Author RATED-RKOFRANKLIN Posted October 5, 2010 Author Posted October 5, 2010 Dude I would try to hook it up with the white girl in the 3rd pic. She seems to be looking in your direction longingly and she looks hot. She is my friend's girlfriend and she is not into black guys.
ConflictedGuy27 Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 your responses sound all too familiar Franklyn... be a selibate monk & stop bitching... unless, you CHOOSE to square with your self image. Franklyn: "oh but ConflictedGuy, im already doing what you & everybody else told me and I swear none of it works..." that look about right?? you need a male role model. I know for a FACT you have no male friends... if you did you would be waaaay past this complex, as you would have been ripped on constantly until you fixed your damn deficiency by mimicking the pack. let's not run a marathon before you can even crawl... learn some social skills, make some platonic friends then hang out... the rest should take care if itself for an ordinary person.
Author RATED-RKOFRANKLIN Posted October 5, 2010 Author Posted October 5, 2010 your responses sound all too familiar Franklyn... be a selibate monk & stop bitching... unless, you CHOOSE to square with your self image. Franklyn: "oh but ConflictedGuy, im already doing what you & everybody else told me and I swear none of it works..." that look about right?? you need a male role model. I know for a FACT you have no male friends... if you did you would be waaaay past this complex, as you would have been ripped on constantly until you fixed your damn deficiency by mimicking the pack. let's not run a marathon before you can even crawl... learn some social skills, make some platonic friends then hang out... the rest should take care if itself for an ordinary person. So since I have no dating life that means I have no friends? Your comment is so illogical. If you actually looked at a few of the pictures I am hanging out with friends. I have friends and we do hangout. Social skills are not a problem for me at all. Telling a guy to do positive things do NOT guarantee any woman will find him attractive. NO one is guaranteed to get a woman no matter how good his game is. Just reading some rude bias comments like "you're slouching", but I'm standing straight. "Women are not into you so you must not have friends", but in my pictures I am with friends. "Your problem is confidence", but confidence is useless if there is no physical attraction. There is no such thing as "mimicking the pack". That belief is ridiculous. That belief only comes close to jocks. Somethings are not attractive for some guys to girls, but some guys can make the same thing sexy for girls because it depends on the guy. My male friends do not hit on girls the same way. They have different methods and the methods work for them. The only thing I can agree with is that I don't know what my self image is because people always assume different things about me.
ConflictedGuy27 Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 (edited) it's very simple Franklyn: guys court, and women choose. guys can control the courting part and boost the odds of a woman choosing him. we call this "game". I'd say roughly 35% - 40% of a woman's choice has to do with your look. don't believe it? go to the mall & take a look at 20 couples. most guys won't look like brad pitt, man... nor will they look like quasi modo - however, there they are, with a girl. my point: even "ugly" people find love; and you aren't ugly... that seems to be the part you obsess over; however, I submit to you that your true issue lies in the other 60% of the process. I believe this is why people keep zeroing in on your 'confidence'. it's basically you obsessing over the part of the courting process we have the least control over and that behavior reeks of self doubt >> aka lack of cofidence in one's self. read some books about attraction. that may be a good start for you (and by start, I mean the beginning of you putting down the "I'm ugly" axe and picking up the "perhaps my game needs some work" axe). Edited October 5, 2010 by ConflictedGuy27
AD1980 Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 You gotta crawl before you walk truth is you might have to hit on some ugly girls first to get your cofnidence up Average or even medicore looking women have way more options then average/medicore Men point blank and theyll usually pick the best option they have so your gonna have to date down at first and be the best looking option some homely girl has
BS76 Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 Hi everyone! I'm Franklin! I never had a kiss, girlfriend, and date in my life. I want to turn things around. I'm looking for a relationship, not a one night stand. People on the forum has given me advice many months ago. I simply stopped posting in the topic because of flaming. Anyways people tell me that I have a good personality. I'm funny and outgoing. I'm mostly into football, basketball, Brett Favre, shopping, and a little bit into video games. Before early this wear I wore a lot of sports apparel, but I changed my style. People including women have complimented me on my clothes. I also brought new better fitting glasses last December(I can't wear contacts). I've been trying to grow a beard for a while, but my sideburns are not growing down my face. What I think hurts me the most with women is the fact I have deformed ears. They are noticeable. People lie that they are not noticeable. How much are my ears turning off women? Here are my most recent pictures this year. http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb31/RATED-RKO_2007/Franklin/?action=view¤t=mms_picture3.jpg http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb31/RATED-RKO_2007/Franklin/?action=view¤t=mms_picture11.jpg http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb31/RATED-RKO_2007/Franklin/?action=view¤t=62823_553709804588_63702487_31972560_5163961_n.jpg http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb31/RATED-RKO_2007/Franklin/?action=view¤t=60181_553709729738_63702487_31972555_7035280_n.jpg http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb31/RATED-RKO_2007/Franklin/?action=view¤t=26319_1373996716444_1427601383_1033072_7748003_n.jpg http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb31/RATED-RKO_2007/Franklin/?action=view¤t=26319_1373996556440_1427601383_1033068_5931617_n.jpg http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb31/RATED-RKO_2007/Franklin/?action=view¤t=26319_1373996596441_1427601383_1033069_1881272_n.jpg http://s210.photobucket.com/albums/bb31/RATED-RKO_2007/Franklin/?action=view¤t=19864_1320474178414_1427601383_913028_3379254_n.jpg What do I need to do to become attractive to women? I'm open to most suggestions. What types of women like to date men like myself in terms of looks and personality? Good looking and being attractive are two separate things. You can be the best looking guy in town and never get a date. Brad Pitt had that problem and it wasn't until he got famous that women started paying him any attention. You know why? Women are attracted to high status men. It's just their nature to be hypergamous, aka marrying up. Best thing you can do is learn Game and figure out how to make yourself more attractive to women. The female version of this is makeup, tight clothes, and a pushup bra as guys are more visually attracted. Women on the other hand are less so and you've got to improve your status, or at least learn to subcommunicate like you do.
AD1980 Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 Good looking and being attractive are two separate things. You can be the best looking guy in town and never get a date. Brad Pitt had that problem and it wasn't until he got famous that women started paying him any attention. You know why? Women are attracted to high status men. It's just their nature to be hypergamous, aka marrying up. Best thing you can do is learn Game and figure out how to make yourself more attractive to women. The female version of this is makeup, tight clothes, and a pushup bra as guys are more visually attracted. Women on the other hand are less so and you've got to improve your status, or at least learn to subcommunicate like you do. I higlhy doubt Brad Pitt had trouble getting women even at a young age I also wouldnt want a women who wants me for my "status"
BS76 Posted October 5, 2010 Posted October 5, 2010 I higlhy doubt Brad Pitt had trouble getting women even at a young age I also wouldnt want a women who wants me for my "status" A) he talked about it in interviews years ago. B) get used to it. what men and women find attractive varies due to how we evolved. men go for characteristics that denote fertilty and health whereas women go for providers and protectors. Being "high status" what women go for naturally. An example is how crazy girls were for the beetles when you see them melting down in old concert footage, groupies, girls in high school swooning for the quarterback/homecoming & prom king, and so on. It's all the same dynamic at play and looks has a much smaller part that most people realize, especially compared to how importantly looks are for men.
Mad Max Posted October 6, 2010 Posted October 6, 2010 B) get used to it. what men and women find attractive varies due to how we evolved. men go for characteristics that denote fertilty and health whereas women go for providers and protectors. Being "high status" what women go for naturally. An example is how crazy girls were for the beetles when you see them melting down in old concert footage, groupies, girls in high school swooning for the quarterback/homecoming & prom king, and so on. It's all the same dynamic at play and looks has a much smaller part that most people realize, especially compared to how importantly looks are for men. It's pretty obvious when someone wants you because of your status and I wouldn't put up with it either. Most people are of average looks, height, income, and what do you know...status. These people get married and have kids. If a woman is after you because of your status, run. And now, we don't have to get used to it. Not all women go after the highest status guys.
Mad Max Posted October 6, 2010 Posted October 6, 2010 Good looking and being attractive are two separate things. You can be the best looking guy in town and never get a date. Brad Pitt had that problem and it wasn't until he got famous that women started paying him any attention. You know why? Women are attracted to high status men. It's just their nature to be hypergamous, aka marrying up. Best thing you can do is learn Game and figure out how to make yourself more attractive to women. The female version of this is makeup, tight clothes, and a pushup bra as guys are more visually attracted. Women on the other hand are less so and you've got to improve your status, or at least learn to subcommunicate like you do. If you're good looking, you can get a date as long as you put yourself out there. Game isn't required. I don't use game and never had a problem. I'm not the highest status guy, don't pretend to be, and never had a problem with women. I don't cater to other peoples wants and needs, subconscious or not.
ConflictedGuy27 Posted October 6, 2010 Posted October 6, 2010 (edited) It's pretty obvious when someone wants you because of your status and I wouldn't put up with it either. Most people are of average looks, height, income, and what do you know...status. These people get married and have kids. If a woman is after you because of your status, run. And now, we don't have to get used to it. Not all women go after the highest status guys. this is where you're wrong, Max -- there's not necessarily a need to run... a women being attracted to a man's status is damn near the same as I guy drooling over awesome cleavage. we have human nature to thank for that, and it's not a bad thing. just because I like (and enjoy) a nice rack doesn't make me any less able to be a good partner to a woman, anymore than her attraction to some aspect of a man diminishes hers. regardless of how you may feel about this phenomenon doesn't make it any less true. understand this concept and use it to your advantage, Max. Edited October 6, 2010 by ConflictedGuy27
Mad Max Posted October 6, 2010 Posted October 6, 2010 this is where you're wrong, Max -- there's not necessarily a need to run... a women being attracted to a man's status is damn near the same as I guy drooling over awesome cleavage. we have human nature to thank for that, and it's not a bad thing. just because I like (and enjoy) a nice rack doesn't make me any less able to be a good partner to a woman, anymore than her attraction to some aspect of a man diminishes hers. regardless of how you may feel about this phenomenon doesn't make it any less true. understand this concept and use it to your advantage, Max. Status can change in a heartbeat, looks don't. Anyone that is after me because of my status stands no chance.
Author RATED-RKOFRANKLIN Posted October 10, 2010 Author Posted October 10, 2010 You gotta crawl before you walk truth is you might have to hit on some ugly girls first to get your cofnidence up Average or even medicore looking women have way more options then average/medicore Men point blank and theyll usually pick the best option they have so your gonna have to date down at first and be the best looking option some homely girl has I won't date someone I'm not attracted to. Status can change in a heartbeat, looks don't. Anyone that is after me because of my status stands no chance. I don't know if this is much status or not. I'm treasurer of an honors society on campus, a member of a club, and is known by some people on campus.
welikeincrowds Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 Just reading some rude bias comments like "you're slouching", but I'm standing straight. "Women are not into you so you must not have friends", but in my pictures I am with friends. "Your problem is confidence", but confidence is useless if there is no physical attraction. You want "rude bias comments"? Get ready for them. You're an idiot for thinking people are insulting you by giving you advice. It was extremely aggravating to hear you dismiss my advice as a personal attack (???) when I spent time and effort writing multiple paragraphs for you with no other motivation than to simply help you become a better person. So you think you're standing straight. Whatever bro, then you're standing straight. Even though your shoulders are raised and your neck is lowered. Even though you're holding your arms to your sides like they're solid planks of wood nailed to your shoulders. You're not bad in every picture. You just have a general hunch and stiffness. It reflects your generally hunched and stiff personality quite well, I would say. Loosen the **** up, or don't. Regardless of whether or not you "have friends" -- ConflictedGuy's point rhetorically stands. You should have had this degree of insecurity beaten out of you during your formative years, but you haven't, so you have to deal with it now. Do you hear what I'm saying? You didn't deal with it then, SO YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT NOW. You can start by not taking things so personally. Especially on the damn internet.
Author RATED-RKOFRANKLIN Posted October 10, 2010 Author Posted October 10, 2010 You want "rude bias comments"? Get ready for them. You're an idiot for thinking people are insulting you by giving you advice. It was extremely aggravating to hear you dismiss my advice as a personal attack (???) when I spent time and effort writing multiple paragraphs for you with no other motivation than to simply help you become a better person. So you think you're standing straight. Whatever bro, then you're standing straight. Even though your shoulders are raised and your neck is lowered. Even though you're holding your arms to your sides like they're solid planks of wood nailed to your shoulders. You're not bad in every picture. You just have a general hunch and stiffness. It reflects your generally hunched and stiff personality quite well, I would say. Loosen the **** up, or don't. Regardless of whether or not you "have friends" -- ConflictedGuy's point rhetorically stands. You should have had this degree of insecurity beaten out of you during your formative years, but you haven't, so you have to deal with it now. Do you hear what I'm saying? You didn't deal with it then, SO YOU HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT NOW. You can start by not taking things so personally. Especially on the damn internet. In the pictures I posted I am never hunched. My neck is not lower in the pictures at all. If my neck was lowered then my head and face would be lowered to my shoulders. The only thing I agree with you about is the stiffness in picture with my arms side by side. I've been trying to deal with my insecurity for years. Not much has changed over the years. Even homely women have no interest in me. It's difficult to be secure when hearing negative comments from women in all ranges of attractiveness/unattractive and leagues.
welikeincrowds Posted October 10, 2010 Posted October 10, 2010 It's difficult to be secure when hearing negative comments from women in all ranges of attractiveness/unattractive and leagues. Oh please. It's difficult to be secure when you're a burn victim and your face is made of skin grafted from your back. You look perfectly fine. What those bitches said doesn't matter. There will be more haters. The most unattractive thing about you is not that you have ears or glasses, it's that you pity yourself. You're not even out of college. Start believing in your capabilities, and be thankful.
EricaH329 Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 Telling a guy to do positive things do NOT guarantee any woman will find him attractive. Nothing is guaranteed in life, so why not experiment with a few things that people are suggesting and see if it works? And I don't mean try it out for a week and look for results. Make it a habit of being positive. If for no one else, do it for yourself. You'll feel better. "Your problem is confidence", but confidence is useless if there is no physical attraction. Ok, say if there was a girl that was physically attracted to you. What happens then, if you don't have any confidence?
Author RATED-RKOFRANKLIN Posted October 11, 2010 Author Posted October 11, 2010 Oh please. It's difficult to be secure when you're a burn victim and your face is made of skin grafted from your back. You look perfectly fine. What those bitches said doesn't matter. There will be more haters. The most unattractive thing about you is not that you have ears or glasses, it's that you pity yourself. You're not even out of college. Start believing in your capabilities, and be thankful. It is also difficult to be secure by being born with an ear deformity. You're right the self pity needs to stop. It's a bad habit that I need to get out of with a lot of work. Nothing is guaranteed in life, so why not experiment with a few things that people are suggesting and see if it works? And I don't mean try it out for a week and look for results. Make it a habit of being positive. If for no one else, do it for yourself. You'll feel better. Ok, say if there was a girl that was physically attracted to you. What happens then, if you don't have any confidence? I've been doing the things people advised me to change in my last topics. I've changed glasses and clothing styles. Last year I started to buy better fitting clothes. I've always been social and networking with people. I've been working out for 2 years. This of these changes have made any difference. That's why I made this topic. If a girl was attracted me then I would try to get to know her if I'm attracted to her.
EricaH329 Posted October 11, 2010 Posted October 11, 2010 I've been doing the things people advised me to change in my last topics. I've changed glasses and clothing styles. Last year I started to buy better fitting clothes. I've always been social and networking with people. I've been working out for 2 years. This of these changes have made any difference. That's why I made this topic. If a girl was attracted me then I would try to get to know her if I'm attracted to her. If you are doing everything on the outside (physical appearance) that people are suggesting, and you still aren't seeing any difference, then maybe (just maybe) it isn't your appearance that is turning girls away?? Just a thought... And what I meant by asking if a girl was attracted to you, wasn't what you would do if a girl found you attractive, it's what they would do if you don't have any confidence.
Author RATED-RKOFRANKLIN Posted October 21, 2010 Author Posted October 21, 2010 If you are doing everything on the outside (physical appearance) that people are suggesting, and you still aren't seeing any difference, then maybe (just maybe) it isn't your appearance that is turning girls away?? Just a thought... And what I meant by asking if a girl was attracted to you, wasn't what you would do if a girl found you attractive, it's what they would do if you don't have any confidence. There's nothing wrong with who I am on the inside. I'm social and out going. I have a very good sense of humor. People tell me that I have a great personality without me asking them. There's nothing about me that is socially awkward. I'm sure it's my looks and my ears. I know this stereotypical chubby redneck on campus who is nasty, and all types of women love him. They find him to be very cute. My other friend has not shaved in over a year with the Jesus look, and women find them to be sexy. I saw a doctor Tuesday about getting surgery done ASAP. Him and his nurse submitted forms to my insurance to see if they will accept the coverage. I've spoken to my insurance about the coverage. They only cover it when it is needed for social, psychological, mental, or physical needs.
SteveC80 Posted October 21, 2010 Posted October 21, 2010 There's nothing wrong with who I am on the inside. I'm social and out going. I have a very good sense of humor. People tell me that I have a great personality without me asking them. There's nothing about me that is socially awkward. I'm sure it's my looks and my ears. I know this stereotypical chubby redneck on campus who is nasty, and all types of women love him. They find him to be very cute. My other friend has not shaved in over a year with the Jesus look, and women find them to be sexy. I saw a doctor Tuesday about getting surgery done ASAP. Him and his nurse submitted forms to my insurance to see if they will accept the coverage. I've spoken to my insurance about the coverage. They only cover it when it is needed for social, psychological, mental, or physical needs. I say if it gets results then get it done People on here are giving you fluff saying its all about confidence, loving yourself dont listen to them that doesnt get you dates Its a shallow world and relatiosnhips are more about animal lust then people are willing to admit Yeah its about more then just that to sustain a relationship but without that lust it doesnt get its foot in the door
Author RATED-RKOFRANKLIN Posted November 20, 2010 Author Posted November 20, 2010 I'm having surgery next month to fix my deformity. Hopefully now I will able acceptable to date. Do you guys think I will be able to start attracting at least decent white women?
USMCHokie Posted November 20, 2010 Posted November 20, 2010 Do you guys think I will be able to start attracting at least decent white women? Fixing your ears isn't going to make as big a difference as you think it will...unless it makes you feel more confident and makes you believe in yourself...i.e., placebo effect...
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