jadedone Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 #1 The girl OP mentions does not sound trashy. She sounds more like the goth/alternative type that thinks that they are better than us so called "sheep" or "conformists". #2 Men sexually desire all kinds of women. The difference is that we can emotionally separate the type we know is just for banging, and the type we want commitment with. The trashy ones are for passing the time between the good ones.
Woggle Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 You mean a man can be an @ssh0le. That is one of way of looking at it but another is that a man can breathe around these types. In many cases they get men and actually like us for who we are instead of trying to change us.
Art_Critic Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 IMO.. men will sometimes go for trashy women because they have a need to have some down and dirty sex and do things that someone not so trashy wouldn't even consider.. There is the whole broken personality aspect too but I'm not talking about that I'm just talking about the pump and dump kinda thing.. churning through women is harder to do also with women that have a higher self esteem...
BookerT Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Trashy = Spreads legs easily. Exactly. Doesn't mean he's looking to marry the girl, maybe he just wants an easy lay.
tami-chan Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 They are great in the sack and they aren't prissy and easily offended. A man can be himself around these types. interesting...but would you marry one?
TaurusTerp Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Goth girl with piercings and revealing clothing? According to my friends, I do tend to gravitate towards the trashy type. Probably because I grew up with preppy girls and very uptight/cerebral girls, and it's refreshing to have a girl thats not overly concerned with some of the idiocy the girls I'm around all the time seem to be (the bachleorette/other trashy tv, irrelevant current events, etc). There's also more passion, I feel. There's no need to go through the song and dance - there's fire from the start. No tests, no "lets wait 3 dates", no silly little rituals to go through. Would I marry one of these girls? Maybe. Less likely, but I wouldn't totally rule it out.
Woggle Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 interesting...but would you marry one? It depends. My wife has many of the positive aspects of dating a woman like this and none of the negatives. Many of the prim and proper women are actually headcases once you get to know them.
Sphere Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 I hardly think what someone wears makes them trashy, if she was the town bicycle and everyone was having a ride then I'd be inclined to agree with you. This thread is just another example of immaturity and insecurity that women have when viewing other women who have what they want. It's a case of female, stock and play.
zengirl Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 (edited) I hardly think what someone wears makes them trashy, if she was the town bicycle and everyone was having a ride then I'd be inclined to agree with you. This thread is just another example of immaturity and insecurity that women have when viewing other women who have what they want. It's a case of female, stock and play. Or people just have different views and values. Personally, I actually find wearing slutty clothes more trashy than having loads of discreet sex. I don't judge people by what they do in their private lives, but I do judge what they do in their public life and how they choose to present themselves to the world. Even though I don't personally understand sleeping around, I don't view sex as a shameful thing. It's a perfectly natural, biological urge. I do view some manners of dress as inappropriate and trashy. Edited August 9, 2010 by zengirl
Sphere Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 Or people just have different views and values. Personally, I actually find wearing slutty clothes more trashy than having loads of discreet sex. I don't judge people by what they do in their private lives, but I do judge what they do in their public life and how they choose to present themselves to the world. Even though I don't personally understand sleeping around, I don't view sex as a shameful thing. It's a perfectly natural, biological urge. I do view some manners of dress as inappropriate and trashy. You're a woman, so you are bound to have a different view. I'm not sure how logical it is to on one hand say "It's acceptable for someone to sleep around and yet on the other hand they cannot wear revealing clothes". A slvt is slvt, she should be keep on being on and should dress like one, so all us decent, self respecting men can avoid them like the Sars virus.
zengirl Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 You're a woman, so you are bound to have a different view. I'm not sure how logical it is to on one hand say "It's acceptable for someone to sleep around and yet on the other hand they cannot wear revealing clothes". A slvt is slvt, she should be keep on being on and should dress like one, so all us decent, self respecting men can avoid them like the Sars virus. My main point is I'm not judging her for being slutty or not being slutty (in terms of promiscuity). That factors in not one whit. I'm judging her for what she wants/chooses to present to the world. Happens to be what I judge people on; everyone has their own criteria. (That doesn't mean mine is "right" but it's certainly within bounds to consider it trashy on that basis without assuming anything about who she sleeps with; others may disagree. . . I'm not saying everyone thinks this way, but it's "within bounds" of many folks in society.)
Woggle Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 I'm actually the opposite. I respect somebody who is open about what they are instead of trying to present a classy facade. I don't buy into this idea that a person can be a horrible person as long as they present the right image to the world.
zengirl Posted August 9, 2010 Posted August 9, 2010 I'm actually the opposite. I respect somebody who is open about what they are instead of trying to present a classy facade. I don't buy into this idea that a person can be a horrible person as long as they present the right image to the world. Nor do I. But I don't find sleeping with whomever you like, discreetly, as a consenting adult, to make one a horrible person. It's not about a facade. As I said, I'm aware it may be a different value system. Just like I won't swear in front of children, but I will in front of my friends. I find going out in the world in trampy clothes brings something to the world I find trashy, but I don't think the people who choose to express their sexuality behind closed doors however they like are trashy for it. Sex is a healthy part of life.
SincereOnlineGuy Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 I saw my friend's new girlfriend the other day. He and I had a fling about a year and a half ago, he's quite the playboy here in town. But I'm not hung up on him, I'm over him, he's my friend and that's the way it is. I was looking at her, not without the slightest bit of jealousy, mind you, but wondering ... She wears 5 inch heels, skirts the size of beer cozies, fishnets, her boobs pushed up to there in a corset, tons of make up (your typical "goth girl) and facial/body piercings, and has a bad attitude. If she knows about me and him in the past, she doesn't show it. I said hello to her, she looks at me like I'm a leaper, hisses like a snake "Hello" and never says a word. She's like this with his other friends (men and women), she's not very nice. At first she can come across as insecure, as I have experienced that girls who typically dress provocatively tend to be insecure. But, she's really not very friendly despite that fact. We are all talking that if and when he gets tired of her (and knowing his M.O., we all know he will get tired of her after a few weeks / months) this will be a horrible scene. But I digress ... I understand that she is dressing the way she is because she is playing up to his fantasies of a lusty, busty babe. I would think that most guys would be turned on by her if they were to see her. But, there is nothing upstairs and she's mean as a snake. My Mom, I would like to think, worked hard on me to make me into JackieO and not a trashy girl. And guys go for trashy girls in general. Why is this the case? Lets be honest, the women with the busiest social dance cards are those who look as if they put out the most. It's as simple as that! They look like they put-out the most because they DO put-out the most. They didn't just hit age 16 (or 14, or 12) and step right into that look without provocation.
Engadget Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 Lets be honest, the women with the busiest social dance cards are those who look as if they put out the most. It's as simple as that! They look like they put-out the most because they DO put-out the most. They didn't just hit age 16 (or 14, or 12) and step right into that look without provocation. Very true. More than the overall look, the eyes of a girl that puts out a lot gives them away. They always have that sultry look, and they make it quite obvious. I personally don't like having sex with them, I'd rather something more meaningful but add alcohol to the mix and it happens sometimes.
Els Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 he's quite the playboy here in town I think this is the reason THIS guy in particular likes her. Trashy guys like trashy girls. Not too difficult a concept?
Sphere Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 I think this is the reason THIS guy in particular likes her. Trashy guys like trashy girls. Not too difficult a concept? Wrong, men and women like sexually engaged people equally. If this wasn't the case then care to explain all of the AFC's who get women and women who have been in a series of disastrous relationships? Trashy has nothing to do with it.
Els Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 How does the fact that some people get involved in disastrous relationships negate my point?
Sphere Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 How does the fact that some people get involved in disastrous relationships negate my point? Well you say only trashy people attract like from like and from what I have seen this isn't true at all. single men who watch hordes of pornography and who have Carmen Electra posters on their walls suggest that you are wrong. Perfectly decent men are going to be attracted to Playboy girls who reside at the Playboy Mansion than say your average plain Jane. And how many decent women have dated trashy men? You read/hear/see it all the time. Average women who say they want a "nice man" and end up dating someone who is anything but nice. Personally this girl sounds like a moron, but I bet you it's not only trashy men she has attracted or will attract.
Els Posted August 10, 2010 Posted August 10, 2010 I did not say the only reason is that like attracts like. I'm saying that in THIS particular case, it sounds like it. Plenty of decent men watch porn and can jack off to Playboy girls, but don't actually wish to be in a relationship with a porn actress. There's a difference. As a woman, I personally enjoy masturbating to such women as well. That's all they are to many of us - jack-off material. Does that mean I want to be in a lesbian relationship with one of them?
SincereOnlineGuy Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 Wrong, men and women like sexually engaged people equally. If this wasn't the case then care to explain all of the AFC's who get women and women who have been in a series of disastrous relationships? Trashy has nothing to do with it. Socially trashy people are like the last two Cheerios in the bowl - they always find one another. Were that not the case, we'd all know someone by now who had been on Jerry Springer at some point. The socially trashy remain in their circles and the rest of us stay in ours. When your female friends are attracted to socially-trashy guys then it is most likely that YOU don't know (or understand) as much as you should about your female friends' pasts'... which created the present. It is one hell of a challenge to escape the clutches of "trashy through no fault of one's own" and that is why most so affected people just succumb rather than get therapy.
djhall Posted August 13, 2010 Posted August 13, 2010 I think a lot of the appeal is that the look conveys a message that the girl is a very sexual person, is in touch with her sexuality, is comfortable with it, is not embarassed by it, and not only feels no compulsion to hide her highly sexual nature but is willing to publicly display and embrace it. In the back of our minds, I think a lot of us guys assume that sex with that kind of girl is going to involve a lot less lights-off, under-the-covers, don't-look-at-me-I'm-hideous, nice-girls-don't-do-that, will-you-still-respect-me-in-the-morning, and a lot more why-am-I-wearing-your-fishnets, not-so-hard-with-the-riding-crop, you-wan't-me-to-stick-it-where, the-cops-got-a-call-someone-was-torturing-a-cat-in-here, I've-never-had-a-RedBull-and-Viargra-before, thank-you-mistress-please-may-I-have-another if you know what I mean.
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