Pyro Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 And when the Buick Lacrosse came, you hit the jackpot. Actually she didn't know what I drove until after we fell for each other. Dude, with your looks and being a sweetheart, you could drive a weed eater and still get a lady. I still say though...if you were standing next to a Ferrari, you'd be even more desirable.... thus proving my point that a luxury automobile isn't as big of factor as people make it out to be.
D-Lish Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 thus proving my point that a luxury automobile isn't as big of factor as people make it out to be. It's totally not. I admit that HAVING wheels is important to me- and apparantly, according to another thread that makes me shallow.
zengirl Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 I don't quite understand why people seem to get personally offended by stereotypes...I mean, if it's true and applies to you, then ok...if it isn't true or doesn't apply for you, then it doesn't I’m not personally offended. I’m slightly "offended" by the inanity of them. It is so easy to disprove the notion of “all blahblahblahs do suchandsuch.” They’re lazy, unintelligent, and lame. The same way, as you later note, using “u” rather than “you.” I think that’s lame, too, and I’ll say so. It doesn’t keep me awake at night or anything. The question is: Why do you care if I care? I mean, you don’t seem to be commenting on the substance of my points. . . It seems to me like you’re saying, “Why would you bother to make them? It’s just a stereotype.” Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what I’m getting. Noting your later post, where you mention you didn't address me -- You may not have directed anything to me by words, but by quoting me, as your entrance to the conversation, you did. But seriously though...of course saying "all" will convey a stronger stance than "most," "a lot," or even "some." Obviously folks who advance stereotypes will want to convey the strongest position with their viewpoints...saying that "all women" think a particular way... Of course, it conveys a stronger stance – but stronger isn’t better, especially when it is obviously inaccurate. It’s a little like the game of bullsh*t (cards). If we’re playing with one deck, and you have a 4, and you insist on saying you have ALL the 4s, you’re going to get called out. Unless you’re playing with really stupid people. (Sorry for the college card game metaphor, but it was what came to mind.) Right. But just because you think some don't, doesn't mean the majority doesn't... But it does mean she can assert it, as can I. Nobody has any real data here, one way or the other, on the numbers of women that do/do not care about such things. This is a purely subjective discussion. But seriously though, couldn't stereotypes also have developed from a series of repeated experiences by a population of people under similar conditions as to create an expectation for future similar experiences? Well. . . Yes. To me, that’s unhealthy. They have bad experiences, and they prepare for the same bad experiences, without learning why they had them. So, we’ve said essentially the same thing in different language.
MrNate Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 If you look back, you'll see that none of my comments were actually directed at you or any of your views towards women and fancy cars...I am generally very careful with my wording and speak in general, vague, and extremely wishy washy terms in order to avoid undue future prosecution... Of course, all v. most...it's just semantics... You just defined religion... But seriously though, couldn't stereotypes also have developed from a series of repeated experiences by a population of people under similar conditions as to create an expectation for future similar experiences? I agree with this. I think you can see why I have some trouble talking to zen sometimes. She takes things I say completely the wrong way.
D-Lish Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 I'm am ugly guy..Had a 1981 Z-28 Camaro about 6 years ago with T-tops....It was white with tan interior.... I used to get chicks all the time swooning over the car and I would get waved at. I loved that car for that reason....It was nice to feel that sort of attention for once. If I was attractive then I probably would of gotten numbers posted onto my doors too. In other words you are confirming that guys that feel inferior on some level buy certain status cars to compensate and attract?
Citizen Erased Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 And when the Buick Lacrosse came, you hit the jackpot. Yeah, because he didn't have some hotted up dip**** car that was really just an addition to the length of his penis.
zengirl Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 The guy quoted me and then claimed he never addressed me! If somebody quotes you, you don't think their posts are directed at you? So if I posted: I agree with this. I think you can see why I have some trouble talking to zen sometimes. She takes things I say completely the wrong way. Some ideas are really stupid and so are some people. Then, I could later say: Wait! I didn't mention you at all, and I wasn't talking about YOU. Really?
Engadget Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 It's totally not. I admit that HAVING wheels is important to me- and apparantly, according to another thread that makes me shallow. You'd only be shallow then if you lived in a city where a car wasn't needed. If I lived in a big city I'd just get rid of my car and save money, ride the subway or something.
D-Lish Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 Originally I bought the car, because I am a car buff and Those are my fav car..also it had a linginfelter big-block in it and would really move fast lol. But yes, It made me feel attractive...it really did, I just didn't feel that way until I got the welcomed attention. I can see that. There is a difference between a genuine car buff and a douche-bag that buys a brand new Hummer to attract women. I think that guys that buy an expensive car to attract chicks, will get what they deserve with regard to the chicks they attract.
MrNate Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 The guy quoted me and then claimed he never addressed me! If somebody quotes you, you don't think their posts are directed at you? So if I posted: Then, I could later say: Wait! I didn't mention you at all, and I wasn't talking about YOU. Really? Eh? What are you talking about? USMC? I'm not sure what assumptions you're making here out of my tiny post, but whatever makes you feel better I suppose.
D-Lish Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 You'd only be shallow then if you lived in a city where a car wasn't needed. If I lived in a big city I'd just get rid of my car and save money, ride the subway or something. Whole 'nother arguement E- we've been there, done that.
MrNate Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 I can see that. There is a difference between a genuine car buff and a douche-bag that buys a brand new Hummer to attract women. I think that guys that buy an expensive car to attract chicks, will get what they deserve with regard to the chicks they attract. Yep. If you got the bling bling, you're only going to get ladies attracted to the bling bling.
USMCHokie Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 I’m not personally offended. I’m slightly "offended" by the inanity of them. It is so easy to disprove the notion of “all blahblahblahs do suchandsuch.” They’re lazy, unintelligent, and lame. The same way, as you later note, using “u” rather than “you.” I think that’s lame, too, and I’ll say so. It doesn’t keep me awake at night or anything. Agreed. The question is: Why do you care if I care? I mean, you don’t seem to be commenting on the substance of my points. . . It seems to me like you’re saying, “Why would you bother to make them? It’s just a stereotype.” Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what I’m getting. It's more the inanity of people's general oversensitivity to silly things than anything else...and it's not that I'm bothered...perhaps tickled... Noting your later post, where you mention you didn't address me -- You may not have directed anything to me by words, but by quoting me, as your entrance to the conversation, you did. Would removing your name from the quote have made a difference? I quoted and responded to the words, not you... Of course, it conveys a stronger stance – but stronger isn’t better, especially when it is obviously inaccurate. It’s a little like the game of bullsh*t (cards). If we’re playing with one deck, and you have a 4, and you insist on saying you have ALL the 4s, you’re going to get called out. Unless you’re playing with really stupid people. (Sorry for the college card game metaphor, but it was what came to mind.) But from whose perspective...? People making assertions may not consider the perspective of the audience...inaccurate to you might not be inaccurate to someone else...see bolded quote directly below... But it does mean she can assert it, as can I. Nobody has any real data here, one way or the other, on the numbers of women that do/do not care about such things. This is a purely subjective discussion. 100% agree, and it applies to 99% of all LS discussions. This forum is simply a dumping ground of people's experiences...and it's what makes it interesting...if people cited studies and statistical analyses for every question that was raised, it'd get pretty boring pretty quick...it's the narratives that reflect how situations can change for different people with different circumstances... Well. . . Yes. To me, that’s unhealthy. They have bad experiences, and they prepare for the same bad experiences, without learning why they had them. So, we’ve said essentially the same thing in different language. It's interesting you used the adjective 'bad' to describe experiences associated with stereotypes...perhaps you are just referring to a subset of stereotypes...but here's a stereotype: chinamen are good at math...I don't see anything bad about that one...
Pyro Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 Oh you would take him even if he raced at the digs:laugh: Also not all of us think hot cars are dong extensions...I for one love performance and the sound og 13:1 compression ponding down on Ross, forged, flat top pistons through 3 inch flow master exhaust, burning 112 octane airplane gas lmao.... That is what I had to burn in my Camaro..it would burn a hole in the piston if I ran pump piss, I mean gas. I admit though..I felt pretty damn cool in that car....all macho and whatever. I never thought about my dick though while driving it..I liked the attention though... read D-Lishs post above. If its a hobby, more power to you, but doing it just to try and get females or because you think it makes you a bad ass does nothing more than make you a super douche.
D-Lish Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 read D-Lishs post above. If its a hobby, more power to you, but doing it just to try and get females or because you think it makes you a bad ass does nothing more than make you a super douche. Yeah! Super-charged douche!
Pyro Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 Yeah! Super-charged douche! :lmao: but remember that since you are female that what you say and what you do are two different things.
Untouchable_Fire Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 It's totally not. I admit that HAVING wheels is important to me- and apparantly, according to another thread that makes me shallow. That doesn't make you shallow... that makes you practical. I have a friend with no car... I get very, very tired of driving him around.
USMCHokie Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 Yeah, because he didn't have some hotted up dip**** car that was really just an addition to the length of his penis. This makes me sad...
zengirl Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 I didn't take it personally, but I did find it silly when you said you weren't responding to me or my views on things. I didn't take it as a critique of me as a person, but it was about my words. Wouldn't matter if the name was there or not. I'm not upset by it (it takes a lot to upset me); just found your later disclaimer a bit disingenuous. You're assuming my oversensitivity. Really, I'm just bored, waiting to move again in a few weeks, all my friends on expensive vacations I decided to forsake this summer because I wasn't sure I'd have a job after repatriation. (I do now, so I wish I'd gone to India a little bit, but C'est la vie.) I just like to pick at things and put my thoughts into the ether. 100% agree, and it applies to 99% of all LS discussions. This forum is simply a dumping ground of people's experiences...and it's what makes it interesting...if people cited studies and statistical analyses for every question that was raised, it'd get pretty boring pretty quick...it's the narratives that reflect how situations can change for different people with different circumstances...True, but my point about saying all or most, is that it is more instantly dismissed and easier to disprove. It's actually less effective and powerful than saying "some." Had the OP created a post that said "The effects of a nice car on some silly women in this video" and made it about the ladies in the video, there'd be a lot less posts here and certainly none about stereotypes. I would've been more likely to write about those women than stereotypes, or not write anything at all. That was the point with the card game analogy.
USMCHokie Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 why is that? Because it's possible that I have a hotted up dip**** car that adds length to my laughable penis...
Pyro Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 Because it's possible that I have a hotted up dip**** car that adds length to my laughable penis... just don't try to use it as a selling point when you talk to a girl and you'll be fine. Have confidence in yourself and not your toys.
USMCHokie Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 I didn't take it personally, but I did find it silly when you said you weren't responding to me or my views on things. I didn't take it as a critique of me as a person, but it was about my words. Wouldn't matter if the name was there or not. I'm not upset by it (it takes a lot to upset me); just found your later disclaimer a bit disingenuous. You're assuming my oversensitivity. Really, I'm just bored, waiting to move again in a few weeks, all my friends on expensive vacations I decided to forsake this summer because I wasn't sure I'd have a job after repatriation. (I do now, so I wish I'd gone to India a little bit, but C'est la vie.) I just like to pick at things and put my thoughts into the ether. True, but my point about saying all or most, is that it is more instantly dismissed and easier to disprove. It's actually less effective and powerful than saying "some." Had the OP created a post that said "The effects of a nice car on some silly women in this video" and made it about the ladies in the video, there'd be a lot less posts here and certainly none about stereotypes. I would've been more likely to write about those women than stereotypes, or not write anything at all. That was the point with the card game analogy. Well, I will admit that once I start down a path in a discussion or argument, I end up sticking with it and trying to "win" with it, even if I realize the other side is right...hell it's my job... But I get what you're saying...I just got caught up in the inane details and went with it... Good game.
D-Lish Posted July 26, 2010 Posted July 26, 2010 That doesn't make you shallow... that makes you practical. I have a friend with no car... I get very, very tired of driving him around. That has been my issue with dating guys without a car! I do live in a city where we can use public transit to get around, but I still ended up driving all the time. I got tired of it too!
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