PJKino Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 AS far as rejection i havent been rejected that many times im kinda shy and passive its just that the few i have tried women gave me dirty looks before i can say anyhting which kileld my confidence,plus ive heard some unflattering things people said about my looks behind my back So i put two and two together and realize the chances i can get a girl im attracted to is pretty slim
Author RATED-RKOFRANKLIN Posted October 2, 2010 Author Posted October 2, 2010 You do realize that people in your situation are an extremely minority? I'm not trying to put you down, just saying that most people(even if below average in looks) can find a partner at some point. Some people get rejected more than others. At some point, someone is going to say yes. Have you tried going for average looking girls? Overweight girls? May you show me a picture of an average young woman? I dont find overweight women attratcive..I dont mind a little extra weight in the right places but fat is not for me.. I dont try for models by any stretch or just really hot girls but the girl has to be somehwat attractive to me.. No amount of personality can make up for zero physical attraction for me As i said id rather be alone then be with soembody im not really into but its all i think i can get.. PJkino are you overweight? If you are then you should be more open to bigger women if you are overweight. In matter of fact just show us a picture of yourself.
PJKino Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 I still think your standards are way too high. You cant help what youre attracted to,i cant be with soembody i dont want to even picture naked Connection with no physical attraction is a friend
PJKino Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 May you show me a picture of an average young woman? PJkino are you overweight? If you are then you should be more open to bigger women if you are overweight. In matter of fact just show us a picture of yourself. Im not overweight at all if anything a little skinny I just dont find fat women attractive,doesnt mean a girl has to be anorexic either i dont mind a little meat but really overweight i cant get into
Mad Max Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 May you show me a picture of an average young woman? http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/v4/p5/average-rate-hair-growth_-200X200.jpg http://www.rileyerin.com/uploads/images/Riley%20portfolio%202.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_F28l_6FbyFY/S0dCg_ZajGI/AAAAAAAAAAg/RSEhIRfuUS0/S220/n62601292_30443135_757.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lnFSwrdw8KQ/SZRnXmTKupI/AAAAAAAAAAM/T_SQ_Z0QHX4/S220/avipic03.jpg Those would be examples of average looking young women, IMO.
PJKino Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/v4/p5/average-rate-hair-growth_-200X200.jpg http://www.rileyerin.com/uploads/images/Riley%20portfolio%202.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_F28l_6FbyFY/S0dCg_ZajGI/AAAAAAAAAAg/RSEhIRfuUS0/S220/n62601292_30443135_757.jpg http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_lnFSwrdw8KQ/SZRnXmTKupI/AAAAAAAAAAM/T_SQ_Z0QHX4/S220/avipic03.jpg Those would be examples of average looking young women, IMO. First and last ones arent bad the middle two not so much
Mad Max Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Im not overweight at all if anything a little skinny I just dont find fat women attractive,doesnt mean a girl has to be anorexic either i dont mind a little meat but really overweight i cant get into And with that attitude, fat women probably don't find you attractive. You can't help who you're attracted to, but you don't know who you're going to be attracted to until you meet the person. Going by pictures usually isn't a good idea because most people look better in person.
PJKino Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 And with that attitude, fat women probably don't find you attractive. You can't help who you're attracted to, but you don't know who you're going to be attracted to until you meet the person. Going by pictures usually isn't a good idea because most people look better in person. Dont paint me as having an attitude, i never said any women at all finds me attractive My point is im attracted to what im attracted to its not fair for me or her to be with someone im not attracted to becasue its all i can get Im content beign alone unless i can get a girl im attracted to physically on some level
Mad Max Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Dont paint me as having an attitude, i never said any women at all finds me attractive My point is im attracted to what im attracted to its not fair for me or her to be with someone im not attracted to becasue its all i can get Im content beign alone unless i can get a girl im attracted to physically on some level Dude, I'm trying to help you. My point is there are so many women in this country alone. Even if you connect with only a few percent, that's still a few million people. Logically, at least one person has to be attracted to you. AT LEAST. Doesn't mean they're going to show it outwardly. We're attracted to what we're attracted to. If you're content on being alone until you can find a girl you're most attracted to that feels the same, more power to you. My point is you're likely missing out on a lot of great women because you're not attracted to them initially. There was one girl I was into. She was over 200 pounds. I wasn't attracted to her initially, but once I got to know her, that changed. Get out of that attractiveness zone you seem to be into and expand it. Go after girls you normally wouldn't. You might be surprised.
Author RATED-RKOFRANKLIN Posted October 2, 2010 Author Posted October 2, 2010 Mad Max, I understand PJkino not being open to bigger women. I'm the same as well. I take care of myself and demand for the same in return. I could go on the Micheal Phillps diet(He has a high metabolism) and eat 12,000 calories a day but without the excise in Phillps's diet then I would be overweight. I do agree with Mad Max that an unexpected attraction can happen. I actually found a slightly bigger girl attractive in a class last semester. She had a pretty face, confidence, and a good personality. Too bad she had a BF. First and last ones arent bad the middle two not so much I disagree about the first picture. To me the first and third pictures are below average. The fourth looks average. I cannot judge the second picture because I am unable to see her entire face.
Mad Max Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 I disagree about the first picture. To me the first and third pictures are below average. The fourth looks average. I cannot judge the second picture because I am unable to see her entire face. And you 2 gentlemen just proved my point. Attractiveness is subjective. Attractiveness is not that simple. You can meet someone, think they're average, and develop attractiveness for them over time.
PJKino Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Dude, I'm trying to help you. My point is there are so many women in this country alone. Even if you connect with only a few percent, that's still a few million people. Logically, at least one person has to be attracted to you. AT LEAST. Doesn't mean they're going to show it outwardly. We're attracted to what we're attracted to. If you're content on being alone until you can find a girl you're most attracted to that feels the same, more power to you. My point is you're likely missing out on a lot of great women because you're not attracted to them initially. There was one girl I was into. She was over 200 pounds. I wasn't attracted to her initially, but once I got to know her, that changed. Get out of that attractiveness zone you seem to be into and expand it. Go after girls you normally wouldn't. You might be surprised. As i said to me a connection with no physical attraction is a friend.. If im gonna put myself out there and get rejected i might as well do it for a girl im interested in.. Hitting on girls you dont have attraction to guarantees nothing either you make it seem like it does.. Average women actually have standards and can be picky too..Sometimes even more then average guys because they get more attention then the average guy..
Mad Max Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 As i said to me a connection with no physical attraction is a friend.. Physical attraction can develop and grow. If im gonna put myself out there and get rejected i might as well do it for a girl im interested in.. And I'm sure a woman that's interested in you(and there are, you just don't know it or want to know it) is saying the same thing. Hitting on girls you dont have attraction to guarantees nothing either you make it seem like it does.. There's never a guarantee. There's no guarantee you're going to wake up tomorrow morning. Average women actually have standards and can be picky too..Sometimes even more then average guys because they get more attention then the average guy.. EVERYONE should have standards. You should never have to compromise them, but at the same time, you shouldn't rule someone because they're overweight or whatever. You complain that women turn you down because you're not attractive. You're doing the exact same thing. Why is it okay for you to turn down an overweight girl, but not if a girl turns you down?
PJKino Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 EVERYONE should have standards. You should never have to compromise them, but at the same time, you shouldn't rule someone because they're overweight or whatever. You complain that women turn you down because you're not attractive. You're doing the exact same thing. Why is it okay for you to turn down an overweight girl, but not if a girl turns you down? When did i ever blame women for not being attracted to me and say they must like me? I blame my genetics not women..If a fat women isnt attracted to me thats her right..Im sure theres more then a few fat women who wouldnt give me the time of day..
Mad Max Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 When did i ever blame women for not being attracted to me and say they must like me? I blame my genetics not women..If a fat women isnt attracted to me thats her right..Im sure theres more then a few fat women who wouldnt give me the time of day.. You still don't get it. You've complained that women won't give you the time of day, but you're doing the same thing to a certain group of girls, quite a few of which would probably be interested in you. Do you not see the correlation? You're being very hypocritical.
PJKino Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 You still don't get it. You've complained that women won't give you the time of day, but you're doing the same thing to a certain group of girls, quite a few of which would probably be interested in you. Do you not see the correlation? You're being very hypocritical. Ive lamented that i cant get women but ive never blamed them for not liking me just like i dont blame anyone whos not attracted to me nor should i apologize for not being attracted to certain people
PJKino Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 As far as "letting attraction grow" im not around single women at all,all my friends are married and there are no single women in my circle of friends
Cracker Jack Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Good stuff, Mad Max. Good advice all throughout. I feel hopeful a bit. Btw, I often feel the same as PJ; being 22 and never having a "real" relationship while many of my other friends have had tons, well, sucks. However, I know it's not because my standards are high; I just don't know how to, um, read signals or express interest. I'm more of a social moron than many, which sucks. But yeah, I know plenty of guys who weren't the best looking (Nor rich) who've always had a tendency to get a woman, whether it's through game, or accepting rejection and continuing to pursue. Not that I would offer that as advice, but because a few women considered you unattractive in no way means it's universal for women. I don't think any man has never not been called ugly before.
Author RATED-RKOFRANKLIN Posted October 2, 2010 Author Posted October 2, 2010 Not that I would offer that as advice, but because a few women considered you unattractive in no way means it's universal for women. I do feel my looks are universal for women. I've been going to school for 16 years. Since around middle school thousands of women have said that I am very unattractive, nasty, and disgusting. Some of these comments I heard to my face, by body language, or heard people near by mentioning me either by name or description(ears).
Cracker Jack Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 It's always possible those girls were just b*****s, tho. I remember trying to start up small convo with a few girls, which were met with pissy posture from them. I know how annoying that feels, but that was a good while ago. I suck at talking to women in general. Anyway, I don't think you should use those experiences to outline your entire worth, man. Throughout my experiences in school, I could never grasp the consensus on my looks. Most girls were incredibly nice and flirty with me, while others mocked me (My height, really) and were just mean overall. The negative experiences stood out more than the good ones, no doubt--but that's because I excluded the good experiences because the negative ones outweighed them, in my mind. Has there never, ever, ever been a time in your life where you've been received nicely by a woman? I just...I dunno, find it hard to believe that no girl has ever given you some sort of...good feedback.
Mad Max Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 Anyway, I don't think you should use those experiences to outline your entire worth, man. Throughout my experiences in school, I could never grasp the consensus on my looks. Most girls were incredibly nice and flirty with me, while others mocked me (My height, really) and were just mean overall. The negative experiences stood out more than the good ones, no doubt--but that's because I excluded the good experiences because the negative ones outweighed them, in my mind. Reminds me of my high school days. I wasn't treated poorly, but I wasn't treated all that well either. Things changed once I hit 20 or so. But I always vowed that I would never treat an average looking or below average looking person worse than an attractive one. No one deserves to be treated that way.
Author RATED-RKOFRANKLIN Posted October 2, 2010 Author Posted October 2, 2010 It's always possible those girls were just b*****s, tho. I remember trying to start up small convo with a few girls, which were met with pissy posture from them. I know how annoying that feels, but that was a good while ago. I suck at talking to women in general. Anyway, I don't think you should use those experiences to outline your entire worth, man. Throughout my experiences in school, I could never grasp the consensus on my looks. Most girls were incredibly nice and flirty with me, while others mocked me (My height, really) and were just mean overall. The negative experiences stood out more than the good ones, no doubt--but that's because I excluded the good experiences because the negative ones outweighed them, in my mind. Has there never, ever, ever been a time in your life where you've been received nicely by a woman? I just...I dunno, find it hard to believe that no girl has ever given you some sort of...good feedback. I never had any good experiences with women. This is excluding female friends because they always say something nice, and won't be rude. I've only gotten complaints from a lot of women about my looks. People including women nicely say I dress nice, but I don't count that because people can say that to anyone. Hell, I say that to my friends when I actually like what they are wearing. A woman has never flirted with me before. Why is it hard to believe? Do I have any good qualities? Honestly I think my ears are my only bad feature.
Cracker Jack Posted October 2, 2010 Posted October 2, 2010 I never had any good experiences with women. This is excluding female friends because they always say something nice, and won't be rude. I've only gotten complaints from a lot of women about my looks. People including women nicely say I dress nice, but I don't count that because people can say that to anyone. Hell, I say that to my friends when I actually like what they are wearing. A woman has never flirted with me before. Well, were their complaints solely based around your ears? Or did their criticism stretch to other things? And what type of women did you usually pursue? There are lots of shallow women out here, so it's a problem we all have to deal with. I've been solely rejected based on my height alone. Why is it hard to believe? Do I have any good qualities? Honestly I think my ears are my only bad feature. You appear to be a normal, intelligent looking guy to me. Not nearly as bad as you make yourself out to be, in my honest opinion. And your ears are fine. I honestly think getting over this will continue to be your biggest hurdle.
Author RATED-RKOFRANKLIN Posted October 2, 2010 Author Posted October 2, 2010 Well, were their complaints solely based around your ears? Or did their criticism stretch to other things? And what type of women did you usually pursue? There are lots of shallow women out here, so it's a problem we all have to deal with. I've been solely rejected based on my height alone. You appear to be a normal, intelligent looking guy to me. Not nearly as bad as you make yourself out to be, in my honest opinion. And your ears are fine. I honestly think getting over this will continue to be your biggest hurdle. Some complaints were solely based on my ears. Other complaints I do not know because of body language and just saying that I am ugly. I pursue this type of woman. Theses are my standards. I only pursue white women. In the past I have pursued other races of women, but I am mostly attracted to white women. 1. She must be a christian. I want someone who has the same religious beliefs as I do. The type of christianity does not matter. 2. She must be slender. I am not attracted to women who are fat. I take care of myself so I would want someone who would do the same for themselves when it comes to weight. 3. She must have class and respect for herself. 4. She must be clean. All I am asking is for a woman to take care of herself. Be nicely groomed. 5. She must dress nice. I'm not attracted to the "dress down don't comb my hair style". 6. We must have good commutation. I believe a good relationship needs good communication. Do you mean bad as below average or bad as in average?
Cracker Jack Posted October 3, 2010 Posted October 3, 2010 Hmmm. Your standards don't seem bad to me. However, there you may come into contact with a woman who might only fit your criteria 70-80%, if not less or slightly more. If that were to happen, would you still be open to building on something with her? What I meant was that in comparison to how you portray yourself, you look like a fairly normal guy at the end of the day. And by that, I mean average; fairly normal in the looks department, which isn't a bad thing. Sorry if it sounded like I was calling you "bad" or something like that. Wasn't trying to.
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