dispatch3d Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 Guys who don't act interested in me or who don't think I'm the cat's meow get nexted pretty fast. I don't have to "try" to prove myself or make somebody like me, either the guy does or does not want to date me. About the only thing your line would get with me and my friends is all of us laughing at you. I never really understood this mindset. I don't wish harm on anyone. I don't get it when girls are rude/bitchy/mean to random strangers. Even if they think they are "players" "puas" or whatever. I can't even think of a collective group of people I would "collectively laugh at". It doesn't bother me. To me this is just a waste of emotional effort. Kind of like getting mad at someone for longer than is absolutely necessary (a week max?). Obviously there are people who I'd prefer not to hang out with for various reasons. They earned that over long periods of time of being very ****ty to me. That's more I find them disrespectful and terrible human beings. I still wouldn't outwardly be a dick to them (except when they cross my boundaries, which they usually do to try to get a reaction, hence me just not bothering with them)............ have a good one!
waynebrady Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 Guys who don't act interested in me or who don't think I'm the cat's meow get nexted pretty fast. I don't have to "try" to prove myself or make somebody like me, either the guy does or does not want to date me. Yeah typical female double standards. It's always the guy who has to prove himself and put in all the effort. If I have to prove myself and put in all the effort to get a woman then obviously she does not really want to date me.
Author U1987 Posted October 13, 2010 Author Posted October 13, 2010 Most PUA tips seem to be about faking confidence to get the easy prey. Yes, but like I said in another thread, I'm looking for casual sex, not a serious relationship. I want "easy prey" not "quality women."
Woggle Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 You put it the wrong way but a woman should prove she is worth the effort before a makes invests too much energy into her.
Kamille Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 My initial reaction when reading the thread title was : "Of course, anyone should have standards as to who they let in their lives". I didn't realize the OP meant literally asking women to prove themselves. There's a difference between evaluating if you want to get to know someone further and trying to get them to fall for you by playing games. The OP sounds like he has no standards. If the girl falls for the tacky line, then he's achieved his goal. He never stops to ask himself: she's pretty, I'm physically attracted to her. Now, are we compatible? That's the problem with focusing primarily on getting laid. It makes you give all your cards away too fast.
dispatch3d Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Yes, but like I said in another thread, I'm looking for casual sex, not a serious relationship. I want "easy prey" not "quality women." the stuff pua's teach works better on quality women (even though every women will swear they are above this, and would never fall for something so obvious, blablabla). Not opening the can of beans here, just letting you know.
dispatch3d Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 My initial reaction when reading the thread title was : "Of course, anyone should have standards as to who they let in their lives". I didn't realize the OP meant literally asking women to prove themselves. There's a difference between evaluating if you want to get to know someone further and trying to get them to fall for you by playing games. The OP sounds like he has no standards. If the girl falls for the tacky line, then he's achieved his goal. He never stops to ask himself: she's pretty, I'm physically attracted to her. Now, are we compatible? That's the problem with focusing primarily on getting laid. It makes you give all your cards away too fast. I'm lost. The guy is asking the girl what she has going for herself besides her looks? How does any of that apply?
Kamille Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 I'm lost. The guy is asking the girl what she has going for herself besides her looks? How does any of that apply? I thought my point was crystal clear. It's simple: the OP is approaching the question from the angle of : "I want to get laid", first and not "Is this girl worth it?". Hence why he comes up with such a lame line. He doesn't get the logic behind the idea that people want something more if they have to work for it for the simple reason he has no standards, except, perhaps, physical standards. The OP doesn't really care what the girl has going besides her look. It's just a tactic to try to get an "easy prey", to quote him verbatim. Ergo, he misses the point of the idea that people want something more if they feel they have to work for it. People don't want to be insulted, they like to feel they merit what they get.
Anela Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 I'm lost. The guy is asking the girl what she has going for herself besides her looks? How does any of that apply? He doesn't really care whether or not she has anything else going for her, he just wants her to think he's not going for her looks - and to get her to chase him, convince him, rather than the other way around. Like that one PUA, Mystery, ignoring the pretty woman next to him (in a video I once saw, on youtube). She isn't used to being ignored, so he catches her attention, and she wonders what she has to do to get his attention (his plan the entire time).
dispatch3d Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 He doesn't really care whether or not she has anything else going for her, he just wants her to think he's not going for her looks - and to get her to chase him, convince him, rather than the other way around. Like that one PUA, Mystery, ignoring the pretty woman next to him (in a video I once saw, on youtube). She isn't used to being ignored, so he catches her attention, and she wonders what she has to do to get his attention (his plan the entire time). Funny you mention mystery in the same sentence as a line I'm 99% sure he created (Your beautiful, but beauty is very common. Name 3 things you have going for yourself besides your looks). Pretty sure that's what it is. That would be a veryyyyy hard qualifier... You two are actually going on to describe several things it does do after saying it's a pickup line. It isn't a pickup line.....
BruceLeroy Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 I always figured dating WAS proving yourself for both. Coming on all "prove yourself to me" out of either person just sounds like arrognce and picking a fight. Anyone with the basic senses can just observe and decide if what they need to have proven to them has been proven. If you're not expecting much and don't pay attention thats on you.
threebyfate Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 If you're looking for a surefire way to lose the girl, definitely try to get her to prove herself!
Taramere Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 That being said, would it ever be okay to say to a girl "So you're pretty cute. But so are half the girls in this room. What else do you have to offer" Inviting a woman to "sell" herself to you, as though you're the interview panel for a particularly exciting and well remunerated post with a blue chip company? Not realistic. If you were in a position to pull that off (and not many men, short of celebrities or extra-wealthy men responding to the full on attentions of groupies would be), you wouldn't be seeking out advice from PUA boards in the first place. If you find it difficult to talk to women, your best bet is to throw yourself into it and practice, practice, practice. As you get more comfortable with and around women, the banter and flirtation will come naturally... and you won't have to spend time angsting over tortuous and transparent tactics, or churning out rehearsed lines that (because they're not spontaneous) will at best sound cheesy and at worst might come out in a stuttered garble.
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