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I thought she meant the posts about "Mine left his wife and now I have the ring"... I find those kind of posts gloating and insensitive because I don't think most of us OWs set out to or ever really evolve to the point of thinking in terms of taking someone a man from his wife and family, we just fell in love and a natural consequence of getting what we want is that MM must get divorced. But to continue to brag about it long after the fact shows me that some OWs do look at it as a competition which is stupid and which I believe perhaps sometimes rightfully brings on the comments of "find your own man that wasn't already married to someone else" and things along that line.

 

Is that something you have actually seen around here? I don't recognize it.

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Is that something you have actually seen around here? I don't recognize it.

 

Absolutely Jennie, I recognize it .. and I know the poster.

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Absolutely Jennie, I recognize it .. and I know the poster.

 

Link, please.

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Right on Star.

 

The gloating is insensitive - and disgusting .. And under her two identities happily ever after has spent evenings bashing other members on here..

 

OK, I think I know who you mean, and in that case I have to totally disagree with your interpretation of her posts. I have had my controversies with her, but never did I find her to be gloating about her relationship.

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OK, I think I know who you mean, and in that case I have to totally disagree with your interpretation of her posts. I have had my controversies with her, but never did I find her to be gloating about her relationship.

 

I read confusion in her posts, but never gloating.

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Right on Star.

 

The gloating is insensitive - and disgusting .. And under her two identities happily ever after has spent evenings bashing other members on here..

 

I just quote this cos I don't understand bashing. Proviso =

 

I 'bashed' once on LS - on another forum when a spouse was badmouthing his W in terms of character, cleanliness, and sex.

 

I felt disgusted by how he spoke about her - honestly it was so disrespectful as to have got me just cos I'm a woman.

 

I think some of the more generic 'bashers' feel similarly about what others feel is a normal part of life.

 

And others just wish to upset you or wind you up. Perhaps they were second siblings.

 

And very occasionally, a real bone of contention comes up. The one I know best from my time here is the BS vs OW contention.

 

About him 'settling' or returning to 'loving M'.

 

Another one is 'fog' vs 'real love'.

 

And in a more complex way 'under a bus' vs BS 'telling what WS what to do'.

 

Basically it's a fight about who he 'really' loves.

 

Oh, and there is no sympathy for an unapologetic OW, a (perceived) bunny boiler, or a BS who only blames the OP.

 

 

But this in itself is interesting.

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Link, please.

 

With all due respect Jennie, I'm not furnishing the link - because her stuff isn't worth my time to look up.

 

And also additionally I will say that she has tried to demean at least two former OW's insinuating their former MM didn't find them worth the quest. One of the former OW's was a new member.

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Hey guys I know exactly what u are talking about... I am new to this site and I expected it to be a place where OW can speak freely and get support from each other for each other.... I realize as soon as I posted my issues I was not greeted with genuine support but I was told why I should leave my MM and what I was doing to their marriage... I know first hand what I am doing is wrong and all I wanted was support to either leave him or support him throughhis seperation.....I believe if BS's don't have anything good to say, they should stay in their own forum.... Because although I am the OW (hate that term) I am a good person , I have never done this before and I have never told anybody about this... For me to muster up the courage and actually talk about this is already hard for me and I shouldn't get rediculed for speaking freely because I do not brag about my situation....

 

I just read (and responded to) your thread.

 

Where exactly were people not nice to you? Because most people didn't say "Yeah, he loves you and you just keep waiting because he will eventually leave"? Because there was no cheerleading going on?

 

I believe many people gave you some good advice. Only YOU know your situation and only YOU know if you are willing to wait a week, a month or a year. But what you are doing is allowing him to control you, manipulate you and IMHO disrespect you. If he loves you as you believe, he would be treating you better and not keeping you a secret.

 

Not one person ridiculed you. I am not understanding exactly what you were expecting when you posted.

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to me the point of being with someone is to have what you want out of the relationship, and what I want is full access anytime and not having to sneak around and be part of deception etc.

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SB, this is exactly how I felt and feel. Having someone in your life FULLTIME to me is a relationship. Settling for sneaking around, a quick text or an email is not a relationship. Meeting a couple times a year, or on a weekend here and there ... for ME, that isn't what I would want.

 

I thought she meant the posts about "Mine left his wife and now I have the ring"... I find those kind of posts gloating and insensitive ....But to continue to brag about it long after the fact shows me that some OWs do look at it as a competition which is stupid and which I believe perhaps sometimes rightfully brings on the comments of "find your own man that wasn't already married to someone else" and things along that line.

 

Again, SB, I completely agree with you!

 

 

I think being the WS, BS or OW all suck. Everyone here is just trying to deal with their respective relationship.

 

I agree with you too - lots of hurt from all angels, especially in my mind, the BS, because she isn't aware of the affair because if it is even hinted at by the BS to the cheating spouse, the cheating spouse minimizes the OW and then proceeds to gaslight the BS. The OW gets hurt too because she invests so much of herself - her WHOLE self - to a man who isn't reciprocating.

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I just read (and responded to) your thread.

 

Where exactly were people not nice to you? Because most people didn't say "Yeah, he loves you and you just keep waiting because he will eventually leave"? Because there was no cheerleading going on?

 

I believe many people gave you some good advice. Only YOU know your situation and only YOU know if you are willing to wait a week, a month or a year. But what you are doing is allowing him to control you, manipulate you and IMHO disrespect you. If he loves you as you believe, he would be treating you better and not keeping you a secret.

 

Not one person ridiculed you. I am not understanding exactly what you were expecting when you posted.

 

as I said before since I am new to opening up to ppl and this site and my whole situation on a whole, I was expecting ppl to say what I wanted to hear that's all.... But I also said that I am getting a little bit more used to the site and I appreciate the comments of all.....

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as I said before since I am new to opening up to ppl and this site and my whole situation on a whole, I was expecting ppl to say what I wanted to hear that's all.... But I also said that I am getting a little bit more used to the site and I appreciate the comments of all.....

 

This still doesn't explain why you said people ridiculed you when as far as I can see they didn't. If you now agree they didn't ridicule you then maybe it's time to retract.

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With all due respect Jennie, I'm not furnishing the link - because her stuff isn't worth my time to look up.

 

And also additionally I will say that she has tried to demean at least two former OW's insinuating their former MM didn't find them worth the quest. One of the former OW's was a new member.

 

I have seen that happen at one occasion, and that was in response to that specific former other woman stating that she for one did not "marry cheaters or former cheaters" but indeed "a man of integrity". She asked for it in my opinion.

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I agree with you too - lots of hurt from all angels, especially in my mind, the BS, because she isn't aware of the affair because if it is even hinted at by the BS to the cheating spouse, the cheating spouse minimizes the OW and then proceeds to gaslight the BS. The OW gets hurt too because she invests so much of herself - her WHOLE self - to a man who isn't reciprocating.

 

We all have our opinions on morality and ethics. I just don't think this is the forum for that. There is so much hurt involved in an A, imo that the last thing any poster here wants is more hurt.

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This still doesn't explain why you said people ridiculed you when as far as I can see they didn't. If you now agree they didn't ridicule you then maybe it's time to retract.

 

 

No I do not wish to retract anything.... When I came on here I didn't feel like ppl were saying exactly what I wanted to hear....At the time, that's all I wanted....I wanted to stay in my bubble that everything was ok.... as I studied this site a bit more I realized that it was constructive criticizm from all points of view and I have a different opinion now about the site.... Do u suggest everytime I have a change of opinion, I need to retract all my previous statements? Well I wil not.....

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Well, these forums wouldn't be half as interesting if there wasn't any b**ch slapping! ;)

 

Gotta say, I do love watching the "tennis games" sometimes....keeps me coming back! :laugh:

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Well, these forums wouldn't be half as interesting if there wasn't any b**ch slapping! ;)

 

Gotta say, I do love watching the "tennis games" sometimes....keeps me coming back! :laugh:

 

Lol I think it keeps everyone coming back.......

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Ironic that a thread about etiquette reads like a Jerry Springer transcript.

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:laugh::lmao::laugh::lmao:
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Hmm, I have been reading this site for more than a year and I can't recall any OW gloating about stealing other's husbands. Certainly not recently. :confused:

 

Here is the link to the Community Guidelines:

 

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Jennie, I agree, never saw the gloating....had to laugh...there are a handful of posters that break every rule each time they post in the OM/OW forum...

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We all have our opinions on morality and ethics. I just don't think this is the forum for that. There is so much hurt involved in an A, imo that the last thing any poster here wants is more hurt.

 

Few words, yet much wisdom. This is really well said LB, and I completely agree:)

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Ironic that a thread about etiquette reads like a Jerry Springer transcript.

 

This is actually quite calm...you haven't seen anything yet....

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I thought she meant the posts about "Mine left his wife and now I have the ring"... QUOTE]

 

Pureinheart, You haven't seen the gloating.. This (and others) was gloating.

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I thought she meant the posts about "Mine left his wife and now I have the ring"...

 

Pureinheart, You haven't seen the gloating.. This (and others) was gloating.

 

I do wonder if the bolded above is an actual quote. Quotation marks are only to be used if the words within them are word for word an exact quote.

 

And as we already have stated in this thread, there is a difference in perspective. Some posts are interpreted by some as gloating, by others just as stating the facts. Just as some posts are interpreted by some as bashing, by others as support.

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I do wonder if the bolded above is an actual quote. Quotation marks are only to be used if the words within them are word for word an exact quote.

 

And as we already have stated in this thread, there is a difference in perspective. Some posts are interpreted by some as gloating, by others just as stating the facts. Just as some posts are interpreted by some as bashing, by others as support.

 

Interpret it anyway you wish Jennie.

 

Apparently I wasn't the only one who picked up on it ..

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Interpret it anyway you wish Jennie.

 

Apparently I wasn't the only one who picked up on it ..

 

Interpretation is done on an individual basis. If you find a problem with a post, report it. The moderator is the only true judge here.

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