I need avdice from young women preferably in college!

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

Hmmm. Your standards don't seem bad to me. However, there you may come into contact with a woman who might only fit your criteria 70-80%, if not less or slightly more. If that were to happen, would you still be open to building on something with her?

 

I don't which standard I would be less accepting of having in a partner. I would have a hard time accepting a trait that is less than what I can offer.

[bac]

I did not read the whole thread, but why don't you want to do plastic surgery on your ears? IMO It should not not be a big deal. I have no idea about the price but probably it is around $2000-3000-4000. Just find a doctor who really knows what to do.

[bac]

Some complaints were solely based on my ears. Other complaints I do not know because of body language and just saying that I am ugly.

 

I pursue this type of woman.

 

Theses are my standards. I only pursue white women. In the past I have pursued other races of women, but I am mostly attracted to white women.

 

1. She must be a christian. I want someone who has the same religious beliefs as I do. The type of christianity does not matter.

 

2. She must be slender. I am not attracted to women who are fat. I take care of myself so I would want someone who would do the same for themselves when it comes to weight.

 

3. She must have class and respect for herself.

 

4. She must be clean. All I am asking is for a woman to take care of herself. Be nicely groomed.

 

5. She must dress nice. I'm not attracted to the "dress down don't comb my hair style".

 

6. We must have good commutation. I believe a good relationship needs good communication.

 

 

Do you mean bad as below average or bad as in average?

 

Are you serious? How old are you? How much money do you make?

[Green]

I'm a young women and preferably in college and the only advice I can give to you is spread some legs and pound it hard!

[Mad Max]

Are you serious? How old are you? How much money do you make?

 

 

He posted this same thing in at least 2 other forums. He's in college.

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

Are you serious? How old are you? How much money do you make?

 

I'm 21 and I'm going to college. Why does money matter?

 

I did not read the whole thread, but why don't you want to do plastic surgery on your ears? IMO It should not not be a big deal. I have no idea about the price but probably it is around $2000-3000-4000. Just find a doctor who really knows what to do.

 

The pricing and the work on the surgery is very odd. It only takes between 30 minutes to 2 hours to finish. Doctors are charging me $5000 for the surgery. I'm not surgery expert, but it seems odd to me that the cost is so much for very little work to be done.

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

Any advice ladies? Please?

[PJKino]

I took MAx's advice and hit on a very overweight homely girl whos my friends wifes friend..

 

We had a nice conversation i then asked my friends wife about her and she said she thinks im a nice guy but not attracted ot me like that:laugh:

 

If im gonna continue to get rejected and not be good neough for women i might as well get rejected by women im actually attracted to in hopes ones legally blind and says yes one day..

[welikeincrowds]

I'm not a woman.

 

Your obvious biggest hurdle, as has been told you to many times, is your confidence. You have all your limbs and your face hasn't been burned off; someone out there is going to find you attractive. But that's not the point. You need to be happy with yourself. This is your body, yours. It's special and it's the only on you will ever have for the rest of your life. It's you.

 

I can understand the complexity of your emotions, stemming from long-term feelings of rejection -- but it seems ridiculous to dislike yourself for reasons outside of yourself.Imagine if you never saw a magazine or TV ad, or you lived (comfortably) in the wilderness. Do you think you would have the same opinion about your looks? Have you ever considered that your ears could be an endearing quality? Something people remember and think of you fondly by? We tell people how they should see us, in so many ways. If you are embarrassed by your ears, for example, others will be embarrassed by them too. If you don't think you're valuable, no one else will.

 

With that in mind: after looking at your pictures, I'm guessing your second biggest hurdle is body language.

 

You seem to have poor posture. You look like you're hunched or your neck is slouched in most of your pictures. If you improve this your "attractiveness" will skyrocket. It's amazing how much slouching communicates, and in most cases it's not a message you want to send. Did you see that study about women preferring height? Yes that's common knowledge, and no it's not 100% be-all end-all as some men focus on -- but who cares, you're tall! But it's not just the number, 6'0", 6'2". It's height as a symbol of power and confidence. You have to embrace your height: keep your shoulders straight, chest high, head up. Men tend to spread out and take up space, whereas women tend to contract. This is the biggest ingredient in presence. Paying attention to this will do wonders for you, for more reasons than one.

 

A quick way to solve this problem is to go to the gym. Working out and paying attention to your form seems to be a natural step toward better posture.

 

You seem to be a little "goofy" based on your photos having fun with your bros. This is absolutely fine -- but when you're flirting with a woman, be aware of your body. You want to slow down. Slow down your speech, slow down your motions. Just be a constant, even force. It's kind of like animals stalk prey; make no sudden movements, but never stop moving closer. Men seem to do this naturally; if you pay attention to the next couple you see, you'll see it.

 

You're going to fail, and you're going to keep failing, believe me. Failure is not "something is wrong with you." It's one of two equally valuable outcomes; it's an arrow at a fork that pointed you in the wrong direction. Every time you fail you get closer to your goal. If you're not failing, you're not succeeding. Keep going.

Edited October 4, 2010 by welikeincrowds

[PJKino]

I'm not a woman.

 

Your obvious biggest hurdle, as has been told you to many times, is your confidence. You have all your limbs and your face hasn't been burned off; someone out there is going to find you attractive. But that's not the point. You need to be happy with yourself. This is your body, yours. It's special and it's the only on you will ever have for the rest of your life. It's you.

 

I can understand the complexity of your emotions, stemming from long-term feelings of rejection -- but it seems ridiculous to dislike yourself for reasons outside of yourself.Imagine if you never saw a magazine or TV ad, or you lived (comfortably) in the wilderness. Do you think you would have the same opinion about your looks? Have you ever considered that your ears could be an endearing quality? Something people remember and think of you fondly by? We tell people how they should see us, in so many ways. If you are embarrassed by your ears, for example, others will be embarrassed by them too. If you don't think you're valuable, no one else will.

 

With that in mind: after looking at your pictures, I'm guessing your second biggest hurdle is body language.

 

You seem to have poor posture. You look like you're hunched or your neck is slouched in most of your pictures. If you improve this your "attractiveness" will skyrocket. It's amazing how much slouching communicates, and in most cases it's not a message you want to send. Did you see that study about women preferring height? Yes that's common knowledge, and no it's not 100% be-all end-all as some men focus on -- but who cares, you're tall! But it's not just the number, 6'0", 6'2". It's height as a symbol of power and confidence. You have to embrace your height: keep your shoulders straight, chest high, head up. Men tend to spread out and take up space, whereas women tend to contract. This is the biggest ingredient in presence. Paying attention to this will do wonders for you, for more reasons than one.

 

A quick way to solve this problem is to go to the gym. Working out and paying attention to your form seems to be a natural step toward better posture.

 

You seem to be a little "goofy" based on your photos having fun with your bros. This is absolutely fine -- but when you're flirting with a woman, be aware of your body. You want to slow down. Slow down your speech, slow down your motions. Just be a constant, even force. It's kind of like animals stalk prey; make no sudden movements, but never stop moving closer. Men seem to do this naturally; if you pay attention to the next couple you see, you'll see it.

 

You're going to fail, and you're going to keep failing, believe me. Failure is not "something is wrong with you." It's one of two equally valuable outcomes; it's an arrow at a fork that pointed you in the wrong direction. Every time you fail you get closer to your goal. If you're not failing, you're not succeeding. Keep going.

 

Well at least you admitted how much of a factor height is to women..Im not only unattratcive but short

[PJKino]

I'm not a woman.

 

Your obvious biggest hurdle, as has been told you to many times, is your confidence. You have all your limbs and your face hasn't been burned off; someone out there is going to find you attractive. But that's not the point. You need to be happy with yourself. This is your body, yours. It's special and it's the only on you will ever have for the rest of your life. It's you.

 

I can understand the complexity of your emotions, stemming from long-term feelings of rejection -- but it seems ridiculous to dislike yourself for reasons outside of yourself.Imagine if you never saw a magazine or TV ad, or you lived (comfortably) in the wilderness. Do you think you would have the same opinion about your looks? Have you ever considered that your ears could be an endearing quality? Something people remember and think of you fondly by? We tell people how they should see us, in so many ways. If you are embarrassed by your ears, for example, others will be embarrassed by them too. If you don't think you're valuable, no one else will.

 

With that in mind: after looking at your pictures, I'm guessing your second biggest hurdle is body language.

 

You seem to have poor posture. You look like you're hunched or your neck is slouched in most of your pictures. If you improve this your "attractiveness" will skyrocket. It's amazing how much slouching communicates, and in most cases it's not a message you want to send. Did you see that study about women preferring height? Yes that's common knowledge, and no it's not 100% be-all end-all as some men focus on -- but who cares, you're tall! But it's not just the number, 6'0", 6'2". It's height as a symbol of power and confidence. You have to embrace your height: keep your shoulders straight, chest high, head up. Men tend to spread out and take up space, whereas women tend to contract. This is the biggest ingredient in presence. Paying attention to this will do wonders for you, for more reasons than one.

 

A quick way to solve this problem is to go to the gym. Working out and paying attention to your form seems to be a natural step toward better posture.

 

You seem to be a little "goofy" based on your photos having fun with your bros. This is absolutely fine -- but when you're flirting with a woman, be aware of your body. You want to slow down. Slow down your speech, slow down your motions. Just be a constant, even force. It's kind of like animals stalk prey; make no sudden movements, but never stop moving closer. Men seem to do this naturally; if you pay attention to the next couple you see, you'll see it.

 

You're going to fail, and you're going to keep failing, believe me. Failure is not "something is wrong with you." It's one of two equally valuable outcomes; it's an arrow at a fork that pointed you in the wrong direction. Every time you fail you get closer to your goal. If you're not failing, you're not succeeding. Keep going.

 

You can love yourself blah blah blah but a women still has to be attracted to you to get your foot in the door

Edited October 4, 2010 by PJKino

[welikeincrowds]

You can love yourself blah blah blah but a women still has to be attracted to you to get your foot in the door

 

And a woman won't be attracted to you if you don't consider yourself attractive in some form. Loving yourself is your foot in the door.

[PJKino]

And a woman won't be attracted to you if you don't consider yourself attractive in some form. Loving yourself is your foot in the door.

 

Stop it with the fluff

 

Ive known some guys who were insecure deep down but great with women because they were extremely attratcive..

 

Looks play more a role in these things then some of us want to admit

 

You even posted thre article on how amazingly important height is to women

 

If something trivial is that important in the datign world you cant tell me looks arent a big factor

Edited October 4, 2010 by PJKino

[welikeincrowds]

Stop it with the fluff

 

Ive known some guys who were insecure deep down but great with women because they were extremely attratcive..

 

Looks play more a role in these things then some of us want to admit

 

Stop it with the excuses. No one said people don't look at you. Our eyes are pleased by symmetry. We live in a society and we have our standards. Looks matter.

 

You are trying to tell me that you will not succeed because you don't have something. You live in the western world, where you have everything. You have food and water and an internet connection. Don't you dare imply that I am being flippant. You have one life and it can end today. Stop pitying yourself and earn what you want.

[PJKino]

Stop it with the excuses. No one said people don't look at you. Our eyes are pleased by symmetry. We live in a society and we have our standards. Looks matter.

 

You are trying to tell me that you will not succeed because you don't have something. You live in the western world, where you have everything. You have food and water and an internet connection. Don't you dare imply that I am being flippant. You have one life and it can end today. Stop pitying yourself and earn what you want.

 

I never said its impossible and now that you admit looks are a huge part of it we agree

 

I was just disagreeing with your last pollyanna post that love yourself and women will flock to you ..

[welikeincrowds]

I never said its impossible and now that you admit looks are a huge part of it we agree

 

I was just disagreeing with your last pollyanna post that love yourself and women will flock to you ..

 

I never said either thing. Looks aren't a huge part, and women won't flock to you. I said you are entitled to nothing in this world. I said you have to work to achieve anything that matters. I said that worrying about your looks is indulging in a fear that will save you from stepping outside your rabbit hole and experiencing the possibility of rejection.

 

Your world-view is so heavily warped by your own ego that you think you can put words in my mouth where they don't belong. If you can't read what someone says on an internet forum, what makes you think you can make a woman feel like she's being listened to, or appreciated? What makes you think you deserve even the second's attention of any woman? These things are completely under your control, yet you'll blame anything else, like that even compares to the obvious problem of your blackened character, because you are bitter and naive.

 

Take my advice, or don't. I wish you the best.

[bayouboi]

Dude I would try to hook it up with the white girl in the 3rd pic. She seems to be looking in your direction longingly and she looks hot.

[PJKino]

I never said either thing. Looks aren't a huge part, and women won't flock to you. I said you are entitled to nothing in this world. I said you have to work to achieve anything that matters. I said that worrying about your looks is indulging in a fear that will save you from stepping outside your rabbit hole and experiencing the possibility of rejection.

 

Your world-view is so heavily warped by your own ego that you think you can put words in my mouth where they don't belong. If you can't read what someone says on an internet forum, what makes you think you can make a woman feel like she's being listened to, or appreciated? What makes you think you deserve even the second's attention of any woman? These things are completely under your control, yet you'll blame anything else, like that even compares to the obvious problem of your blackened character, because you are bitter and naive.

 

Take my advice, or don't. I wish you the best.

 

Whatever i realize women arent attracted to me and theres not much i can do..

 

I do love myself but that hasnt made women magically attracted to me..Some of us are just unattratcive to the opposite sex bottom line..

[ConflictedGuy27]

sup OP.

 

If you don't mind my sharing, let me say that 1. I remember your thread from a few months ago, and 2. a lot has happened to me, romantically speaking, in the interim which may be relevant to you.

 

first thing's first, I'm not a super hunk, okay... women

I've been with in the past have called me handsome, but that's simply because I was their "type". I can line up a few of my female friends who would likely rate my looks at a 6 out of 10 easily. as MadMax pointed out, it's all subjective.

 

with that out of the way, let me share some relevant stuff here...

 

1. drop your intent to meet women for the sake of dating. stamp out that whole mindset - it'll help you. what I suggest instead is meeting both men and women with the intent of being friends and getting to know EVERYONE better. I don't care if you're attracted to some girl or not, get to know her, invite her to join you to group stuff.

 

why? mostly to expand your social circle to a point where you're constantly meeting new people (for one) and increasing your perceived social worth (known as social capital).

 

don't think in terms of, "oh I like her, maybe I should try to date her"... instead, just focus on being that cool friend of hers that kinda rips on her and flirts a lot.

 

2. get their contact info. get good at this! guys, girls you're interested in, even girls you're not interested in -- get those f*cking digits man... add em on facebook (less formal, but still a great path to digits).

 

sit on those numbers for at least a week then send a random funny but kinda cocky text every now and then to solidify the idea that you two are friends and can possibly do stuff together.

 

I swear to you, attraction can be stirred up via texting. lolol. I know how that sounds... but it's damn true. if you're witty, funny and intelligent you can put together very short, concise messages designed to do nothing more than make her smile when she reads it.

 

get their numbers...

 

3. have parties (or something to that effect). you're in college man. girls want to party. so give them what they want. Ive since graduated college man but this advice is still way relevant. host a social gathering at least once a month - be "that guy" that throws cool parties and the women will come. not only will they come, they'll be damn impressed that you were responsible.

 

the ancillary effects are even better because guess what? girls talk to each other... if they had a good time at YOUR party, guess who's coming back to the next one with more girl friends... it's true.

 

this doesn't even have to go down at your house. do a bonfire or a beach BBQ dude. or rush a frat if you don't have a lot of friends - preferably one with a sister sorrity of girls you're really into.

 

4. repeat 1 - 3. again, between the time you stopped posting and today, I met quite a few new people, including 2 new girls that I ripped on initially, made them laugh, got their numbers, randomly texted them interesting, relevant stuff that aroused enough emotion in them to play along, eventually asked them out, KISSED them (which you must do by date 2), and continued to take them both out until they were ready for the bedroom. prove yourself inthe sack and guess what...?

 

you'll be at the point where theyre asking you "can we talk? I want to know what we are.." wah-la, an invite for a relationship.

 

you must appreciate that attraction is an art; and it's very much a game. you talk a whole lot about looks. meh... whatever, master #1 - #4 above and the whole looks bs WILL fly right out the effing window.

 

not down to try? then join a frat & you'll probably net more, with less effort.

Edited October 4, 2010 by ConflictedGuy27

[ConflictedGuy27]

and one other thing... perhaps the most important:

 

your thread title seeks responses (advise) from girls in college...

to be frank, you don't need their advice.

 

those you should be seeking advice from and befriending are guys that do well with women. MIMICK THEM.

 

want to be successful with women?? integrate yourself into those circles and do what the Romans do.

 

good luck.

[USMCHokie]

and one other thing... perhaps the most important:

 

your thread title seeks responses (advise) from girls in college...

to be frank, you don't need their advice.

 

I've noticed that guys (not just OP) will create threads asking only for female opinions because they want to get coddled by female opinions saying that they are wonderful people who should have no problem getting a date. It feeds the ego and makes one feel a bit more desirable to the opposite gender. Hell, I've been there, done that...

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

I've noticed that guys (not just OP) will create threads asking only for female opinions because they want to get coddled by female opinions saying that they are wonderful people who should have no problem getting a date. It feeds the ego and makes one feel a bit more desirable to the opposite gender. Hell, I've been there, done that...

 

I did not make this thread to get coddled in sugar. I just want criticism to take me into the right direction.

[RATED-RKOFRANKLIN]

I'm not a woman.

 

Your obvious biggest hurdle, as has been told you to many times, is your confidence. You have all your limbs and your face hasn't been burned off; someone out there is going to find you attractive. But that's not the point. You need to be happy with yourself. This is your body, yours. It's special and it's the only on you will ever have for the rest of your life. It's you.

 

I can understand the complexity of your emotions, stemming from long-term feelings of rejection -- but it seems ridiculous to dislike yourself for reasons outside of yourself.Imagine if you never saw a magazine or TV ad, or you lived (comfortably) in the wilderness. Do you think you would have the same opinion about your looks? Have you ever considered that your ears could be an endearing quality? Something people remember and think of you fondly by? We tell people how they should see us, in so many ways. If you are embarrassed by your ears, for example, others will be embarrassed by them too. If you don't think you're valuable, no one else will.

 

With that in mind: after looking at your pictures, I'm guessing your second biggest hurdle is body language.

 

You seem to have poor posture. You look like you're hunched or your neck is slouched in most of your pictures. If you improve this your "attractiveness" will skyrocket. It's amazing how much slouching communicates, and in most cases it's not a message you want to send. Did you see that study about women preferring height? Yes that's common knowledge, and no it's not 100% be-all end-all as some men focus on -- but who cares, you're tall! But it's not just the number, 6'0", 6'2". It's height as a symbol of power and confidence. You have to embrace your height: keep your shoulders straight, chest high, head up. Men tend to spread out and take up space, whereas women tend to contract. This is the biggest ingredient in presence. Paying attention to this will do wonders for you, for more reasons than one.

 

A quick way to solve this problem is to go to the gym. Working out and paying attention to your form seems to be a natural step toward better posture.

 

You seem to be a little "goofy" based on your photos having fun with your bros. This is absolutely fine -- but when you're flirting with a woman, be aware of your body. You want to slow down. Slow down your speech, slow down your motions. Just be a constant, even force. It's kind of like animals stalk prey; make no sudden movements, but never stop moving closer. Men seem to do this naturally; if you pay attention to the next couple you see, you'll see it.

 

You're going to fail, and you're going to keep failing, believe me. Failure is not "something is wrong with you." It's one of two equally valuable outcomes; it's an arrow at a fork that pointed you in the wrong direction. Every time you fail you get closer to your goal. If you're not failing, you're not succeeding. Keep going.

 

I don't see anything wrong with my posture. I am only slouching in one picture when I am behind two of my friends in a picture. I'm not sure what you are seeing in the other pictures.

 

I do agree my confidence with women needs a lot of work.

 

I've been working out since early this year. I've not seen much results, but people tell me that I am that as skinny as I was without asking people to tell me. I'm still working on this.

[USMCHokie]

I did not make this thread to get coddled in sugar. I just want criticism to take me into the right direction.

 

Well, the criticism in this new thread isn't going to be and hasn't been any different from that in your first thread of the same exact topic...what exactly are you looking for by recreating the thread?

 

Self-improvement isn't not an overnight process...for some it takes weeks, months, or even years...I can only assume that you're looking for a quick fix...unfortunately, there aren't any...you just have to keep working out, keep working on your self-image, and living your life...

[dreamingoftigers]

I don't know how many women this actually works for but I find that when men talk about sex as something they enjoy or would enjoy, that it triggers something for me. Like when they talk about what they enjoy or would enjoy, it really does something to me. But when it gets too sleazy it kind of disgusts me, it could be the ugliest dude ever, but it still works. It's kind of like "hey that sounds just it would be fun, and I could do it if I want to." Two weeks ago this 56 year old guy did it for me, crazy.

 

I don't even notice guy's looks to be honest.