Gallaxia Posted September 18, 2010 Posted September 18, 2010 Vegetarian? I'm cool with. Vegan? Definite deal breaker.
Author loverofloveandstuff Posted September 18, 2010 Author Posted September 18, 2010 I never said that all vegans are unhealthy!!! I said that I'm happy to argue with moralistic vegans who feel obligated to lecture the rest of us about how only vegan diets are healthy. Vegans can certainly be healthy, but they have to work at it because that type of diet is contrary to the diet that humans evolved with. That's all I said. Sorry EasyHeart. I didn't read your post properly. All I saw was 'vegan' and 'unhealthy' in the same sentence and I jumped on you. I need to work on my comprehending skills. That and, stop being so defensive.
Author loverofloveandstuff Posted September 18, 2010 Author Posted September 18, 2010 dealbreaker for me too. I used to (keyword is used to) have a vegan friend who would criticize what I eat whenever we go out. If i order fish n chips etc., she would go on and on about how a salad is better. Or she would say "you're eating that?! really? You can finish that much?" Ugh! I don't know why people have to be like that. My mother's side of the family is Korean and whenever I go over there to see the relatives they always make comments like 'wow, you eat a lot.' 'Don't eat bread, bread is unhealthy. Have some rice.'
Rorschach Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Deal breaker for me, in the dating stage assuming it wasn't one of those 'crazy enforcing my ideas on you' vegans it wouldn't be a problem, but in a long term relationship leading into marriage what would we do when we prepared food together? I'm not about to eat a vegan diet, and it's not like we can make 2 seperate meals every day. I don't see it working.
USMCHokie Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 ...it's not like we can make 2 seperate meals every day. I don't see it working. And this is the primary reason...it'd just be a huge pain in the ass...
Lakeside_runner Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Dealbreaker for me as well. I like my steaks, I like my beef and I just would not be compatible with someone who has a totally different eating habits. I like to cook for special girls and... I don't do well with vegan recipes
Crazy Magnet Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Thanks to all the nice visuals about meet I'm all queasy. lol Guess it's vegetables for me for dinner tonight. It was the mucous in milk comment that really did me in.
bobo113 Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 I know some people who claim to be vegans but may actually have an eating disorder. That, in itself, is not a reason not to date someone, but I know some guys who are a bit wary of women with highly regulated eating habits on the first date. Having said that, you should do what you want with your life. If they don't like it, they're probably not the right one anyway.
alphamale Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 you can still eat cheeseburgers, and not have it be from an animal. tastes just as good, if not better, and better for you. hahaha
leftfordead2 Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 No, I didn't say that. YOU did. I was asking a question, in case you missed the question mark at the end of it. You said intelligence is one of the top qualities of a vegan. If you're bringing that up, it must be an attribute that is special to that group of people (vegans) right? If not, why bring that quality up since, in my opinion, intelligence can be attributed to anyone, not just vegans alone?
USMCHokie Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Sensitivity and intelligence. Those are the top 2 qualities of a vegetarian/vegan. So if the vegan in question isn't particularly intelligent, would that mean that they don't have much else going for them...?
Confusedalways Posted September 19, 2010 Posted September 19, 2010 Definitely a deal breaker for me. I like my man to grill a mean steak Seriously though, one of my good friends is one and he and his girlfriend always have to cook separately, she's always complaining about it behind his back, bla bla bla. no thank you. not now, not ever.
In The Green Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 I sympathize with you OP. I am a vegetarian and actually 75% raw. Two of my meals of the day tend to be green smoothies. I do this for health reasons as well as moral. Over time, I have seen fantastic personal health gains from my choice. I have really learned about how much our food is related to the condition of our bodies. Unfortunately it has and continues to be a journey with other peoples' reactions. I do not preach, but often find my choices challenged by people/friends. I only ask that we eat at places where everyone can be covered, I wouldn't dream of making them eat at a veggie only restaurant. Is consideration too much work for people? I tend to just eat beforehand and meet up with them later, it saves a headache. What regular eaters don't understand is that when someone has been eating like this for a long period of time, standard food will make us ill. It is not worth getting sick in order to make someone feel better about their own food choices. Yes there are annoying veggies. But the quiet ones like me get an earful too from the SAD eaters. Live and let live! Is two separate meals so terrible? Isn't enjoying what you eat and being with the person you care about the important thing?
witabix Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 no, i wouldn't date a vegetarian or vegan. most of the ones i've met are pretty flakey I did once, that is why I have a carrot tattoo in a very odd place.
Gattica Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 Unfortunately it has and continues to be a journey with other peoples' reactions. I do not preach, but often find my choices challenged by people/friends. I only ask that we eat at places where everyone can be covered, I wouldn't dream of making them eat at a veggie only restaurant. Is consideration too much work for people? I tend to just eat beforehand and meet up with them later, it saves a headache. What regular eaters don't understand is that when someone has been eating like this for a long period of time, standard food will make us ill. It is not worth getting sick in order to make someone feel better about their own food choices. Yes there are annoying veggies. But the quiet ones like me get an earful too from the SAD eaters. Live and let live! Is two separate meals so terrible? Isn't enjoying what you eat and being with the person you care about the important thing? Great post! I am a vegetarian because I do not agree with factory farming. I probably eat vegan 80% of the time. I have a cheese addiction. I am trying to eliminate dairy products. I do not care what other people eat. I have been a vegetarian for nearly 20 years and have never dated a vegetarian or vegan...although, I would love to. I lived with a meat eater and I didn't purchase meat or prepare it. I would cook a lot and he would just prepare whatever animal based protein he wanted to eat along with what I cooked. It isn't a big deal at all. I have encountered some of the vegans/vegetarians people are describing in this thread, but not all of us are trying to shove our diet down other people's throats. As long as somebody doesn't judge me on my food choices, I don't judge them.
Cee Posted September 20, 2010 Posted September 20, 2010 I'm a guilty meat eater & was vegetarian a long time ago. If I dated a vegan, I'd go vegetarian at the least. I did date a vegan. He picked the restaurants so I most ate vegetarian with him although he had no problem with me eating meat at the Indian buffet. I still aspire for vegetarianism, but I admit my will is weak.
Sphere Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 Great post! I am a vegetarian because I do not agree with factory farming. I probably eat vegan 80% of the time. I have a cheese addiction. I am trying to eliminate dairy products. I do not care what other people eat. I have been a vegetarian for nearly 20 years and have never dated a vegetarian or vegan...although, I would love to. I lived with a meat eater and I didn't purchase meat or prepare it. I would cook a lot and he would just prepare whatever animal based protein he wanted to eat along with what I cooked. It isn't a big deal at all. I have encountered some of the vegans/vegetarians people are describing in this thread, but not all of us are trying to shove our diet down other people's throats. As long as somebody doesn't judge me on my food choices, I don't judge them. I think people have made a bigger deal out of this then necessary. I was a vegetarian for five years before giving it up and to be honest, if I was dating a vegetarian I'd probably go back to being vegetarian. I couldn't do the Vegan thing though, no cream cakes and Yoghurt? No....
Untouchable_Fire Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 I really enjoy yoga and meditation and thus have experimented by going on several yoga camps where they serve a vegan (or atleast vegetarian) diet. I have always felt as though I look and feel a lot healthier after eating this way.... so 9 months ago I decided to take on a vegan diet. Ever since, I have been on several dinner dates and food is often a topic of conversation. I always get a lot of questions about my vegan diet (why I decided to become vegan, what do I eat, where do I get my iron, etc). And along with the questions, I also get a lot of negative vibes and sometimes guys telling me 'that can't be healthy' or something along those lines... I always fear that people will judge my veganism as being self righteous or moralistic so I make sure they know that it's primarily a health choice rather than a moral one. I still feel like guys are very turned off by it though... Thoughts? Would you date a vegan? I've never met a vegan athlete or a vegan bodybuilder. I'm sure they exist... they just can't compete on a professional level. Actually I've only met 1 vegan lifetime that didn't look like he had 1 foot in the grave. Also... having known some hardcore vegans they lose the ability to eat regular food. It's like a dietary form of HIV. After a while the immunity to variety just dies. However... I will say it's important to eat a mix and veggies should play a prominent role.
Els Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 I would hope that any guy I'm with isn't one, because damn, that'd totally limit our list of meals and restaurants. I love meat, steakhouses are like my favourite places for dinner dates, etc. I'm not shallow enough to make that a dealbreaker, though. Ironically, I'm with a guy who absolutely hates greens, so it's a tad inconvenient as well, as if I cook for us both I'll have to make the veggies single portions. Still way better than a vegan though to me.
Author loverofloveandstuff Posted September 21, 2010 Author Posted September 21, 2010 I've never met a vegan athlete or a vegan bodybuilder. Who said anything about a vegan bodybuilder??? For me personally, a lot of people have mentioned how good I look since I've become vegan. I've lost quite a bit of weight, (I went from 57 to 47 kilos, but have since gained a couple of kilos back), and a lot of people have commented on how my skin is 'glowing.' Even though a lot of my friends give me crap for being vegan (mostly all in good nature), they are also saying 'maybe I should go on a vegan diet for awhile...' I'm just trying to say that we don't all look like we're half dead. And for me, it's about listening to my body. If I feel and look like crap, I will know that there is something wrong and I will attend to my needs in the best way I know how.
a_woman Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 So if the vegan in question isn't particularly intelligent, would that mean that they don't have much else going for them...? I think if someone isn't particularly intelligent, it doesn't matter what else they have going for them. vegan or not
a_woman Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 What regular eaters don't understand is that when someone has been eating like this for a long period of time, standard food will make us ill. It is not worth getting sick in order to make someone feel better about their own food choices. Yes there are annoying veggies. But the quiet ones like me get an earful too from the SAD eaters. Live and let live! Is two separate meals so terrible? Isn't enjoying what you eat and being with the person you care about the important thing? yes it is. it's very precious to make such a big deal out of something that's essentially about life support. when I meet someone with a particular attitude like this it makes me wonder what else they are so neurotic about.
Author loverofloveandstuff Posted September 21, 2010 Author Posted September 21, 2010 Also... having known some hardcore vegans they lose the ability to eat regular food. It's like a dietary form of HIV. After a while the immunity to variety just dies. I admit, I get quite offended and defensive when I hear people say things insinuating that vegans aren't healthy. As I said before, there are healthy vegans and there are unhealthy vegans just as there are healthy and unhealthy meat eaters. I feel the same way when I hear vegans criticize meat eaters. Many a time, I have heard a vegan say how toxic the non-vegan diet is and how unhealthy meat eaters are. I know that's not true. I know plenty of healthy people who eat dairy and meat on a regular basis.
Leigh 87 Posted September 21, 2010 Posted September 21, 2010 I am ina similar predicament. I love steak, but I do not eat: sugar or any chemicals that are man made. Under any circumstances. Ever. Another thing, is that because I work at Cafe's part part time, I ONLY eat out if I HAVE to; I would only do it if the other person suggested it. This isbecause I know the higeine practices in the Cafe's I have worked in, and do not want to eat of their plates for health reasons. I have learnt that it is all about how you go about it; I do not make a big deal out of the things I will not eat, and I do not preach or feel better then others, or try to lecture others on their food choices. I have never had an issue with the way in which I eat. Personally, I know that MY body is designed to eat meat; I dream of steak ( literally) without animals. I was a raw vegan for about a year, and it was nto right for my body. Moreover, I found the other raw vegans I knew to be flakey and a little... not " all there" Not being nasty, but I genuinly felt that their bodies were not getting the meat that they needed, and as a result their bodies were nto functioning optimally, which made them just.... off. I would not be turned ofrf a vegan if I liked being around them for who they were, however; I logically feel that if a person goes without any meat for many years and eats a very strict raw vegan diet, that because their bodies are lacking things, they will act in ways that could put a person off. How can one act sane, rational, and like a good version of themselves, if their bodies are not functioning properly because they eat NO meatm eggs, or dairy? Then again, our bodies are from different ancestory, and some people throughout ecvolution may have survived and adapted to little or no meat, which could explain why some people can act and feel normally without much,m or any meat. I know I need meat though. I do not even need much, even a small steak twice a week is enough.
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