Feelin Frisky Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 All I'll say is I won't have it. *restrains self*
elaina Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 You do realise that's a derogatory term, right? Ever heard the song "Jesus Freak" by Toby Mac? It's a phrase that many Christians have taken for ourselves and are not ashamed of it. I respect her opinions and religion, but I don't think we are going to get along as SOs.... Cool.
Eeyore79 Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 Ever heard the song "Jesus Freak" by Toby Mac? It's a phrase that many Christians have taken for ourselves and are not ashamed of it. It's still a derogatory term. Kind of like how white people used to call black people the N word, so black people claimed it and started saying it to each other.
phineas Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 It's still a derogatory term. Kind of like how white people used to call black people the N word, so black people claimed it and started saying it to each other. It's only derogatory if a Jew or Muslim says it to a Christian.
taiko Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 It's only derogatory if a Jew or Muslim says it to a Christian. No also have to count mainline /orthodox Christians, atheist and all others using it to describe a "Jesus Freak". It depends if the focus is on Jesus or that you are socially a freak
somedude81 Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 I wouldn't be surprised if the vast majority of the "wait till marriage" girls start having sex long before they are married. It's not like God even cares whether you have sex or not. He won't kick you out of heaven because you got horny.
tman666 Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 He won't kick you out of heaven because you got horny. Not true! I was kicked out of heaven last month due to excessive horniness! O_O
In_Repair Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 "super religious girls" who will have one night stands with a guy they find totally hot are a dime a dozen. the no sex until marriage sh*t is cause she aint into you. I didn't want to come right out and say that... but, yeah. No wonder some of these guys never get laid. Broaden your horizons. Damn.
tincanman99 Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 I dont think it will work out. Fundamentally your beliefs are way too different. I am not saying at that being super religious is bad nor putting it down in any way. Its just that you have one set of beliefs and the other person has another. In my experience they are not compatible unless one person is willing to change. I have a friend that is like this. When I met her she was a little wild and a lot of fun. She wanted to hook up with me (sex) numerous times but I had misgivings about it as she was a good friend and so it never happened. In total she told me she had slept with 60 men or so. That being said she went from that to becoming extremely religious. Has been for years now. Bible study multiple times a week, evangelical church - the full deal. She has a live in boyfriend but they sleep in separate bedrooms and she openly says no sex before marriage. Period the end. Regardless it has even impacted my friendship with her. Whenever I have dinner with her and her boyfriend they try to convert me. They are incredibly diligent. I am the product of 12 years of Catholic school so its not happening. But that being said the last time I saw them she told me that I was a servant of Satan. She compared me to Al Pacino in the Devils Advocate in that I am here to tempt people to do things that they shouldnt do. I just laughed and shrugged it off but all she said is that Satan is laughing through me. If I truly believed in being saved I would not be laughing. The scary part is they are serious. The whole point of this is that I think you are going to be in for a rough ride and are going to be incredibly disappointed. People that are ultra religious are what they are.
elaina Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 The scary part is they are serious. The whole point of this is that I think you are going to be in for a rough ride and are going to be incredibly disappointed. People that are ultra religious are what they are. Hello Tincanman, Religious people are incredibly diverse, like non-religious people are incredibly diverse. Not everybody is the same. So, there are some religious people who are sexually active outside of marriage, and some who aren't. There are some religious people who actively try to convert the whole world, and some don't. There are some who see "satan" in everything that doesn't line up to their beliefs, and some don't. It's hard to generalize all of any group of people, since people are by nature diverse.
Scottdmw Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 OP, to me this question would depend on what exactly you're worried about, and what exactly you mean by super religious. If the girl is annoyingly persistent in trying to force you to adopt her beliefs, that is probably a bad thing. On the other hand, if she sincerely holds herself to moral ideals without being preachy, the only “danger” there is that you might be convinced to change your mind. I'm suspecting that the sex issue is a big part of it for you. That is understandable. I would say the question to ask yourself there is, what are you looking for in a relationship? If you're looking for a short-term physical relationship, obviously this is not for you. On the other hand if you are at the point in life where you are looking for potential marriage, that's a different story. There have actually been studies that show that highly religious people have very satisfying sex lives, after marriage. It is not really the case that these people are prudes, frigid, etc. (at least not most of them), they have simply made a decision to wait until marriage for reasons that seem good to them. So, if you're looking for marriage, you might not be “losing” that much in terms of sex, if you look at it over your whole life. Scott
Mad Max Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 Religious is one thing, but super religious is a huge turn off. And for the record, a ton of these so called "religious" girls give tons of head and still claim to be virgins because they weren't penetrated.
elaina Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 OP, to me this question would depend on what exactly you're worried about, and what exactly you mean by super religious. Agreed If the girl is annoyingly persistent in trying to force you to adopt her beliefs, that is probably a bad thing.Yep On the other hand, if she sincerely holds herself to moral ideals without being preachy, the only “danger” there is that you might be convinced to change your mind.I'm gonna be "preachy" for a second, but for many religious people, not "fornicating" or "committing adultery" go along with the 10 commandments which includes other moral ideals, like not stealing and not killing and not lying. Some moral codes are easy to keep, like for me since I'm not a soldier or police officer, not killing has never been a problem for me. (I've never killed anybody, and I assume a vast majority of people on loveshack who are not in the military or are the police don't kill others.) However, sexual stuff is a lot harder to hold to a moral ideal, especially since it's not considered to hurt an adult if done consensually. I'm suspecting that the sex issue is a big part of it for you. That is understandable. I would say the question to ask yourself there is, what are you looking for in a relationship? If you're looking for a short-term physical relationship, obviously this is not for you. On the other hand if you are at the point in life where you are looking for potential marriage, that's a different story. There have actually been studies that show that highly religious people have very satisfying sex lives, after marriage. It is not really the case that these people are prudes, frigid, etc. (at least not most of them), they have simply made a decision to wait until marriage for reasons that seem good to them. So, if you're looking for marriage, you might not be “losing” that much in terms of sex, if you look at it over your whole life.True, though yeah there are cases where religious people who have not been sexually active get married and find they are not sexually compatible, but yes there are cases where they have very satisfying sex lives too. People are diverse. Stereotyping a group of people doesn't take into consideration that people are different.
Author zxvf Posted September 9, 2010 Author Posted September 9, 2010 If the girl is annoyingly persistent in trying to force you to adopt her beliefs, that is probably a bad thing. On the other hand, if she sincerely holds herself to moral ideals without being preachy, the only “danger” there is that you might be convinced to change your mind. Well for starters: - Meeting the parents before the "first date" (okay, this is a norm I suppose) - Have 14 kids (um... ) - Go to church and start reading the bible, and memorize the bible (Never went to church once in my life, nor am I good at memorizing, I prefer to learn the theories instead.) - Must give up masturbating, porn, and alcohol. (Seriously?) - Everything I do could be a sin and offend her. I'm suspecting that the sex issue is a big part of it for you. That is understandable. I would say the question to ask yourself there is, what are you looking for in a relationship? If you're looking for a short-term physical relationship, obviously this is not for you. On the other hand if you are at the point in life where you are looking for potential marriage, that's a different story. I am looking for someone that I would/could get married with. Personally, if we are right, are think we have a chance of getting married, then sex before marriage is okay for me. There have actually been studies that show that highly religious people have very satisfying sex lives, after marriage. It is not really the case that these people are prudes, frigid, etc. (at least not most of them), they have simply made a decision to wait until marriage for reasons that seem good to them. So, if you're looking for marriage, you might not be “losing” that much in terms of sex, if you look at it over your whole life. Scott No, its not loosing much, but it is also sorta like saying, "hey, let's enjoy that watermelon after it is gone old and rotten" (Sorry ladies) because god knows when I am ready to get married. (For one, I am trying to finish University, and I am independent of the parents, so... ) On top of that. I think her parents are shielding her from the outside world, she is home schooled, also, technology is not a big part of her life, or there is some weird things happening. For one, she claimed that she sent ONE text message to her friend, and that costed her father $20. While on the other hand, she also claimed that "15 text message and three long distance phone call" costs $1000. Which is absurd, I use the same phone provider, and have NEVER those thing happen... So like I said in an earlier post. I am just going to stay as friend, or heck, stay as far as I can.
GooseChaser Posted September 9, 2010 Posted September 9, 2010 (edited) What, so just because a person is religious they have to go by every ideal of their religion? Would it suddenly be okay for them to have sex if they just decided, "You know what? I want to have sex. It's sure a shame that isn't an option for religious people... I guess I have to leave the religion, and there is no other option... *cry* :(" What a loss! No. All people are "sinful." Being Christian does not make a person better or perfect, and it doesn't give us the right to look down on others who believe differently. (I personally believe that as a Christian, I cannot condemn others to hell. The judgment is left to God.) According to the Bible, "All sin and fall short of the glory of God." No one is perfect. In the Christian perspective, a person is saved by believing and putting their faith in God. Certainly, premarital sex is a big sin, and one that many Christians take seriously, but it is forgivable. They might be looked down on in the church, however, if people found out. Personally, it is a pet peeve of mine when guys think that just because I am a Christian girl, I have no interest in anything physical, and give me no chance. I guess it just shows I'm better off without them.... I am not afraid of sex, and will enjoy it later on in life, just like non-religious people. Seriously-- for some people, that is a major reason that they are not religious. I find that silly, if they'd consider it otherwise. Besides, even if a person is abstinent until marriage, religious people are not restricted after marriage-- within the marriage. There are many benefits to waiting as well, or at least not being promiscuous. It is a smart way to go about sex, for many reasons. By the way: Some moral codes are easy to keep, like for me since I'm not a soldier or police officer, not killing has never been a problem for me. (I've never killed anybody, and I assume a vast majority of people on loveshack who are not in the military or are the police don't kill others.) People for whom killing is a responsibility, such as government officers, are given the power from God to kill, and in that case, it is acceptable, as long as it is done responsibly and ethically. Edited September 9, 2010 by GooseChaser
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