after my break-up. Spoke to a a hot girl... and was so nervous.

 

I just haven't asked any of them out. Don't know why.

 

People love to feel better about themselves. In general, when I talk to someone, I sure hope that I don't make them feel bad. I like to give compliments (when they are deserved and I am really impressed by something) and I find that the ones that brings the most prolonged smiles are the ones done with wit. Usually she picks it up just a few seconds after its said and bam

 

Strange how some people would do anything for a hot girl... I've seen my two friends played against each other over a girl. They fought over doing things for her.

 

I agree that people shouldn't be scared to ask anyone out. I actually enjoy that feeling of anticipation when I am about to ask a girl I am really attracted to out...

 

Though, in saying that, when placed around in an environment where people described each other in "leagues" - kind of creates this sense that someone people are not good enough for others, etc. I do not buy into that, but I have observed it even amongst my friends.

[porter218]

The problem is that if you do get the so called hot 9/10 , 10/10 the only guys are gonna be approaching her is the player type guys who have done this a million times and are ususally very good at seducing girls.

 

This is very true. It sucks because if you are hot and a genuine/good person then your options aren't great. Just a bunch of players and I would rather be alone then waste my time with a player. Do guys really think a hot girl couldn't fall for an average joe? That is disheartening to hear.

[BS76]

This is very true. It sucks because if you are hot and a genuine/good person then your options aren't great. Just a bunch of players and I would rather be alone then waste my time with a player. Do guys really think a hot girl couldn't fall for an average joe? That is disheartening to hear.

 

Actions speak louder than words. You can talk about how you want nice guys and so on, but until women start doing it and stop creating more fodder for sites like this, then I don't want to hear it.

[counterman]

Okay, so I have been noticing very attractive girls around, EVERYWHERE.

 

I haven't dated for a little period, 3 months, and haven't approached a girl in a while and I wish to start again.

 

However, I find it so nerve wracking! The thought of random approaches scares me a little. at the moment, but not so much before. Would there be another way to meet these girls?