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Does anybody else (on this forum) see themselves as worthless, awkward, like they are completely irrelevant in today's society? I do.

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i think more people in the World think this than you would even realize.

 

many people "fake it till they make it".... aka- if you tell others and yourself that you are awesome, and 'fake' like you are awesome- pretty soon you may really believe that you are awesome.

 

the same goes with thinking you are worthless, awkward and irrelevant.

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went through that stage as a teen, but gradually shook that feeling when I went off to college at 21 – change of environment, strong support of new friends, doing stuff I was interested in made a huge difference.

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went through that stage as a teen, but gradually shook that feeling when I went off to college at 21 – change of environment, strong support of new friends, doing stuff I was interested in made a huge difference.

 

Glad to see there are some good outcomes with situations like that.

 

 

the same goes with thinking you are worthless, awkward and irrelevant.

 

I see what you're saying...but I don't want to be delusional and think I'm "great" when I'm not.

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More than half the worlds population feels that way

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I see what you're saying...but I don't want to be delusional and think I'm "great" when I'm not.

 

says who? if it's just your opinion of you- then i do not want hear it- hell even if someone else said it do not want to hear it.

 

start by being glass half full at least...

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says who? if it's just your opinion of you- then i do not want hear it- hell even if someone else said it do not want to hear it.

 

start by being glass half full at least...

 

My opinion of my self goes from neutral, then dips to disapproving. For instance, there are times when I literally think I am mentally retarded.

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nothing wrong with recognizing your strengths the same way you recognize faults. What keeps you humble is that you learn to view those strengths for what they are and not brag about them. Or bash people over the head with them. Because those strengths will make themselves evident to others through your behavior.

 

I think the meaning of delusional is that someone buys into a reality that no one else sees!

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nothing wrong with recognizing your strengths the same way you recognize faults. What keeps you humble is that you learn to view those strengths for what they are and not brag about them. Or bash people over the head with them. Because those strengths will make themselves evident to others through your behavior.

 

I think the meaning of delusional is that someone buys into a reality that no one else sees!

 

I agree with the first paragraph totally. The last sentence though, I disagree with simply b/c there are examples of that not being true. For instance, there are many geniuses currently--and in the past--with different ideologies than most of the population. Now, some of those ideologies are correct, some aren't (not to be determined by me).

 

I just don't want to be some average to below average bloke that is always extolling himself at the dismay of others.

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I just don't want to be some average to below average bloke that is always extolling himself at the dismay of others.

 

which defaults back to the "don't brag on yourself" idea ;)

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Does anybody else (on this forum) see themselves as worthless, awkward, like they are completely irrelevant in today's society

 

 

I do.................

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That's true; The main point of this thread was to see if others felt the same way as I do about myself, I do.

 

@Timothy, sorry to hear that buddy.

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That's true; The main point of this thread was to see if others felt the same way as I do about myself, I do.

 

@Timothy, sorry to hear that buddy.

 

well i Could very well think that about myself- i used to nonstop and it almost killed me (literally).... so i try not to go back to that place. for to me to not go back there i think of the positive things i am.... even if it the only good thing that particular day is to be kind to someone and make their day a little brighter.

 

it sucks you think you suck and that you are worthless- i hope you can get over yourself.

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"Get over yourself" you make it sound like I'm being arrogant, well I suppose I'm a bit self-centered but not in a positive light. And, I'm definitely not arrogant.

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"Get over yourself" you make it sound like I'm being arrogant, well I suppose I'm a bit self-centered but not in a positive light. And, I'm definitely not arrogant.

 

what i meant was if you are wallowing around in self pity or loathing then you are thinking too much about yourself- soooooo you MUST think you are Something if you spend time thinking about yourself and that you are nothing.

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Life has it's ups and downs. Your current state of mind will pass, it will return someday, then it will pass again. Enjoy the good times, endure the bad.

Try and make sure YOU are always on your side.

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what i meant was if you are wallowing around in self pity or loathing then you are thinking too much about yourself- soooooo you MUST think you are Something if you spend time thinking about yourself and that you are nothing.

 

 

Well, I'd say it boils down to envy. I'm so envious of all these accomplished, attractive, intelligent people. I know I'll never be like them. That might sound juvenile and petty, and I'm not saying I deserve any of those traits, though.

 

I agree that I am self-centered, and I actually think it would have been better for everyone I know, if I didn't exist. I contribute nothing worthwhile to the world, pretty much anyone could fill my shoes (not that they'd want to).

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That might sound juvenile and petty that may be true, but you're also honest about it, so you're ahead of the game there, just in recognizing those feelings.

 

as for not being a valuable part of society because you think you're not important ... that's utter bullcrap. You are incredibly special, and in your uniqueness, you offer something to the people around you that no one else quite can. So what if you're not incredibly smart, good-looking, rich, funny, etc? There's something about you that no one, but NO ONE else has or does or is. The key is to recognize that "super-power" and to build on/focus on that. It's not a measure of vanity, but honestly looking at your gifts and being able to share them with others.

 

it's normal to bring yourself down over what you aren't ... why not invest that energy and focus on what you are, and how you're able to share it?

 

every once in awhile there's an email that circulates, talking about while you don't realize it, there are a huge number of people who are impacted positively by your very presence. As in, "to the world, you're just one person, but to one person, you are the world." There is at least one person out there who thinks you hung the moon, and many more who admire you for who you are; those who love you because you bring out the best in them; and those who love you simply because you exist.

 

it's a point of obnoxiousness to disregard those points of reality simply because you want to wallow in self-pity.

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That might sound juvenile and petty that may be true, but you're also honest about it, so you're ahead of the game there, just in recognizing those feelings.

 

as for not being a valuable part of society because you think you're not important ... that's utter bullcrap. You are incredibly special, and in your uniqueness, you offer something to the people around you that no one else quite can. So what if you're not incredibly smart, good-looking, rich, funny, etc? There's something about you that no one, but NO ONE else has or does or is. The key is to recognize that "super-power" and to build on/focus on that. It's not a measure of vanity, but honestly looking at your gifts and being able to share them with others.

 

it's normal to bring yourself down over what you aren't ... why not invest that energy and focus on what you are, and how you're able to share it?

 

every once in awhile there's an email that circulates, talking about while you don't realize it, there are a huge number of people who are impacted positively by your very presence. As in, "to the world, you're just one person, but to one person, you are the world." There is at least one person out there who thinks you hung the moon, and many more who admire you for who you are; those who love you because you bring out the best in them; and those who love you simply because you exist.

 

it's a point of obnoxiousness to disregard those points of reality simply because you want to wallow in self-pity.

 

At random points in my life, I have been called very intelligent, good looking etc. However, they say when you are depressed you view yourself more accurately. I'm no stranger to deceit. I used to think I was paranoid, but now I've realized I can't trust anyone. That's besides the point, though.

 

But, I think we can both agree that it doesn't matter what people think, but only what reality is. Yes, our abstractions of the world can help or hinder us, but that doesn't mean at either end our perceptions are objective. I know mine definitely isn't.

 

I've felt many times in my life that I am some sort of evolutionary mistake. That seems more and more like reality everyday, even if it is only a self-fulfilling prophecy. I do know, without a shadow of a doubt, that up to this point in my life I have been a complete loser. A quarter of a century gone,...so I guess you could say the point of this thread is "misery loves company."

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I do know, without a shadow of a doubt, that up to this point in my life I have been a complete loser. A quarter of a century gone,...so I guess you could say the point of this thread is "misery loves company."

 

ok... i get it..... you just want to.

 

it's cool; but we LSers at the least would like to give you different, yet the similar, perspectives.

 

everyone is different... grew up different and have gone through different life experiences- which is one of the neatest things i have learned on LS...... it's very eye opening when strangers, from all over the world and all walks, phases, and points of life, share their own perspectives of life- of their own story as they perceive it.

 

i am not trying to be mean or anything- but rather to acknowledge you- TS- as a unique individual. and to hopefully let you see my veiw of what you have let us know.

 

25 is a great year- with lots of ups and downs- which helps (i think) give you a perspective as what is really important to you.... and part of that is to realize that what you may have thought or even heard was supposedly important- and then you realize that some of the stuff that you really thought was- or maybe even at point you felt defined you- IS not there any more.

 

i am just spouting, so it may not be applicable to you- just saying. :bunny:

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I've felt many times in my life that I am some sort of evolutionary mistake. That seems more and more like reality everyday, even if it is only a self-fulfilling prophecy. I do know, without a shadow of a doubt, that up to this point in my life I have been a complete loser.

Why don't you own your choices instead of rejecting who you are? If you wanted to be like the rest of society, you'd have chosen to do so. You're not a mistake, you're a work of art. Someone out there is looking for a person just like you, or for the person you will eventually become.
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Why don't you own your choices instead of rejecting who you are? If you wanted to be like the rest of society, you'd have chosen to do so. You're not a mistake, you're a work of art. Someone out there is looking for a person just like you, or for the person you will eventually become.

 

I appreciate the attempt to boost my self-esteem, but, I know I am not a "work of art" physically or mentally.

 

And what's keeping me from being like the rest of society is, partially, my extreme anxiety. Also, I'm rejecting who I am because I don't like my identity. It's similiar to someone having a talent for singing, but having no desire to sing. Just because it's there, doesn't mean it should be lauded. That might seem like a general statement, but that was about me more than anything.

 

You can eventually fix mistakes in machines with enough effort, organic beings aren't so easily healed.

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Does anybody else (on this forum) see themselves as worthless, awkward, like they are completely irrelevant in today's society? I do.

 

 

Yes I do also, well perhaps not awkward, but the rest rings true

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Yes I do also, well perhaps not awkward, but the rest rings true

 

Have you always felt this way?

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No, just since I got back home

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