Shakz Posted July 1, 2010 Posted July 1, 2010 Agree! While I don't LIKE MOST people of either sex, (I find most people boring, annoying and small minded) I do NEED my friends and my wonderful husband. I can't imagine a more depressing life than one devoid of friends or lovers. I would not want to live on a desert island with a bunch of women and no men. I'd go nuts around all the high drama! You are so f**cking weird. Were you drunk when you posted this? Read it over and tell me if this is what you wanted to say. I'm not kidding.
jenifer1972 Posted July 2, 2010 Posted July 2, 2010 You are so f**cking weird. Were you drunk when you posted this? Read it over and tell me if this is what you wanted to say. I'm not kidding. What are you referring to? That it is weird that I wouldn't want to live in a world with no men? That I wouldn't want to live in a world without friends? Or that I find most people annoying? Like people who call me f..... weird who don't know the first thing about me???
Jersey Shortie Posted July 2, 2010 Posted July 2, 2010 The bitterness and arguing comes from both genders feeling disrespected. It doesn't how much you proclaim you don't need anybody but you want someone, or how much you proclaim you do need someone, people don't respect other people. They only think about relationships in terms of *I* an what *they* need first. Not what they bring to the other person. That's where the bitterness comes from.
BS76 Posted July 2, 2010 Posted July 2, 2010 I see allot of angry guys here beause they think its still the 50's where women didnt have careers of their own and needed men well we dont anymore You have found out we are more like men then u guys thought. most of us dont want sappy roamance we dont want marriage or kids we just want to find the hottest guys to ravage us in a no strings attatched relationship So now the average joe blow guy who isnt great looking and isnt very charming is having a hard time getting women these days beause "provider" is the only thing he has going for him and its not needed anymore You do realize YOU sound like the bitter one, right?
Dexter Morgan Posted July 2, 2010 Posted July 2, 2010 I see allot of angry guys here beause they think its still the 50's where women didnt have careers of their own and needed men well we dont anymore You have found out we are more like men then u guys thought. most of us dont want sappy roamance we dont want marriage or kids we just want to find the hottest guys to ravage us in a no strings attatched relationship So now the average joe blow guy who isnt great looking and isnt very charming is having a hard time getting women these days beause "provider" is the only thing he has going for him and its not needed anymore looks like nobody agrees with you....especially your fellow women here. thats gotta suck
Disillusioned Posted July 2, 2010 Posted July 2, 2010 Actually, Matt McMullen (the guy who runs the company that makes Realdolls) is one man who is very grateful that women today don't need men anymore. That's because over 12,000 men have bought his Realdolls, but hardly any women have bought any of his male dolls. And it's also why cloned women who are programmed to love men are a good idea which needs to be legalized.
gamma1 Posted July 2, 2010 Posted July 2, 2010 You do realize YOU sound like the bitter one, right? She doesn't sound bitter to me. She has an entitlement complex though.
Woggle Posted July 2, 2010 Posted July 2, 2010 looks like nobody agrees with you....especially your fellow women here. thats gotta suck That sort of surprised me.
Shakz Posted July 2, 2010 Posted July 2, 2010 What are you referring to? That it is weird that I wouldn't want to live in a world with no men? That I wouldn't want to live in a world without friends? Or that I find most people annoying? Like people who call me f..... weird who don't know the first thing about me??? Apparently sarcasm is lost on you.
marsle85 Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 She doesn't sound bitter to me. She has an entitlement complex though. Hollaaaaa! Haha, just kidding. Darwinism will eventually spare the OP.
jenifer1972 Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 Apparently sarcasm is lost on you. Well, I can't see you or hear your tone of voice, so how would I necessarily be able to figure that out?
Gero Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 Men today are bitter because too many women have terrible bitchy me-first attitudes like the OP. It has nothing to do with whether they need a man or not.
Woggle Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 These entitled American women also think they are much better catches than they actually are. They greatly overestimate their appeal. Just because they can get a bunch of doormats to cater to them does not mean they are the cream of the crop.
Jersey Shortie Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 Men today are bitter because they blame women for their own personal inadequacies. They have not acted like leaders or with pride and women do not treat them like leaders or with pride because most men today do not work to practice those qualities. They do not look within themselves and ask themselves how they have treated women, or how they are lacking where they could become a better man. They expect women to accept them for just breathing, but have really accomplished very little in the ways of attracting and being the kind of men a woman is really going to respect. Today men play xbox, download porn, act like their 12. They do not take pride in responsiblity, respect, loyatly, and acting like a grown-up has become a dirty word. They wonder why women don't respect them. They don't respect themselves. Men want to be leaders without the hard work. They want women to look up to them and think they are great but not practice the hard work that would make that happen. They want the short cut. They do not want to learn about themselves and they do not want to realy learn about women. THey just want women to accept them, smile and be pleasing and easy. Any bitterness a man feels towards women, would be better reflected on asking himself where he is lacking. But this is something that is too difficult for a man to admit. And that is why my post will strike a sensitive core with men. Because they know I am right about this.
Cracker Jack Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 (edited) It's a bit unfair to be summing up men like that, though. I'll admit that there are plenty of guys who are bitter towards women, and some of them usually have issues with understanding their flaws or whatever--but not all of us are bitter towards women, or believe women should just accept whatever is brought to her attention. I want to be at my best for a woman. This isn't striking a nerve, but most of that stuff goes both ways between genders. Plenty of women feel as though men owe them for giving them their time simply because they're a woman. Edited July 3, 2010 by Cracker Jack
gypsy_nicky Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 'men today are bitter because they realize that women need them to hold onto the traditional male standard'
Jersey Shortie Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 It's a bit unfair to be summing up men like that, though. I'll admit that there are plenty of guys who are bitter towards women, and some of them usually have issues with understanding their flaws or whatever--but not all of us are bitter towards women, or believe women should just accept whatever is brought to her attention. I want to be at my best for a woman. This isn't striking a nerve, but most of that stuff goes both ways between genders. Plenty of women feel as though men owe them for giving them their time simply because they're a woman. I would agree. But Cracker Jack, the guys on here aren't saying they want to be the best for their woman. Your mentality and theirs is a little different.
jenifer1972 Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 PEOPLE, in general, not just men OR women, are rude, inconsiderate, selfish these days, much more so I believe than in my parents' day. Neither sex has the corner on this... This I have discussed w/elderly patients, and they really see it. For every bitter man with a story of being used, there is a woman with a similar one. And round it goes. Like the Israelis and the Palestinians. Who fired the first shot? Impossible to know, it started sooo long ago.... I think it is better to be someone who actually starts saying something they appreciate about the other sex. This gulf is already so poisoned with "oil" gushing into it, shouldn't some of us try to do some "clean up".? I like men, I shudder to think of a world devoid of them....(few women know how to run heavy machinery and actually build bridges, fix cars....and nooo sex. Sadness. Haha) I like women also, but in a different way. Haha. Imagine a world devoid of them too. I won't tout our good points. Maybe some men have SOMETHING positive to say? Anyone? Ferris?
MrNate Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 PEOPLE, in general, not just men OR women, are rude, inconsiderate, selfish these days, much more so I believe than in my parents' day. Neither sex has the corner on this... This I have discussed w/elderly patients, and they really see it. For every bitter man with a story of being used, there is a woman with a similar one. And round it goes. Like the Israelis and the Palestinians. Who fired the first shot? Impossible to know, it started sooo long ago.... I think it is better to be someone who actually starts saying something they appreciate about the other sex. This gulf is already so poisoned with "oil" gushing into it, shouldn't some of us try to do some "clean up".? I like men, I shudder to think of a world devoid of them....(few women know how to run heavy machinery and actually build bridges, fix cars....and nooo sex. Sadness. Haha) I like women also, but in a different way. Haha. Imagine a world devoid of them too. I won't tout our good points. Maybe some men have SOMETHING positive to say? Anyone? Ferris? Now this is a good way to spin things around! Sure, I'll say something positive. I love women, I thank God everyday for this wonderful species. Soft voice, soft skin, long hair, etc. The perfect embodiment of sexual/emotional attraction. And most of all, irreplaceable. A world without them would be miserable, and very lame. I think even the most bitter guys out there understand the great things women bring to this world. So, here's to you, ladies.
allina Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 Somehow, the subject came up about my Preuvian girlfriend. And she freaked out and said "oh, so you are one of those guys". I played innocent, he heh e. She said "So, how much did you pay for her? I guess us AMerican woman are too materialistic for you right, we are stuck up and have attitudes right". I'm having a very hard time believing that a random stranger at a business event said those words to you.
threebyfate Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 Men today are bitter because they blame women for their own personal inadequacies. They have not acted like leaders or with pride and women do not treat them like leaders or with pride because most men today do not work to practice those qualities. They do not look within themselves and ask themselves how they have treated women, or how they are lacking where they could become a better man. They expect women to accept them for just breathing, but have really accomplished very little in the ways of attracting and being the kind of men a woman is really going to respect. Today men play xbox, download porn, act like their 12. They do not take pride in responsiblity, respect, loyatly, and acting like a grown-up has become a dirty word. They wonder why women don't respect them. They don't respect themselves. Men want to be leaders without the hard work. They want women to look up to them and think they are great but not practice the hard work that would make that happen. They want the short cut. They do not want to learn about themselves and they do not want to realy learn about women. THey just want women to accept them, smile and be pleasing and easy. Any bitterness a man feels towards women, would be better reflected on asking himself where he is lacking. But this is something that is too difficult for a man to admit. And that is why my post will strike a sensitive core with men. Because they know I am right about this.I agree wholeheartedly with this for some men but I would also reverse the genders and find it applicable to some women.
Trimmer Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 I agree wholeheartedly with this for some men but I would also reverse the genders and find it applicable to some women. I agree... My hypothesis is that the people - of either gender - who are most bitter and arrogant along gender lines are those who have an inability to see that both genders have an abundance of faults that should keep them humble, both genders have an abundance of characteristics to be proud of, and of course, both genders have individuals who are rich in faults and low in character. No big surprise there. It's just that some people, for various reasons, get entrenched in an unbalanced view, and decide it's "us against them", that "we" are normal, and "they" are all screwed up. I believe if you really look at these types of people (who are convinced of their perspective, and that they're just "telling the truth" and that people like me are just sadly naive...) you'll find that, individually, the origins of their opinions (whether traumas, etc.) are usually more interesting than the pretty much plain-vanilla us-against-them stance.
threebyfate Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 I agree... My hypothesis is that the people - of either gender - who are most bitter and arrogant along gender lines are those who have an inability to see that both genders have an abundance of faults that should keep them humble, both genders have an abundance of characteristics to be proud of, and of course, both genders have individuals who are rich in faults and low in character. No big surprise there. It's just that some people, for various reasons, get entrenched in an unbalanced view, and decide it's "us against them", that "we" are normal, and "they" are all screwed up. I believe if you really look at these types of people (who are convinced of their perspective, and that they're just "telling the truth" and that people like me are just sadly naive...) you'll find that, individually, the origins of their opinions (whether traumas, etc.) are usually more interesting than the pretty much plain-vanilla us-against-them stance.Would you say "fixate on external negatives and that will be your world"? In fixating on gender negatives, there's no room for self-examination.
SteveC80 Posted July 3, 2010 Posted July 3, 2010 Men today are bitter because they blame women for their own personal inadequacies. They have not acted like leaders or with pride and women do not treat them like leaders or with pride because most men today do not work to practice those qualities. They do not look within themselves and ask themselves how they have treated women, or how they are lacking where they could become a better man. They expect women to accept them for just breathing, but have really accomplished very little in the ways of attracting and being the kind of men a woman is really going to respect. Today men play xbox, download porn, act like their 12. They do not take pride in responsiblity, respect, loyatly, and acting like a grown-up has become a dirty word. They wonder why women don't respect them. They don't respect themselves. Men want to be leaders without the hard work. They want women to look up to them and think they are great but not practice the hard work that would make that happen. They want the short cut. They do not want to learn about themselves and they do not want to realy learn about women. THey just want women to accept them, smile and be pleasing and easy. Any bitterness a man feels towards women, would be better reflected on asking himself where he is lacking. But this is something that is too difficult for a man to admit. And that is why my post will strike a sensitive core with men. Because they know I am right about this. lol at this bitter drivel.. so all men are the same? hillarious To judge all men beause of a few on a message board is insane most people here have baggage if i judge all women by this site id think all women are whackjobs and i know its not the case. Bottom line is theres tons of happily married women who think the world of their MAN i know that doesnt fit into your porn is ruining the world agenda and your us against them mentality but you are in the minority that sees most men today as below average
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