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What I disagree with is the Jungian-pair partners inferred for each type. AFAIK, all the introverts get paired with extroverts. Really, they think that's a good idea??? I personally think a solid E with a solid I will be setting themselves up for some serious incompatibility down the road, especially when choosing activities and social events to attend.

 

Or do they actually mean something else by 'partner'?

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I'm an INTP.

 

According to the translator, that would fit into Zone 5. I never really looked at Enneagrams before - my psychologist had a book sitting on his desk about it. Pretty interesting!

I'm not personally as convinced about Enneagrams but have kept an open mind on it.

 

What I disagree with is the Jungian-pair partners inferred for each type. AFAIK, all the introverts get paired with extroverts. Really, they think that's a good idea??? I personally think a solid E with a solid I will be setting themselves up for some serious incompatibility down the road, especially when choosing activities and social events to attend.

 

Or do they actually mean something else by 'partner'?

This isn't what the article states so I'm not certain where you got that from.
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I can't say I'd survive with a full out E. I need my nights in with my book and bubble bath and doggie snuggles to survive.

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Wow.

I'm in exactly the right profession, and I'm likened to Martin Luther King and Eleanor Roosevelt. (they're both "my" types!)

I can handle that!

 

My partner hasn't done it, but I might let him have a go.....If he can be bothered...!

 

 

Snap!

 

I don't usually believe in these things but it's quite uncanny how accurate that is - like somebody's been inside my head! :eek:

 

I'll definitely get my man to do it too and I'll report back later. Very interesting.

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I got INFJ

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I'm an INFJ, too! :)

 

What I disagree with is the Jungian-pair partners inferred for each type. AFAIK, all the introverts get paired with extroverts. Really, they think that's a good idea??? I personally think a solid E with a solid I will be setting themselves up for some serious incompatibility down the road, especially when choosing activities and social events to attend.

 

Or do they actually mean something else by 'partner'?

 

My H is a solid extrovert, and I'm a moderate introvert. It works really well for us! I appreciate having him to do all the little chores (household and parenting) that involve networking and small talk (neighbors, teachers, landlords, renters, etc). He likes that stuff, and I hate it! I've got more of a mind for reading through paperwork, running numbers, making decisions, etc--so there is balance and sharing of strengths.

 

We are similar on some key issues, but very different in other ways. We complement each other rather than mirroring each other :)

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Apparently I'm an ENFP, very low on the E.

 

Sounds about right.

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I'm an ENFJ. I find that interesting as I would not think of myself as an extrovert.

 

I do find the part about sacrificing feelings for others interesting as my counselor repeatedly told me a lot of my problems with my marriage had to do with me not speaking up enough.

 

The parts more toward the bottom of the description are parts I cannot relate to at all. I go out of my way not to be harsh with others even in times of conflict and feel horribly guilty if I do have a moment where I say something I wish I had not said.

 

I also enjoy abstract and philosophical thinking.

 

 

Interesting though!

 

"ENFJ

 

One of the two 'extraverted feeling types' (the other is the ESFJ). The ENFJ comprises 4 percent of the population, and is the seventh least populated group.

 

Sociable, popular, active in groups, capable of leading, but in a tactful way. Exhibiting real concern for others, they are responsible and responsive to the needs of others.

 

The 'extraverted feeling types' - EFs or E(S/N)FJs - are, like the enneagram Twos that they are prototypical of, empathic types. They above all else want 'harmonious human contact' (p. 92, Myers). They want to please others and be of service to them. (p. 94) Myers tells an anecdote about one ENFJ, who reputedly said, 'So-and-so asked me what I thought of type, and I didn't know what to tell her, because I didn't know how she felt about it' (p. 95, Myers). Von Franz says of extraverted feeling types,

 

Because [they] have such a tremendous capacity for objectively feeling the other person's situation, they are usually the ones who most genuinely sacrifice themselves for others'. (p. 55, Von Franz)

 

It is not surprising, then, when Quenk observes that they are particularly susceptible to developing co-dependency relationships with others (p. 137, Quenk). Their weakness, in this regard, is associated with their inferior thinking function, which deprives them of a stable 'point of view' or 'intellectual position'. They are, so to speak, 'intellectually groundless', and so they seek their reference frame in others.

 

The inferior introverted thinking of the E(S/N)FJs manifests in their dislike for abstract or philosophical thinking. Thinking is neglected and thus underdeveloped (p. 131, Quenk) rendering it 'negative and coarse'. The E(S/N)FJs Inferior thinking is exhibited in hypercriticalness and judgments 'which they never allow really to come out'. In those infrequent introverted moments when he allows himself to think, the E(S/N)FJs thoughts are self-critical and disparaging:

 

At the bottom he allows himself to think that he is nobody, that his life is worthless, and that everybody else mighty develop and get on the path to individuation but he is hopeless. These thoughts dwell in the back of his mind. (p. 57, Von Franz)

Quenk describes the inferior thinking of the E(S/N)FJs as manifesting in excessive criticism, convoluted logic, and compulsive search for exacting truth:

 

A hostile, negative atmosphere can bring out sharp, biting, and even vicious comments from extraverted feeling types. They seem to dig in their heels, intractable to either logical or feeling arguments. As one described, 'I become cranky, judgmental, and angry. I mistrust myself and others' (p.131)

Inferior thinking can involve complicated and improbable scenario-building, according to idiosyncratic personal 'logics', rigidity and over-organization in the external world. Or feeling types may choose to get out of the difficulty of having to think by '...simply selling their souls to some already established system'. (p. 58, Von Franz). When they do think, Von Franz tells us, it tends to be in platitudes and banal phrases."

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This is really interesting, TBF.

 

ENFPs have what some call a "silly switch." They can be intellectual, serious, all business for a while, but whenever they get the chance, they flip that switch and become CAPTAIN WILDCHILD, the scourge of the swimming pool, ticklers par excellence. Som etimes they may even appear intoxicated when the "switch" is flipped.

 

I feel like this describes me perfectly. It's put nicely here, but I refer to it as my "crazy".

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Turns out we're both INFJ! :)

 

I like this man more than any person I have ever met and he feels the same about me. There has to be some connection here, surely?

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