KraftDinner Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 My boyfriend is tall and so are most of his friends... but his cutest friend, whom they have all nicknamed "Eyecandy" because women go crazy for him, is shorter than I am... I think he's 5'6" or so. His height hasn't hurt him at all! But if he went around complaining about how short he is and how mean women are, he wouldn't be half as attractive as he is.
USMCHokie Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 His height hasn't hurt him at all! But if he went around complaining about how short he is and how mean women are, he wouldn't be half as attractive as he is. Yep...attitude is what makes a lot of shorter guys walking around with a chip on their shoulder less attractive...
FryFish Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 If you pay close enough attention, you will notice that short guys usually have better looking faces than tall guys... Its not always true but it is something I have noticed... Tall guys are usually saddled with a goofy ass face.
threebyfate Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 If you pay close enough attention, you will notice that short guys usually have better looking faces than tall guys... Its not always true but it is something I have noticed... Tall guys are usually saddled with a goofy ass face.IME, I disagree. There are goofy ass faces at any height.
BS76 Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 Women evolved to be attracted to taller men naturally. Understanding why that is so is what's allowed me to date women tall and short without issue. Women are attracted to taller men because for our ancestors taller men had an advantage procuring resources and protecting the tribe. And that's the core emotions you need to evoke if you're shorter: safety and security, both physically and from a resource perspective. This is also why women are attracted to men of high social status in that status = resources & protection = survival.
AD1980 Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 Women evolved to be attracted to taller men naturally. Understanding why that is so is what's allowed me to date women tall and short without issue. Women are attracted to taller men because for our ancestors taller men had an advantage procuring resources and protecting the tribe. And that's the core emotions you need to evoke if you're shorter: safety and security, both physically and from a resource perspective. This is also why women are attracted to men of high social status in that status = resources & protection = survival. So the only way for a short guy to get women is to lift weights and make allot of money?
sanskrit Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 If you pay close enough attention, you will notice that short guys usually have better looking faces than tall guys... Its not always true but it is something I have noticed... Tall guys are usually saddled with a goofy ass face. Agree with this, hence the disproportionately low percentage of very tall leading men in movies in comparison to shorter to average height men. Most women wouldn't find Adrien Brody's face handsome at all if he were not Adrien Brody for example.
Disillusioned Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Danny deVito is no giant, but look at all the female attention he gets.
flying Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Having just watched the movie Let Me In, the title of this thread takes on a fun new meaning.
Yamaha Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Women evolved to be attracted to taller men naturally. Understanding why that is so is what's allowed me to date women tall and short without issue. Women are attracted to taller men because for our ancestors taller men had an advantage procuring resources and protecting the tribe. And that's the core emotions you need to evoke if you're shorter: safety and security, both physically and from a resource perspective. This is also why women are attracted to men of high social status in that status = resources & protection = survival. AVERAGE STATURE Australopithecus afarensis 92 lbs ( 4 ft 11 in Males 3 ft 5 in Females Australopithecus africanus 90 lbs 4 ft 6 in Males 3 ft 9 in Females ( Australopithecus robustus 119 lbs 3 ft 9 in Males 3 ft 3 in Females ( Australopithecus boisei 108 lbs 5 ft 4 in Males 4 ft 1 in Females earliest humans (Homo habilis) 114 lbs 5 ft 2 in Males 4 ft 1 in Females modern humans 1 (Homo sapiens) 144 lbs 5 ft 9 in Males 5 ft 3 in Females FYI Source anthro.palomar.edu/hominid/australo_2.htm
allina Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Women can't win when it comes to talking about height. If a woman likes tall guys she's called shallow, if she says height isn't an issue she's called a liar.
MeganDoll Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Heights a masculine trait to women a short guy doesnt look like a man he looks like a little wimp Its called Tall Dark and Handsome for a reason not short dark and handsome I just dont feel feminine and like a women when im with a short guy
allina Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 I just dont feel feminine and like a women when im with a short guy The way you feel about yourself based on a guy's height? I'm glad I'm feminine and attractive enough to feel good period, not just with a tall man on my arm.
Star Gazer Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Its called Tall Dark and Handsome for a reason ... Ha! I just used that line in another thread...
Content Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 (edited) Ive been lurking on these boards for awhile and figured id post after the 456362 male height thread Im a shorter dude who has no problem with women at all,have i been rejected before? sure.For my height? probably just as much as ive been rejected for my personality hair color lifestyle whatever that didnt mesh with a certain girl I have found that height is much more an online issue then real life issue because on dating sites u can state your specific or ideal peferences but it sometimes gets thrown out in the real world.Yeah you have some girls with harsh things to say about short guys and wont date a guy under 6 feet but you see their profile and realize these arent exactly the cream of the crop I find it hillarious these guys around 5'7 or 5'8 who are a inch or two under the average and within the average range for guys in this country and act like their 5 foot jockeys who women all ignore Do you honestly believe all women are such shallow naive prince charming spoonfed princesses that only tall men are able to get and attract women? My guess these guys brign far less to the table personality wise and facially then they think because at that height you should have no prolbem with women if you arent a social retard Go out and acutally talk to women instead of having a woe is me attitude and thinking one trait is holding you back from millions of women which is assinine Edited October 10, 2010 by Content
USMCHokie Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 I have found that height is much more an online issue then real life issue because on dating sites u can state your specific or ideal peferences but it sometimes gets thrown out in the real world. +1. I bet if you go up to a random girl while you're out and about and ask her how tall you are, she wouldn't be able to guess even within an inch or two. My guess these guys brign far less to the table personality wise and facially then they think because at that height you should have no prolbem with women if you arent a social retard Word.
that girl Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 I bet if you go up to a random girl while you're out and about and ask her how tall you are, she wouldn't be able to guess even within an inch or two. It is hard to guess height to begin with, but the further you are from someone in height I think the harder it gets. I'm 5'9" so if a guy says he is 6' when he is 5'10" odds are very good I'm going to notice. Meanwhile, more than once I've been introduced to a friend's boyfriend who she says is 6' or 6'2" only to meet him and realize he is way shorter.
Mad Max Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 It is hard to guess height to begin with, but the further you are from someone in height I think the harder it gets. I'm 5'9" so if a guy says he is 6' when he is 5'10" odds are very good I'm going to notice. Meanwhile, more than once I've been introduced to a friend's boyfriend who she says is 6' or 6'2" only to meet him and realize he is way shorter. Girls are horrible for the most part at judging height. Not only that, but many guys seem to boost their height. Some truly think they're taller than they really are. I've seen countless guys claim 6'0" when they're really 5'10"-5'11". I remember one guy that claimed 6'1"(my height) when he was really 5'11". I had a good 2 inches on him and he thought he was the same as me. I know I'm not 6'3", not even in shoes.
ascendotum Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 Heights a masculine trait to women a short guy doesnt look like a man he looks like a little wimp Its called Tall Dark and Handsome for a reason not short dark and handsome I just dont feel feminine and like a women when im with a short guy “My guess these guys brign far less to the table personality wise and facially then they think because at that height you should have no prolbem with women if you arent a social retard” ^I agree with this, though it’s not just as simple as this. I know guys who are on the short side who have attractive looking girlfriends/wives. What sets these guys apart from the other short guys who don’t do so well, is that these guys are handsome men, have outgoing charming personalities or are overtly masculine, tenacious men. Height is a big deal for most women and these guys have attributes that help offset their lack of stature. It’s great for some of the guys on LS who consider themselves below average in height but who still do well with the ladies. I know when the topic of short guys comes up and their dating adversity, women will always dispute it, because they know a short guy who does well so it must be the guy’s poor attitude, or because they once dated a short guy (maybe it was for 3 mths back in 1995) or they use the stardom of Tom Cruise as the classic rebuttal for any short guy who complains. There are enough studies out there now that just add to the one the OP linked to that show height is a big deal for women. There was another one I read about a few weeks back on short men and on-line dating, that basically told them to save their time + money and forget it. I remember reading an article in the media at least 8 years ago that found on a particular date site, 90% of women under 5'3 wanted a guy that was at least 6" taller than them. This is the big aspect that makes it so much harder for short guys, their available pool of options is so much shallower. You hear of short guy syndrome, but never little woman syndrome, and the hang ups they have over dating guys at their end of the gene pool. I certainly notice it over the years with the small build women I have known. Some women (especially when married) just don't get it, that when women are single and sexy they have different mind sets. As a thin build guy I have found the going tough. At one of the places I work I was having a discussion with a bunch of the married women about the difficulty of finding girlfriends for guys who are skinny/short/small build. They were assuring me that it made no difference at all, that it wouldn't be a big deal for them and that it was personality that was most important. I then went through the list of the girls in the dept who were short/thin/small build and under 36yo and their boyfriends. None of them were involved with guys who were their equivalent. The little Italian girl had a boyfriend that was average build and the other 7 were with guys bigger than average. Short girls -> tall guys, petite feminine girls -> big, boofy guys, the thin girls -> tough badass type guys. Going through their boyfriends & type of guys they take home after Friday nite drinks, pretty much shut down the conversation. Two of the women at some period later admitted to my point, but it was only in a one on one conversation when no one else would hear. As my career, I work in a number of different organizations, and invariably short or smaller build guys will comprise the single guys at the sites. I listen to the conversations of the women in regards to these guys and many of the women (single / not overweight / under 36) despise these guys especially if the guys show interest in them. It’s definitely more than them just not being 'their type'. I admit many women do not have this harsh attitude, but the thing is the theme of tall = better, more desirable and short = the inverse, flows through the ranks of women. Not every woman has MeganDoll’s view but I’d wager most do when they are younger + slimmer. It is easy for short guys to feel they are getting a hard time, especially if they benchmark themselves against tall guys. The guys I know who are tall definitely have a much easier time picking up, and if they are good looking, the panties fly off for these guys. I work with professional career women, and I have overheard enough conversations over the years to know as part of their greater expectations in life, a tall guy = better guy and short guy tends to = creep. Many of these women really have selective personalities when it comes to overtly masculine men vs non masculine men. I know from my experiences when my weight changed over the years (bulked up vs skinny) that it made a massive difference in women's level of friendliness, flirtatiousness and approachability. Whats the saying, 'walk a mile in someone else’s shoes'. Short build guys are not doomed to spend their lives single, but of the ones I do know that are just average Joe’s in looks + personality, they usually spend numerous years single and when they do get a girlfriend they date down. A guy (5’6) I know at the gym told me how he’s noticed women are more friendly in the past few years since he turned 40. Too little too late was his wry comment.
Content Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 “ Short build guys are not doomed to spend their lives single, but of the ones I do know that are just average Joe’s in looks + personality, they usually spend numerous years single . Anyone Tall or Short whos just average looks wise and personality wise isnt gonna have women flocking to them Do you honestly think an ugly Tall guy or shy socialy awkward tall guy has an easy time with women? I know plenty of tall men who are awful with women Facial features is as or more important then height,im sure as long as were not talking extremes and Danny Devito size a slighlty shorter guy with a handsome face would do better then a tall average or ugly looking guy You make it seem like womne just flock to tallness no matter what the rest looks like
donnamaybe Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 Its called Tall Dark and Handsome for a reason not short dark and handsome Alright. All you guys with blonde hair might as well give up now.
Eeyore79 Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 I know a guy who's 6ft1, age 25, and never had a girlfriend. He's extremely shy though, and about 50-60 pounds overweight, wears thick glasses and is as hairy as sasquatch. According to your theory that tall men are more popular, he should have women throwing their panties at him left, right and centre, so why is he still single? Height isn't everything.
Author SteveC80 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) The only hope for you short guys is that some show on mtv or something comes out that has allot of women dating short guys and it promotes the idea that short Men can be attrtactive and takes away the stigma of datign a short Man in this society. Wheter its pc to say or not allot of women are sheep who follow popular trends and also look for high status in a mate and acceptance by other people in their choice of a mate,dating a short guy brings neither Sort of like how allot of women of other races who usually only date their own started to get curious about black guys and date them more when they became the dominant entertainers/athletes in this country and while negatively srereotyped in soem ways are also stereotyped as being cool mysterious and charismatic.. Short guys have no positive stereotypes as of now..You may say why do you need that to get dates but women are extremely impressionable creatures.. Edited October 11, 2010 by SteveC80
flying Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 OK, I'm really curious about this. So when women come on to a thread like this and say they date short guys (let's say 5'8" and below), and guys who are that height or less say they get dates and height isn't a significant issue for them, do you just ignore that data or assume they're all lying? I know it is futile for me even to ask this. And yet, I do ask, because I will never understand why the people who start these threads assume that any and all challenges to their hypotheses are irrelevant.
USMCHokie Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 OK, I'm really curious about this. So when women come on to a thread like this and say they date short guys (let's say 5'8" and below), and guys who are that height or less say they get dates and height isn't a significant issue for them, do you just ignore that data or assume they're all lying? I know it is futile for me even to ask this. And yet, I do ask, because I will never understand why the people who start these threads assume that any and all challenges to their hypotheses are irrelevant. People tend to give the highest regard to their own experiences and formulate the "truth" of the way the world works based on those experiences. Especially in a topic such as this where "short men" are so emotionally attached, it is difficult to sway their thinking with experiences of other people. And of course, it's also possible that these folks have the attitude that nothing they think could possibly be wrong...
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