Eggs and Proteins.

[Rashad]

hey...

I'm not really into protein powders, pills and stuff, I've been working out for three months now and ever since I was young I have been pretty active alhamduli'Allah... I wanna take to it the next level, I've started eating 6 boiled eggs a day (the white part only) and I want to know if there is anyway for me to increase the protein absorption, should I eat something else with/before/after it, should I eat the eggs before or after working out and by how many hours? Any advices or suggestions are welcome!

 

I'm a basketball player, so I'm not looking for that bouncer body, mobility is very important to me, I wouldn't wanna be too huge, or huge at all for that matter. 5 more kg of muscle is all I want.

[USMCHokie]

hey...

I'm not really into protein powders...

 

Start becoming of fan...nothing is as cheap, convenient, and effective at getting quality protein into your system...

 

 

I wanna take to it the next level, I've started eating 6 boiled eggs a day (the white part only) and I want to know if there is anyway for me to increase the protein absorption, should I eat something else with/before/after it, should I eat the eggs before or after working out and by how many hours? Any advices or suggestions are welcome!

 

Egg protein is primarily casein protein, which is very slow to process...that's something you'd just eat in the morning to have a steady fuel for the day...not very useful for before or after workouts...

 

Whey protein is the fastest digesting and processing protein you can readily find...and it is most conveniently consumed in protein powders...again, become a fan of them...I consume my protein post-workout along with fats from nuts and carbs from fruit and dinner...

 

 

I'm a basketball player, so I'm not looking for that bouncer body, mobility is very important to me, I wouldn't wanna be too huge, or huge at all for that matter. 5 more kg of muscle is all I want.

 

It's going to take you a looong time to get "huge." In order to gain 5 kg of lean muscle mass, it will probably take you 1-2 years, depending on your genetics, of eating and training like you want to get HUGE...

 

I get bothered by this misconception that people have that you will get "huge" from weight training...and so they half ass their way around the gym and then complain that they're not seeing results...

 

If you want results, you have to train for it, and that means training like you want to get HUUUUGE...and when you've reached the desired size and strength, tone down your workouts...

[tman666]

I second everything Hokie said, and add this: eat your damn yolks.

[USMCHokie]

I second everything Hokie said, and add this: eat your damn yolks.

 

Damn skippy! But one day I ate an entire dozen eggs, yolks and all...I had some pretty funky smellin' farts the next day...

[wuggle]

I second everything Hokie said, and add this: eat your damn yolks.

 

Are you serious ? (Think about it )

[Rashad]

Start becoming of fan...nothing is as cheap, convenient, and effective at getting quality protein into your system...

You're probably right, but I'm not really in a hurry... also I'm not ruling it out, I kinda did some research and found that Myotein is good, what protein powder are you using?

 

Egg protein is primarily casein protein, which is very slow to process...that's something you'd just eat in the morning to have a steady fuel for the day...not very useful for before or after workouts...

thaks you for that.

Whey protein is the fastest digesting and processing protein you can readily find...and it is most conveniently consumed in protein powders...again, become a fan of them...I consume my protein post-workout along with fats from nuts and carbs from fruit and dinner...

I'll take that into consideration.

 

 

I get bothered by this misconception that people have that you will get "huge" from weight training...and so they half ass their way around the gym and then complain that they're not seeing results...

haha, don't worry, I'm good!

If you want results, you have to train for it, and that means training like you want to get HUUUUGE...and when you've reached the desired size and strength, tone down your workouts...

I workout 5 days a week, I read that resting is very important too. But yeah I'm still on the "research" phase, I'm trying to find out what's best fitness and health wise as well. Thank you so much!

[USMCHokie]

...what protein powder are you using?

 

Optimum Nutrition 100% Whey...decent price, decent taste, can be purchased anywhere...quality protein without too much extra crap...

 

I used to use Cytosport Muscle Milk but found that it too many calories and too much fat...but I'd highly recommend it for those looking to put on some weight...and nothing I've ever had tasted better...and prices have gone down on it in recent months...

[Rashad]

I second everything Hokie said, and add this: eat your damn yolks.

I read that yolks are too much for the liver, so I eat maximum two yolks...

[USMCHokie]

I read that yolks are too much for the liver, so I eat maximum two yolks...

 

Most of the myths regarding egg yolks from the 90's have more or less been debunked...yolks FTW...

[tman666]

Are you serious ? (Think about it )

 

Very serious. What exactly am I supposed to be thinking about?

[wuggle]

Very serious. What exactly am I supposed to be thinking about?

 

It was just a play on words...I thought you were just yoking !

[tman666]

It was just a play on words...I thought you were just yoking !

 

ahhhh gotcha haha

[TaraMaiden]

If you eat sun-dried tomatoes, or some ketchup with your egg yolks, this can countermand the detrimental effect of the cholesterol....

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1571694/Tomato-ketchup-can-cut-cholesterol.html

 

 

http://www.articlesbase.com/nutrition-articles/calculating-cholesterol-eating-tomato-ketchup-can-reduce-your-cholesterol-1604684.html

 

 

But it's true.

Eggy-wind is really obnoxious....!

[wuggle]

ahhhh gotcha haha

 

Sorry about that, childish sense of humour (wife calls it obtuse !)

 

To the OP, agree with Hokie, whey protien generally absorbs better and a hell of a lot cheaper, but if you are going to eat eggs, when I was training hard (for speed rather than bulk) used to train in evening, then eat a normal meal. Then before bed would take 6 raw eggs mixed with milk (to pint level). The milk makes it go down a lot easier and stops a lot of the crappy texture going down, also the milk seemed to stop acid problems with just taking eggs.

[tman666]

http://stronglifts.com/stronglifts-5x5-beginner-strength-training-program/

 

All you need to become strong and lean (or strong and buff depending on how much you wanna eat). Read the program and the diet and you will gain 5kgs in under a month easily, as long as you stick with it properly.

 

Stronglifts 5x5 is very basic and great for establishing the fundamentals of lifting properly. I second that he needs to eat waaaayyyy more if he wants to gain 5 kg.

[Leigh 87]

I understand that some protein powders make it easy to absorb protein, in a convenient manner ( taste/cost/timeit takes to preppare).

 

However, I find it hard to believe that eating enough protein in your day is not good enough to deliver optimal results.

 

If you eat steak for dinner, and fish or chicken OR eggs at lunch, ISN'T that all the protein you need in a day, in addition to doing an optimal work out, to reach your goal?

 

I do not see why you need protein powdes, in the place of normal animal derived protein, to attain your desired results.

 

Competitive body builders may need to use powder to really fine tune things and eat exact amounts of a specific type of protein or WHATEVER. But I do not think the majority of people should need POWDERS to attain their desired goal.

[Rorschach]

I understand that some protein powders make it easy to absorb protein, in a convenient manner ( taste/cost/timeit takes to preppare).

 

However, I find it hard to believe that eating enough protein in your day is not good enough to deliver optimal results.

 

If you eat steak for dinner, and fish or chicken OR eggs at lunch, ISN'T that all the protein you need in a day, in addition to doing an optimal work out, to reach your goal?

 

I do not see why you need protein powdes, in the place of normal animal derived protein, to attain your desired results.

 

Competitive body builders may need to use powder to really fine tune things and eat exact amounts of a specific type of protein or WHATEVER. But I do not think the majority of people should need POWDERS to attain their desired goal.

 

Depends on what your goals are, if you just want to live a healthy life no you don't need protein powders.

 

If you want to look like hokie you're going to need protein powder.

[tman666]

I understand that some protein powders make it easy to absorb protein, in a convenient manner ( taste/cost/timeit takes to preppare).

 

However, I find it hard to believe that eating enough protein in your day is not good enough to deliver optimal results.

 

If you eat steak for dinner, and fish or chicken OR eggs at lunch, ISN'T that all the protein you need in a day, in addition to doing an optimal work out, to reach your goal?

 

I do not see why you need protein powdes, in the place of normal animal derived protein, to attain your desired results.

 

Competitive body builders may need to use powder to really fine tune things and eat exact amounts of a specific type of protein or WHATEVER. But I do not think the majority of people should need POWDERS to attain their desired goal.

 

You're correct in saying that you do not need protein supplements (powders and what not) to meet even drastic goals. However, the downside of getting all of your protein from meat sources (such as chicken breasts or steaks) is that they are often accompanied by extra calories, and it's more difficult to get the same amount of protein delivered in a protein shake without feeling full. That's the primary reason why many bodybuilders and other athletes use whey protein. It's an easy way to add 40 to 100 grams of protein to your daily intake without having to down an extra couple chicken breasts or a steak.

 

The other added benefit of whey protein supplements (such as Opt. Nutrition, Dymatize, BNS, and a lot of others) is that they add branch chain amino acids (BCAAs) which essentially ensure that the supplement is a complete protein and maximizes its utilization in the body.

 

I believe practically everyone could benefit from whey protein supplementation, barring food allergies of course.

[Green]

You're correct in saying that you do not need protein supplements (powders and what not) to meet even drastic goals. However, the downside of getting all of your protein from meat sources (such as chicken breasts or steaks) is that they are often accompanied by extra calories, and it's more difficult to get the same amount of protein delivered in a protein shake without feeling full. That's the primary reason why many bodybuilders and other athletes use whey protein. It's an easy way to add 40 to 100 grams of protein to your daily intake without having to down an extra couple chicken breasts or a steak.

 

The other added benefit of whey protein supplements (such as Opt. Nutrition, Dymatize, BNS, and a lot of others) is that they add branch chain amino acids (BCAAs) which essentially ensure that the supplement is a complete protein and maximizes its utilization in the body.

 

I believe practically everyone could benefit from whey protein supplementation, barring food allergies of course.

 

Personaly I find powders messy and pointless (if you are going for a natural look).

 

I say eat what taste good. Avoid bread, candy, and processed foods. basicly stick to fruits, vegatables, nuts, and meats/poultry/fish milk/eggs.

Eat through out the day like at least 4 times preferably 5 or 6. I also try to avoid butter and cheese (although I have it some times) Use Olive oil as better alternative.

 

Powders are a pain in the ass and in my opinion bring on a bulky unatural look. They work but are not worth it and require you to keep taking the protien to maintain it. You'll loose the extra muscle in as little as 5 months if you stop taking the protien... so do u realy want a life of protien powder?

[tman666]

Personaly I find powders messy and pointless (if you are going for a natural look).

 

I say eat what taste good. Avoid bread, candy, and processed foods. basicly stick to fruits, vegatables, nuts, and meats/poultry/fish milk/eggs.

Eat through out the day like at least 4 times preferably 5 or 6. I also try to avoid butter and cheese (although I have it some times) Use Olive oil as better alternative.

 

Powders are a pain in the ass and in my opinion bring on a bulky unatural look. They work but are not worth it and require you to keep taking the protien to maintain it. You'll loose the extra muscle in as little as 5 months if you stop taking the protien... so do u realy want a life of protien powder?

 

I weigh about 235 lbs... I usually consume anywhere between 215 and 240 grams of protein a day to maintain this. I'd have to get in even more if I wanted to get bigger. I use whey protein to help supplement my protein intake, and like Hokie mentioned, the only time I use it is after a training session due to its high absorption rate.

 

I have gone without the whey protein before, while keeping my protein intake constant. The result was that I kept my strength and muscle mass, but I got a little fatter due to the higher amount of calories ingested. Like I said, protein supplements are by no means necessary, but they can add an edge if you're looking to keep your bodyfat percentage lower while maintaining muscle mass.

 

Of course, I personally do espouse the "bulky unnatural" look. Hahaha. That doesn't come from increased protein intake alone though...

 

 

GTL

Edited September 30, 2010 by tman666

[Green]

I weigh about 235 lbs... I usually consume anywhere between 215 and 240 grams of protein a day to maintain this. I'd have to get in even more if I wanted to get bigger. I use whey protein to help supplement my protein intake, and like Hokie mentioned, the only time I use it is after a training session due to its high absorption rate.

 

I have gone without the whey protein before, while keeping my protein intake constant. The result was that I kept my strength and muscle mass, but I got a little fatter due to the higher amount of calories ingested. Like I said, protein supplements are by no means necessary, but they can add an edge if you're looking to keep your bodyfat percentage lower while maintaining muscle mass.

 

Of course, I personally do espouse the "bulky unnatural" look. Hahaha. That doesn't come from increased protein intake alone though...

 

 

GTL

 

I'm 210 lbs and as long as I have no gut or love handles I'm happy.

[tman666]

I'm 210 lbs and as long as I have no gut or love handles I'm happy.

 

Do you lift weights?

[Green]

Do you lift weights?

 

On and off. I'd like to start lifting more again.

[tman666]

If you ever decide to start hitting it hard again, you should try supplementing with whey protein post workout and casein protein right before going to sleep. I think you'll find that your results will be better than if you rely on food alone. "Real" food is great and should (obviously) make up the majority of your diet, but it's easy to get overly full (and consume too many calories) trying to meet a high protein requirement with regular foods alone. The protein supplementation really helps recovery, which means you can train more often.

 

1) Lift weights like a demon. Sprint like you're being chased by wolves.

 

2) Eat lots of food, drink a high quality PWO protein shake

 

3) Profit

 

[USMCHokie]

GTL

 

GTL, bro...GTL...