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Yea, but her point was also that the men here are *******s too. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

 

Which I also disagree with.

 

This thread is about Women... what do I care if she thinks men are shts or what everl.. I didn't say foreign women were perfect... just better and more attractive. Plus she is from the UK and they have always been on my sht list.

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No I only ever dated american women and they were all horible except for the one I date now. I do live in this country and have probably only spent the equivalent of 3 months outside of it. But every time I leave the U.S. with the exception of England and maybe Greece the women have always been better looking then what I usualy see around here.

Three months abroad and you know all about those "foriegn" women? That doesn't seem ridiculous to you?

 

The most anti american sentiment I encountered was in France but even those women seemed extra friendly if you know what I mean.

All I can think is that this must be a language issue. Or one French lady hit on you and now you think they're all after you. I'm semi-well travelled and I've probably spent 3+ years living and travelling abroad if you add it all together. I consider Europeans markedly less friendly than New World types (I haven't been to Asia or Africa so I can't comment on those countries). I would peg Aussies/Kiwis as the friendliest and most outgoing people I've run across, followed by Americans (particularly Southerners), followed by Latin Americans (though I haven't visited all of Latin America), followed by Canadians. The former USSR tends to be more brusque than New Yorkers. And I'm not trying to knock Europeans, but friendliness to strangers is much stronger in the New World.

 

And for all the talk about fat American bitches, there are more overweight men in the US than women.

elaina Established Member

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Women are the same everywhere. If one culture attracts you, then naturally you think their women are "better." Some people are enamored with the US culture. Others are not.

 

I ended up marrying an Asian girl. The myth about Asian girls being subservient are just that--a myth. My wife doesn't put up with being ignored or taken for granted. But give her affection and love, and she's more than content to be in the supportive role and have me take the lead.

 

May be it's cultural but she doesn't get flustered with setbacks and always happy with whatever little we have. We used to be poor, and she was happy. We are now relatively well-off, and she's happy. She had said that if we go back to being poor, she'd be happy as long as we have our family. She's always the first to smile and lift me up when I'm down. Happy, content, and appreciative of efforts I put forth. Those are her best qualities.

 

I'm not saying that you can't find these qualities in women raised in the US culture. But I didn't when I was dating. And I dated a lot.

 

I also admit that it's nice that my wife is still thin and shapely. When we go out with friends of the same age, everyone seems to be wearing the middle-age spread on their waists, and she still has the girlish looks. Always feminine and a lady and make an effort to look pretty when I'm around, something else I'm very proud of to have her.

 

If something ever happens to her, I would never marry again. I don't think I'd be this lucky twice.

 

Hello Nddb,

 

That's so sweet!!! :) It's actually the best post I've read in this thread! (I think there might be other awesome posts, but maybe I skipped them I don't know.

 

I hope that you copy your message and print it and put it in a place where someday your wife can read it. I think it would make her happy too (and that's awesome that she is happy in every situation!

 

Thanks for sharing about your wife.

 

Concerning me, I have only dated people originally from other countries. I don't plan it that way; it just happens. I don't have anything personally against American guys, so it's not like I'm bitter or an American man hater. I'm just more attracted to people from overseas. :)

 

My best friend, however, loves and is engaged to a wonderful American man. Do I think that's horrible? No way! Nationality doesn't make a person good or bad. It's their core convictions, their integrity, their purpose in life that directs the steps they take. There are wonderful American men, and there are not so wonderful American men, same as men everywhere. To the OP, there are wonderful American women, and there are not so wonderful American women, and there are wonderful "foreign" women, and there are not so wonderful foreign women. It all depends on the person, not the country that person belongs to.

Green Established Member

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Three months abroad and you know all about those "foriegn" women? That doesn't seem ridiculous to you?

 

 

All I can think is that this must be a language issue. Or one French lady hit on you and now you think they're all after you. I'm semi-well travelled and I've probably spent 3+ years living and travelling abroad if you add it all together. I consider Europeans markedly less friendly than New World types (I haven't been to Asia or Africa so I can't comment on those countries). I would peg Aussies/Kiwis as the friendliest and most outgoing people I've run across, followed by Americans (particularly Southerners), followed by Latin Americans (though I haven't visited all of Latin America), followed by Canadians. The former USSR tends to be more brusque than New Yorkers. And I'm not trying to knock Europeans, but friendliness to strangers is much stronger in the New World.

 

And for all the talk about fat American bitches, there are more overweight men in the US than women.

 

I've actualy spent almost 13 years in countries other then the US but I was talking about the amount of time I spent in Europe.

 

I do agree that americans can be friendly in certain ways that Europeans are lacking.

 

What I don't agree with is that women in the US especialy at the mid to later 20's are as thin and good looking as most european women excluding the UK.

 

Also European women seem to treat men better when it comes to social interaction.

zengirl Established Member

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Three months abroad and you know all about those "foriegn" women? That doesn't seem ridiculous to you?

 

 

All I can think is that this must be a language issue. Or one French lady hit on you and now you think they're all after you. I'm semi-well travelled and I've probably spent 3+ years living and travelling abroad if you add it all together. I consider Europeans markedly less friendly than New World types (I haven't been to Asia or Africa so I can't comment on those countries). I would peg Aussies/Kiwis as the friendliest and most outgoing people I've run across, followed by Americans (particularly Southerners), followed by Latin Americans (though I haven't visited all of Latin America), followed by Canadians. The former USSR tends to be more brusque than New Yorkers. And I'm not trying to knock Europeans, but friendliness to strangers is much stronger in the New World.

 

And for all the talk about fat American bitches, there are more overweight men in the US than women.

 

I agree with you on Aussie/Kiwis. They are really friendly. The South Africans I know are super friendly, too. Also agree with you on the former Soviet Bloc countries. My best friend is Russian, but she's mean as heck to strangers and so are most of her Russian friends. Perfectly friendly if you know her, of course.

 

The Japanese are the most exceedingly kind to strangers people I've met. However, my experiences are partly impacted by being half-Japanese(American). But most of my friends who've visited Japan agree. Though they aren't effusive.

Pyro Established Member

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This thread is about Women... what do I care if she thinks men are shts or what everl.. I didn't say foreign women were perfect... just better and more attractive. Plus she is from the UK and they have always been on my sht list.

 

http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t141373/

 

Post #3 is interesting.;):laugh:

Green Established Member

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Well this was before my 3 month trip to europe.

 

And My gf is american and she is the best girl in the world. I do think because of the massive number of women we have here we do have some really good looking and great girls... BUTTTT the avg girl in europe compared to the avg girl here makes me laugh.

 

So yes we have the BEST .... but The entire USA inst NYC, LA, MIAMI, CHICAGO ect...

 

I do love the USA its my country I have citizenship to many different countries actualy and the USA is my favorite one to have.

 

By the way... what country is your gf from pyro???

skydiveaddict Established Member

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Women are the same everywhere..

 

 

Not true in some cultures women will shoot at you if you are someone they dont like. I've seen it.

Pyro Established Member

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Well this was before my 3 month trip to europe.

 

And My gf is american and she is the best girl in the world. I do think because of the massive number of women we have here we do have some really good looking and great girls... BUTTTT the avg girl in europe compared to the avg girl here makes me laugh.

 

So yes we have the BEST .... but The entire USA inst NYC, LA, MIAMI, CHICAGO ect...

 

I do love the USA its my country I have citizenship to many different countries actualy and the USA is my favorite one to have.

 

By the way... what country is your gf from pyro???

 

So you went from having two citizenships to many? Keep the story straight

 

My fiancee is from a country outside of the US but that doesn't mean that all foreign women are all of a sudden better than all US women.

 

US and foreign women each have their good and bad women. Yes we may be a more obese country but that doesn't make them any less of a person.

Pyro Established Member

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Not true in some cultures women will shoot at you if you are someone they dont like. I've seen it.

 

which cultures are those?:rolleyes:

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It's interesting that the post is dated 1/14/08 also and that today's date is 8/15/10, isn't it? That you likely spent LOTS of time plowing through LOTS of posts says more about you than him.

 

2.5 years is a long time, plenty to change one's perspective. Moreover, there's no inherent conflict. The 2.5 year old post didn't mention whether the "best women" described were actually -from- the U.S., just that they were living here. In fact, he expressly states, "best women from all over the planet" which to a reasonable person would suggest he is talking specifically about foreign women living here.

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Yes, this is what I find odd. Men constantly saying women hate and attack them . . . so they hate and attack women. Did you ever think that maybe these women don't see men as the enemy, but just men who say things like this.

 

Lots of this, including the sentiments that lead to threads like this one, comes from the political devaluation of men in the U.S. that has been ongoing for the last 30 years, though I don't think many men realize this completely yet, hence they target the women who have been manipulated rather than the people actually doing the manipulating.

 

Women have been told that men are the enemy for so long that is has become ingrained. The level of antimale agitprop is more over the top in the U.S. than Stalinist rhetoric ever was in the USSR, or ever has been in any other country. In fact, maintain that no other country on Earth has ever propagandized gender relations to the level that U.S. political interests have, and it is spreading to many other westernized countries also.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-12-25-masculine-features_x.htm

 

http://www.rense.com/general81/vdt.htm

 

http://news.mensactivism.org/articles/02/02/21/0158254_F.shtml

 

http://www.australian-news.com.au/gender_bias.htm

 

http://www.australian-news.com.au/genderbias.htm

 

 

Woggle is correct in something I see him repeating, and that is that lots of American women see no level of bad treatment commonly shown to men is too much because "they had it coming." No previous generation of American women had it as good as the current ones, YET THEY DID NOT HAVE THIS ATTITUDE. The more U.S. society has given to women in the way of equality, the more angry, embittered, and anti-male they have become. Why is this? Because all the anti-male messages in society have done their job so well that they continue to operate whether they are grounded in reality or not, that's why. It's hard to turn propaganda off once it's started, it's not a faucet with a simple on/off switch.

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Ive been thinking about this subject more and I think it all comes down to changing ideals/values back in my moms day it was seen as a mark of pride when a women "took good care" of her man. It was what made women feel good back then knowing they had a man they loved and wanted to make happy.

 

Now a days womens ideals/values have changed now they don't see it as a thing to be so proud of but rather as a mark of inequality im not saying either view is better then the other but thats just how I see it.

 

I personalty tend to still see it in the more traditionalist sense I relay enjoy taking care of my man to the best of my ability (note tho that doesn't mean im his servant by any means)..

skydiveaddict Established Member

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which cultures are those?:rolleyes:

 

 

In Iraq and Afghanistan

Pyro Established Member

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In Iraq and Afghanistan

 

you mean they shoot at all men or just US soldiers?

zengirl Established Member

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In Iraq and Afghanistan

 

Pretty sure those folks would shoot me too, if they knew I was American. So would the fellows over there. You could add North Korea too. Doesn't really have much to do with dating them, though, does it?

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In Iraq and Afghanistan

 

Everybody is shooting at every one in those countries war will do that to a people thats hardly a good example there also blowing each other up left and right as well thats not something you see every were well ide def hope not..

skydiveaddict Established Member

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you mean they shoot at all men or just US soldiers?

 

 

just us coalition forces. Nothing ever comes from it really.

zengirl Established Member

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Ive been thinking about this subject more and I think it all comes down to changing ideals/values back in my moms day it was seen as a mark of pride when a women "took good care" of her man. It was what made women feel good back then knowing they had a man they loved and wanted to make happy.

 

Now a days womens ideals/values have changed now they don't see it as a thing to be so proud of but rather as a mark of inequality im not saying either view is better then the other but thats just how I see it.

 

I personalty tend to still see it in the more traditionalist sense I relay enjoy taking care of my man to the best of my ability (note tho that doesn't mean im his servant by any means)..

 

Oh, goodness, I don't see it as a mark of inequality if any woman takes care of a man in any way that she wants to, including the traditional version. If she is living a life that makes her happy, then I think it is a mark of pride. But it's not a mark of shame if something else is what makes you happy. And other things can be a mark of pride too. It's anyone demanding all women take care of their men in some specific way or set of ways that I would find unequal. Saying, "I want to marry a good homemaker who will contribute by taking care of our children and keeping the home wonderful while I support her" is perfectly fine, as is wanting to be that good homemaker. Saying, "Women are should be good happy homemakers because it's what they're supposed to do/made for" bothers me or claiming to be better on more than a personal preference level.

 

Really, it's all about choices.

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Pyro Established Member

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just us coalition forces. Nothing ever comes from it really.

 

and I am willing to bet that if we were not at war with those cultures and you were there just visiting then it wouldn't be an issue.

K'aycie Established Member

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In Iraq and Afghanistan

 

I've never heard of women natives shooting at coalition forces. :confused:

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Oh, goodness, I don't see it as a mark of inequality if any woman takes care of a man in any way that she wants to, including the traditional version. If she is living a life that makes her happy, then I think it is a mark of pride. But it's not a mark of shame if something else is what makes you happy. And other things can be a mark of pride too. It's anyone demanding all women take care of their men in some specific way or set of ways that I would find unequal. Saying, "I want to marry a good homemaker who will contribute by taking care of our children and keeping the home wonderful while I support her" is perfectly fine, as is wanting to be that good homemaker. Saying, "Women are should be good happy homemakers because it's what they're supposed to do/made for" bothers me or claiming to be better on more than a personal preference level.

 

Really, it's all about choices.

 

Yea, I have no idea what she's talking about. Women enjoy making their boyfriends/husbands happy just as much now as they did at any time. Taking care of your man and your family for some women means working and doing certain other things that might be non-traditional.

 

I don't see women ever going,"Yes! My boyfriend/husband is so miserable in our relationship. It's great." XD Uh, no, we all want them to be happy to be with us and if we love them, we all want to take care of them.

 

Just like if they love us, they'll feel the same way.

 

This has nothing to do with traditional values versus non-traditional values or someone's gender. It has to do with whether or not a person loves who they are with.

skydiveaddict Established Member

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and I am willing to bet that if we were not at war with those cultures and you were there just visiting then it wouldn't be an issue.

 

 

I agree . It's hard to explain if you haven't been there though.

skydiveaddict Established Member

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I've never heard of women natives shooting at coalition forces. :confused:

 

Happens all the time K'aycie. Also they and children are the preferred method for delivering suicide attacks (Bombs)

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Happens all the time K'aycie. Also they and children are the preferred method for delivering suicide attacks (Bombs)

 

Oh, eeeesh. :eek:

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