U.S Women vs Foreign Women

[skydiveaddict]

Oh' date=' eeeesh. [/quote']

 

 

 

very very sad but true.

[SpanksTheMonkey]

Yea, I have no idea what she's talking about. Women enjoy making their boyfriends/husbands happy just as much now as they did at any time. Taking care of your man and your family for some women means working and doing certain other things that might be non-traditional.

 

I don't see women ever going,"Yes! My boyfriend/husband is so miserable in our relationship. It's great." XD Uh, no, we all want them to be happy to be with us and if we love them, we all want to take care of them.

 

Just like if they love us, they'll feel the same way.

 

This has nothing to do with traditional values versus non-traditional values or someone's gender. It has to do with whether or not a person loves who they are with.

 

Some women do some women don't thats what im getting at I wasn't making any personal judgments toward any one women in this thread please don't take it that way.

 

I honestly do see it this way example my mom went completely out of her way to take care of my father she cooked she cleaned she saw him out the door ever day at 4am and she did that because it was what she wanted to do it made her happy.

 

Now a days allot of women wouldn't we be so willing to go "above and beyond" to make their men happy like that anymore they think that makes them his servant in some way.

 

Again this is just my view on it and in no way am I trying to be rude to any women on here of course women shouldn't be expected to go beyond and above no.

[Sphere]

American women are the most beautiful in the world, but their accents are irritating and their personalities are of an acquired taste, though I'd rather have an American woman than a British one. You think American women are bad, British women are ten times worse. Woggle wouldn't survive in Britain.

 

Though I prefer women from Italy, Spain, Argentina, Chile and Mexico to any other woman on the planet.

[skydiveaddict]

American women are the most beautiful in the world, but their accents are irritating and their personalities are of an acquired taste, though I'd rather have an American woman than a British one. You think American women are bad, British women are ten times worse. Woggle wouldn't survive in Britain.

 

Though I prefer women from Italy, Spain, Argentina, Chile and Mexico to any other woman on the planet.

 

 

Hell, I cant find a date anywhere British or otherwise

[Sphere]

Hell, I cant find a date anywhere British or otherwise

 

I date far too much in search for my own female Neo in my Matrix and the slippery eel keeps surpassing my net.

 

I think it's time the Chopper Gunner and Harrier Strikes came out.

[zengirl]

Some women do some women don't thats what im getting at I wasn't making any personal judgments toward any one women in this thread please don't take it that way.

 

I honestly do see it this way example my mom went completely out of her way to take care of my father she cooked she cleaned she saw him out the door ever day at 4am and she did that because it was what she wanted to do it made her happy.

 

Now a days allot of women wouldn't we be so willing to go "above and beyond" to make their men happy like that anymore they think that makes them his servant in some way.

 

Again this is just my view on it and in no way am I trying to be rude to any women on here of course women shouldn't be expected to go beyond and above no.

 

I don't think you're trying to be rude, but I do think you miss the point. It's not that I actively have any worries or aversion to being a "servant" (though, yes, I believe neither men, nor women, should feel entitled to have anyone serve them in the home OR support them financially; that doesn't mean I think it's wrong when a person wants or a couple chooses this lifestyle; it's the entitlement issue).

 

I don't want to be a housewife. It wouldn't be right for me. I only date men who understand, respect, and appreciate this, and don't want that kind of gal. There are many of these out there. That's not to say I don't do nice things for my SO----I am actually an exceedingly generous and caring significant other who really enjoys doing things for both my SO as well as friends and family. I want to share the household chores AND the bread-winning, because I believe that there are different ways to show caring and contribute. And I generally want a SO that feels the same way.

 

With my live-in SO: I used to take care of my SO when he was sick, I took him on vacation for his birthday, I hemmed his pants from time to time, I listened when he needed support, I attended work functions with him, I helped him get his company off the ground, I would cook his favorite meals sometimes, etc. And it's not like it's this bitter thing where I'm angry if I have to scoop his dirty socks off the ground or everything. But I do expect a fellow to be able to cook, clean, etc, and to make an active effort around the house, as he would if he were living alone (and I don't like slobs in general). I also worked plenty and contributed mostly equally to the finances (this depended upon who was making more at any given time, as there was a time I left my job, and another time he was laid off, where we both helped the other out). It was a partnership.

 

This is reflective of many relationships and marriages I see today, and I don't think it has anything to do with a gal not wanting to make their mates happy. We just realize that the world is not cookie cutter and the ways in which we can make each other happy are vast.

[SpanksTheMonkey]

I don't think you're trying to be rude, but I do think you miss the point. It's not that I actively have any worries or aversion to being a "servant" (though, yes, I believe neither men, nor women, should feel entitled to have anyone serve them in the home OR support them financially; that doesn't mean I think it's wrong when a person wants or a couple chooses this lifestyle; it's the entitlement issue).

 

I don't want to be a housewife. It wouldn't be right for me. I only date men who understand, respect, and appreciate this, and don't want that kind of gal. There are many of these out there. That's not to say I don't do nice things for my SO----I am actually an exceedingly generous and caring significant other who really enjoys doing things for both my SO as well as friends and family. I want to share the household chores AND the bread-winning, because I believe that there are different ways to show caring and contribute. And I generally want a SO that feels the same way.

 

With my live-in SO: I used to take care of my SO when he was sick, I took him on vacation for his birthday, I hemmed his pants from time to time, I listened when he needed support, I attended work functions with him, I helped him get his company off the ground, I would cook his favorite meals sometimes, etc. And it's not like it's this bitter thing where I'm angry if I have to scoop his dirty socks off the ground or everything. But I do expect a fellow to be able to cook, clean, etc, and to make an active effort around the house, as he would if he were living alone (and I don't like slobs in general). I also worked plenty and contributed mostly equally to the finances (this depended upon who was making more at any given time, as there was a time I left my job, and another time he was laid off, where we both helped the other out). It was a partnership.

 

This is reflective of many relationships and marriages I see today, and I don't think it has anything to do with a gal not wanting to make their mates happy. We just realize that the world is not cookie cutter and the ways in which we can make each other happy are vast.

 

Then your not one of the women im talking about it sounds like you do your part in a relationship the best way you see fit. But that actually included doing something in the home as well good on ya. I think the women im talking about are more like my sister in law was totally unwilling to do close to anything. And when questioned come back with a response of im not your servant do it yourself! Why should he after hes worked all day and shes been sitting around on her grand duff doing dittley squat..

[zengirl]

Then your not one of the women im talking about it sounds like you do your part in a relationship the best way you see fit. But that actually included doing something in the home as well good on ya. I think the women im talking about are more like my sister in law was totally unwilling to do close to anything. And when questioned come back with a response of im not your servant do it yourself! Why should he after hes worked all day and shes been sitting around on her grand duff doing dittley squat..

 

Well, yes, but I wouldn't want to live with a fellow like her either. Of course, I don't refuse to do anything around the house. I think anyone, male or female, who flat-out refuses to do anything around the house is likely both selfish and a slob. I live alone now and am not a slob either. I was raised better than that!

 

[Eve]

Overall the real issue is that European men have larger penis sizes. This is why European women are generally happier and have a distinct glow to their skin that is not present in American women.

 

All the fab sex we get is the reason why we are thinner. Scientific fact.

 

Plus we have better TV Channels and are richer.

 

Take care,

Eve xx

[BS76]

It's all about me me me with them and the hell with a man's feelings and desires.

 

Also binge drinking, crass talking, and other unfeminine behavior in general. Although that's Westernized women across the board these days and not just the US. The women in the UK are notorious for binge drinking and all the consequences that follows (splayed out spread eagle in the gutter, puking on people, etc).

[Green]

It's interesting that the post is dated 1/14/08 also and that today's date is 8/15/10, isn't it? That you likely spent LOTS of time plowing through LOTS of posts says more about you than him.

 

2.5 years is a long time, plenty to change one's perspective. Moreover, there's no inherent conflict. The 2.5 year old post didn't mention whether the "best women" described were actually -from- the U.S., just that they were living here. In fact, he expressly states, "best women from all over the planet" which to a reasonable person would suggest he is talking specifically about foreign women living here.

 

This was great... and I was pretty much saying we have the Best because women from all over the world come to this country.

 

and yes in 2.5 years I have changed my view some.

[Scottdmw]

See, the underlined parts of your post to know what I mean when I say . . . . .

 

You find a woman being inferior to you to be attractive? =/ That's disturbing. I don't want a man to be beneath me. He should desire to be my equal and I'd never tell him that he was unattractive for trying to be so.

 

Also, what is attractive and what is not is largely based on culture. So are these really hot to you?

 

http://roadtickle.com/most-painful-cultural-beauty-practices/

 

Because they were/are considered very attractive in the cultures they come from.

 

It's interesting to me that I never said anything about finding a woman who was “inferior” to be attractive. That's your word. I think it proves my point very well. You very much want to make this about inferiority. That's been the whole feminist thread ever since it started. You take what is a difference and turn it into an inferiority. If a man says he wants it to be different all you can hear is that he wants you to be inferior. Then you either blame men for wanting what they want or feel like you have to prove you're not inferior.

 

So, why did you do it? Why did you take what I said about wanting men and women to be different in the way I think they naturally are, and turn it into me wanting women to be inferior?

[Scottdmw]

 

Also, I find the suggestion that the men I find by being successful are "not as good" to be ludicrous. The best sort of man to me includes one who if fully on board protecting the rights of all people in a community to do what they like, so long as they work towards it honestly, and who recognizes all kinds of talents in a mate. I've never had trouble meeting men with these thoughts who were also intelligent, funny, attractive, successful, fun, and interesting. I have met men who were ambivalent to my success and drive and men who were impressed by it; I suppose anyone turned off by it would not date me, but I've no complaints about that.

 

 

 

 

I respect most of the opinions you posted here in response to my post, but there is one I want to comment on.

 

I find it very interesting that you used the phrase “The best sort of man to me includes one who is fully on board protecting the rights of all people in a community to do what they like”. The reason it is interesting to me is that I never said anything about people not having rights, about me taking away rights, or me not supporting rights. I actually went pretty far out of my way to make it clear I was fine with a woman doing anything she truly wanted to do.

 

The fact that you read the message I wrote and felt like you had to bring rights into it, I think, supports my basic point about the tendencies of feminist lines of thought. I just feel like you are way too worried about rights, when that's not really the best question to ask. It seems like whenever a man tries to question the “new” gender roles, rather than honestly and sincerely answering the question many women will go off on a tangent about rights without answering the actual question.

 

Of course it is a woman's right to work in any career she wants, I made that clear. The question I asked is whether that really makes sense for her to do for her own good.

[Green]

I respect most of the opinions you posted here in response to my post, but there is one I want to comment on.

 

I find it very interesting that you used the phrase “The best sort of man to me includes one who is fully on board protecting the rights of all people in a community to do what they like”. The reason it is interesting to me is that I never said anything about people not having rights, about me taking away rights, or me not supporting rights. I actually went pretty far out of my way to make it clear I was fine with a woman doing anything she truly wanted to do.

 

The fact that you read the message I wrote and felt like you had to bring rights into it, I think, supports my basic point about the tendencies of feminist lines of thought. I just feel like you are way too worried about rights, when that's not really the best question to ask. It seems like whenever a man tries to question the “new” gender roles, rather than honestly and sincerely answering the question many women will go off on a tangent about rights without answering the actual question.

 

Of course it is a woman's right to work in any career she wants, I made that clear. The question I asked is whether that really makes sense for her to do for her own good.

 

I think this is an accurate assesment of the situation. I doubt she'll see it this way though

[silverfish]

I'm not punished in the real world I have a really hot gf and your so called "decent" guys stare at me in awe because they wonder how I do so good with women. I tell them I just use comon sense and refuse to settle.

 

seriously though the european girls on this thread don't really argue with me and just say funny sht that cracks me up... I think Silverfish actualy helps make my point even though I remain firm that the UK has physicaly un apealing people at higher rates then the US

 

You can't argue with someones subjective opinion, it's futile. All I will say is though....don't ever go to Newport

 

I live in a little town with loads of tourists about this time of year, and there is a lot of prejudice against them from some locals. The Americans are only marginally below the Germans in the league of most disliked visitors, and I think that's pretty much standard throughout the UK, no idea why....they tip pretty well

 

The point being, we all have prejudices against groups of people to some degree, and TBH, I don't have a problem with it, as long as no one gets hurt. I have my own as well, I just don't feel the need to post threads about them, or go out of my way to hurt people's feelings unnecessarily.

[Woggle]

People around the world don't like Americans because of the image that is portrayed to the world. They think we are all a bunch of war mongering bigots with no morals.

[silverfish]

People around the world don't like Americans because of the image that is portrayed to the world. They think we are all a bunch of war mongering bigots with no morals.

 

I think in the UK it's more subtle than that...more a perception that Americans lack empathy and tact perhaps.

 

Like I said they are good tippers and fairly pleasant. The Germans are pretty much treated with rudeness wherever they go around here, it's embarrassing actually.

[MrNate]

People around the world don't like Americans because of the image that is portrayed to the world. They think we are all a bunch of war mongering bigots with no morals.

 

Yeah, and rightfully so. Sometimes I wish we could just forget everyone else and worry about ourselves for a change.

 

Of course we rely on other economies and such, but sometimes I wish it could just be kept to business, instead of invading everything possible.

[Woggle]

Yeah, and rightfully so. Sometimes I wish we could just forget everyone else and worry about ourselves for a change.

 

Of course we rely on other economies and such, but sometimes I wish it could just be kept to business, instead of invading everything possible.

 

I don't blame them either. America is not it's best right now and that is putting it lightly though I go on some british boards and the comments there are just as ignorant.

[Sphere]

I don't blame them either. America is not it's best right now and that is putting it lightly though I go on some british boards and the comments there are just as ignorant.

 

An American went to our school when I was 11 and he was beaten up every single day he was at our school and left after four months. Americans by in large aren't liked in Britain.

[gypsy_nicky]

 

 

I find foreign women have a different attitude towards men. Their mothers and grandmothers please their man with pride.

 

 

 

go back in time if you want submissive women

[Woggle]

 

go back in time if you want submissive women

 

In return the men please their women with pride. It goes both ways which is something western feminists don't get. Their power struggle approach to relationships has pretty much killed love in modern society.

[AverageJoe]

 

go back in time if you want submissive women

 

Sorry to hurt your delicate sensibilities but you are a bit late to the party, this has already been addressed.

However, its very interesting many female and even some male readers cast aspersions about things I never wrote at all. Fabricated. Also some of the things I did write were never addressed either. Why not? Again, possibly by American females. Do you get why I am garnering a distaste for this adolescent bs? Just read this thread.

 

I am somewhat suprised, at the same time dissapointed this post has gone on as far as it has. Regardless of my delivery method in the initial post (I am not a pc kind of guy) there is truth to it. Whether you like it or not. Some have stood back with an objective view and thought about it, while others had emotional knee jerk reactions and started the attack.

 

I would say 80% of the responses here have only reinforced my opinion about some American women being bitches. Thankfully I know many women outside of this forum with an open mind and dont immediatly jump on the bandwagon within their brood.

I suppose this is a forum of discussion afterall. It is what it is.

[that girl]

Of course it is a woman's right to work in any career she wants, I made that clear. The question I asked is whether that really makes sense for her to do for her own good.

If you don't think a woman should focus on her career, should her husband be the sole breadwinner?

 

And if her husband is the sole breadwinner, what happens to her and her children should be die or run off? One of my grandmothers and one of my greatgrandmothers ended up going from traditional middle class housewives to low wage workers because their husbands died at a young age. At the time there wasn't much opportunity for women.

 

Both of my parents always felt very strongly that a woman should be able to support herself fully having these situations in their families. So I never understand this idea that being a career woman somehow means you hate men or are totally unwilling to have a traditional home. Or that there isn't a benefit to having a two career family where people equally split housework.

 

Bringing it back to the OP, he isn't offering these women anything long term. He wants dedication and sacrifice without offering anything up. That is entitlement, not women who prefer to have careers and split housework equally with their husbands.

 

I find foreign women have a different attitude towards men. Their mothers and grandmothers please their man with pride.

This whole idea of serving with pride comes up over and over again, but no one mentions the man serving with pride. Happy marriages require both people serve each other without complaint, whether they are traditional or modern. But there are a lot of selfish people out there and only some of them have vaginas.

[silverfish]

In return the men please their women with pride. It goes both ways which is something western feminists don't get. Their power struggle approach to relationships has pretty much killed love in modern society.

 

I can see where you are coming from with this, but this thread was started by a man and is titled in a confrontational manner, 'Foreign women V US Women' which screams insecurity on the part of the OP. In the same way that the fat threads, single parent threads, ugly man, small penis threads do.

 

It's just showing laziness and peanut munching Madame Guillotine mentality on all our parts somewhat by posting and responding without ever getting anywhere. It only really matters in our own personal relationships with the people we love.