classof2014 Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 Do MOST (not all) American women have any expectations for their side of the relationship? I know the guy has to pay usually, initiate all contact, protect the girl, be a gentleman around her, help her out, etc. But since feminism it seems like traditional roles for women such as be ladylike around the guy, make sure he is happy, look pretty, help him out when he asks, etc. are no longer important for many women. What do you think the woman's role in a relationship should be? And do you concur with my statement above?
denise_xo Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 Do MOST (not all) American women have any expectations for their side of the relationship? I know the guy has to pay usually, initiate all contact, protect the girl, be a gentleman around her, help her out, etc. But since feminism it seems like traditional roles for women such as be ladylike around the guy, make sure he is happy, look pretty, help him out when he asks, etc. are no longer important for many women. What do you think the woman's role in a relationship should be? And do you concur with my statement above? Just to confirm you suspicions, yes we want the man to give absolutely everything and us to give absolutely nothing. Our role is purely to be loved and chased by you. Any other questions?
elaina Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 (edited) Do MOST (not all) American women Wise move have any expectations for their side of the relationship? I know the guy has to pay usually, initiate all contact, protect the girl, be a gentleman around her, help her out, etc. But since feminism it seems like traditional roles for women such as be ladylike around the guy, make sure he is happy, look pretty, help him out when he asks, etc. are no longer important for many women. What do you think the woman's role in a relationship should be? In my relationship right now,I consider the following to be my role (and you already listed many of them above.) 1. Work out and be physically fit to keep up with him! (He's really fit.) 2. Do my hair, make-up, wear nice but appropriate clothes. Be pretty. (except when i'm out in the woods, then no makeup ) 3. Laugh at his jokes. 4. Support his goals and cheer for him. Be his #1 fan in what he does. (i love what he does, by the way... one of the reasons he's my boyfriend... he is very much into helping the poor which is great!!!) 5. Do my best to show him I love him by my words and actions. Let him know I sincerely care about him and what he needs. 6. Have my phone charged and near by (I'm really bad at that; i'm not really a phone person.) 7. Sexually satisfy him And do you concur with my statement above? Which one? The one about the feminism? Edited October 10, 2010 by elaina
tami-chan Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 Just to confirm you suspicions, yes we want the man to give absolutely everything and us to give absolutely nothing. Our role is purely to be loved and chased by you. Any other questions? ..denise xo....easy.....he is trying to understand American women...so far, having a tough time, huh, classof2014?
Author classof2014 Posted October 10, 2010 Author Posted October 10, 2010 No. Ive already decided not to date America (Caucasian) women. Im just wondering if my assumptions regarding them are mostly and/or somewhat true?
waynebrady Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 Women's role in a relationship is to be completley passive, never put in any effort, never initiate contact, never instigate sex, always let the guy make the plans, always let the guy do the calling/texting, always let the guy work to get her, always let the guy make all the moves.
Woggle Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 Just to confirm you suspicions, yes we want the man to give absolutely everything and us to give absolutely nothing. Our role is purely to be loved and chased by you. Any other questions? Is this a joke?
Knittress Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 It's really, really something that's got to be worked out between the two people in the relationship. Various roles, like relationships, come in hundreds of different flavors - and a person often finds themselves playing different roles at different times and in different relationships.
Eclypse Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 How's this for both sexes: Provide loving emotional support and letting the other person be completely comfortable in knowing they have someone who loves them and is always there for them. Giving cuddles when someone is down or sad is very important in my opinion and would cheer anyone up. Things like that don't cost any money and they are the greatest things one can offer to another person.
brainygirl Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 2014, do you pose your questions like this all the time? It seems like you are trying to sound impartial, while clearly stating your opinion on the matter, and keeping yourself distant by referiing to "american women" as though you are not part of the demographic. It makes you sound incredibly silly and nieve. Relationships are all different, so are the people in this country who are in them. Therefore there is no one answer to what the expectations placed on the two people in the relationship are. MY answer is a generic "dating is supposed to make life more fun and richer" while someone else may have a numbered list of things they expect to do.
threebyfate Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 Do MOST (not all) American women have any expectations for their side of the relationship? I know the guy has to pay usually, initiate all contact, protect the girl, be a gentleman around her, help her out, etc. But since feminism it seems like traditional roles for women such as be ladylike around the guy, make sure he is happy, look pretty, help him out when he asks, etc. are no longer important for many women. What do you think the woman's role in a relationship should be? And do you concur with my statement above?You're not thinking large scale enough. This is applicable to the entire female gender on Earth. And yes, denise has pretty much covered it. Take care of us and you might get a little sex. But more likely not. Better to keep men whipped. Good luck in your dating. You too might find yourself a wonderful woman to spoil and pamper.
Eeyore79 Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 I make an effort to look good for him, so he finds me attractive and is proud to be with me. I cook for him, and take care of him as much as I can. I express my affection, and make him feel loved and wanted. I give him whatever he wants sexually, even if he doesn't always reciprocate; it's important to me that he's happy. I guess that's pretty much the traditional female role. I expect him to do at least some of the traditional male role in return though.
ComeUndone Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 No. Ive already decided not to date America (Caucasian) women. Im just wondering if my assumptions regarding them are mostly and/or somewhat true? Ok wait... you feel this issue is with American women or caucasian women, or American caucasian women?
Feelin Frisky Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 Women, the myth of purity, the reality of sin! Who can figure anything?
sanskrit Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 It makes you sound incredibly silly and nieve. Why not just answer his question or ignore the thread? as opposed to calling him incredibly silly and nieve (sic).
Anela Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 No. Ive already decided not to date America (Caucasian) women. Im just wondering if my assumptions regarding them are mostly and/or somewhat true? Why should we bother to answer your questions, when you've already decided that none of us (American/caucasian women) are worth it?
Anela Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 denise_xo said: Just to confirm you suspicions, yes we want the man to give absolutely everything and us to give absolutely nothing. Our role is purely to be loved and chased by you. Any other questions?
aerogurl87 Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 I feel my role in my relationship is to be supportive of my boyfriend, be the ear to listen to him when he needs to vent, the pillar to raise him up when life is beating him down, his best friend, and lover. I'll be everything he needs and wants me to be as we continue to grow in our relationship.
Untouchable_Fire Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 Just to confirm you suspicions, yes we want the man to give absolutely everything and us to give absolutely nothing. Our role is purely to be loved and chased by you. Any other questions? I'm going to take that to mean you only feel responsible to contribute snide remarks and sarcasm. Pass -1 Wise move In my relationship right now,I consider the following to be my role (and you already listed many of them above.) 1. Work out and be physically fit to keep up with him! (He's really fit.) 2. Do my hair, make-up, wear nice but appropriate clothes. Be pretty. (except when i'm out in the woods, then no makeup ) 3. Laugh at his jokes. 4. Support his goals and cheer for him. Be his #1 fan in what he does. (i love what he does, by the way... one of the reasons he's my boyfriend... he is very much into helping the poor which is great!!!) 5. Do my best to show him I love him by my words and actions. Let him know I sincerely care about him and what he needs. 6. Have my phone charged and near by (I'm really bad at that; i'm not really a phone person.) 7. Sexually satisfy him Which one? The one about the feminism? You are definitely a keeper! Lucky bastard. - Even ..denise xo....easy.....he is trying to understand American women...so far, having a tough time, huh, classof2014? I would classify this as condescension. Sorry Tami can't give you points for being awesome in other threads. -1 It's really, really something that's got to be worked out between the two people in the relationship. Various roles, like relationships, come in hundreds of different flavors - and a person often finds themselves playing different roles at different times and in different relationships. What your willing to provide in a relationship is "To Be Determined"? Undefined objectives typically lead to in-fighting and failure. Pass -2 How's this for both sexes: Provide loving emotional support and letting the other person be completely comfortable in knowing they have someone who loves them and is always there for them. Giving cuddles when someone is down or sad is very important in my opinion and would cheer anyone up. Things like that don't cost any money and they are the greatest things one can offer to another person. Nice ideas... but it's like your taking what you want and extending it to him too. Many guys I know would not be happy with just what you have listed here. -3 2014, do you pose your questions like this all the time? It seems like you are trying to sound impartial, while clearly stating your opinion on the matter, and keeping yourself distant by referiing to "american women" as though you are not part of the demographic. It makes you sound incredibly silly and nieve. Relationships are all different, so are the people in this country who are in them. Therefore there is no one answer to what the expectations placed on the two people in the relationship are. MY answer is a generic "dating is supposed to make life more fun and richer" while someone else may have a numbered list of things they expect to do. Condescending and undefined. - 4 You're not thinking large scale enough. This is applicable to the entire female gender on Earth. And yes, denise has pretty much covered it. Take care of us and you might get a little sex. But more likely not. Better to keep men whipped. Good luck in your dating. You too might find yourself a wonderful woman to spoil and pamper. More sarcasm, also condescending. - 5 I make an effort to look good for him, so he finds me attractive and is proud to be with me. I cook for him, and take care of him as much as I can. I express my affection, and make him feel loved and wanted. I give him whatever he wants sexually, even if he doesn't always reciprocate; it's important to me that he's happy. I guess that's pretty much the traditional female role. I expect him to do at least some of the traditional male role in return though. And there is another super lucky guy out there! - 4 Ok wait... you feel this issue is with American women or caucasian women, or American caucasian women? Your contribution is questions and confusion? Maybe some potential racism? - 5 Why should we bother to answer your questions, when you've already decided that none of us (American/caucasian women) are worth it? I take this to mean that a response is not deserved. Guaranteed relationship failure based on this attitude. - 6 I feel my role in my relationship is to be supportive of my boyfriend, be the ear to listen to him when he needs to vent, the pillar to raise him up when life is beating him down, his best friend, and lover. I'll be everything he needs and wants me to be as we continue to grow in our relationship. I think most guys would be very happy with this. - 5
Untouchable_Fire Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 8 to 3 is not the most promising ratio. Most women did not feeling inclined to talk about what they feel responsible in a relationship for and instead opting to talk about something else.
Anela Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 My question was genuine. What is the point in responding, if he isn't interested in the very women he's asking about? Are we supposed to convince him that we're worth it? Why? I know my role in a relationship, and it's neither subservient or domineering.
Untouchable_Fire Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 My question was genuine. What is the point in responding, if he isn't interested in the very women he's asking about? Are we supposed to convince him that we're worth it? Why? I know my role in a relationship, and it's neither subservient or domineering. The answer to your question is simple. He hasn't had pleasant experiences with the women he is asking... that is clear. He asks a question that is partly statement of that frustration. How you respond is up to you. You may respond negatively as most have... and reinforce his view. Or you can surprise him with a positive response... and if many more choose that type of response over time his view will change. When you act like he is something broken and unfixable... that nothing you say can change it... you reinforce all the negative experiences. Also... neither dominant nor subservient... Is that how you see relationships? As one or the other? I'm done with women who think like that. There is nothing wrong in serving one another in a relationship.
Anela Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) The answer to your question is simple. He hasn't had pleasant experiences with the women he is asking... that is clear. He asks a question that is partly statement of that frustration. How you respond is up to you. You may respond negatively as most have... and reinforce his view. Or you can surprise him with a positive response... and if many more choose that type of response over time his view will change. When you act like he is something broken and unfixable... that nothing you say can change it... you reinforce all the negative experiences. Also... neither dominant nor subservient... Is that how you see relationships? As one or the other? I'm done with women who think like that. There is nothing wrong in serving one another in a relationship. Well, it's a good thing that I'm not looking to date you. I'm done with power plays, and men trying to control me. (I'm neither subservient nor domineering - I was talking about having/wanting a mutually loving relationship.) The OP didn't have to point out that he had decided to never date American/caucasian women again... I wondered why he was asking, since he has already declared us to be broken, and alluded to the fact that our answers wouldn't change his mind. I don't feel a need to fix his attitude - an attitude that could reinforce some women's negative attitudes about men like him. Edited October 11, 2010 by Anela
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