New Jersey 44 Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 The women that play games do so BECAUSE THEY WANT TO. I've dated and had relationships with women across the spectrum for over 20 years. The good news is less than half are into these dating games. Those that tried these stupid games on me have ADMITTED it to me with these "I'll look desperate if I don't play games", "A guy wants played games on me so now I do it", or my favorite "I played games because I was scared", or they make some oter excuse for their game playing. These women are the most difficult to date and if you break their 2 or 3 day rule or show a little too much affection, expect the games to get intense or expect them to end things with some strange excuse. Over half the woman never or rarely play these games. Date them. Woman who overanalyze every little thing are often the nastiest and worst game players out there. I don't care how beautiful or hot the woman. If she must play games she may as well as be bone jarring ugly because these games give men migraines.
Bangle Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 There is to many men and women who play games. Playstation games are nice...sometime and board games are nice too when family come for Christmas but games when wanting to date or have a relationship is not good. If a woman play games with me, I cancel everything with her and find someone who has enough respect for me not to play games. Only immature boys and girls play games, mature men and women are honest about their intentions and do not resort to PUA guides and ridiculously, unnecessary rules.
Author New Jersey 44 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Posted June 25, 2010 (edited) There is to many men and women who play games. Playstation games are nice...sometime and board games are nice too when family come for Christmas but games when wanting to date or have a relationship is not good. If a woman play games with me, I cancel everything with her and find someone who has enough respect for me not to play games. Only immature boys and girls play games, mature men and women are honest about their intentions and do not resort to PUA guides and ridiculously, unnecessary rules. You get it and I do the same. I learned in my 20s to avoid these women. A lot of women love games, but it's still less than half. I can spot them quick and go for the others. Edited June 25, 2010 by New Jersey 44
Bangle Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 It's people who play games that hurt people and cause others to feel unnecessary bitterness and resentment towards the opposite sex. If everyone was honest about their intentions from the get-go, then forums like these wouldn't need to exist. Boy meets girl, both like each other, boy asks her out, girl smiles and hands over phone number, boy calls girl, girl answers, both arrange a date, both go on date. However too many times, people will play games through this phase or will be dishonest about what they want, people lead people on and you get the picture. It's all unnecessary and I have zero-tolerance to it.
guy.lepage Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 Successful people can usually achieve good self control, and that includes feelings and emotions. That's what "playing" is all about. Dishonesty is a different concept. One can play games, play by the rules and be honest. One can also play games in a selfish way and break unwritten rules. Playing games is not the problem. It's how you play it and how considerate you are toward others.
Author New Jersey 44 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Posted June 25, 2010 Successful people can usually achieve good self control, and that includes feelings and emotions. That's what "playing" is all about. Dishonesty is a different concept. One can play games, play by the rules and be honest. One can also play games in a selfish way and break unwritten rules. Playing games is not the problem. It's how you play it and how considerate you are toward others. There's a very grey area between game playing and dishonestly. Too much unnecessary work. I'll take the non game player, thank you.
guy.lepage Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 There's a very grey area between game playing and dishonestly. Too much unnecessary work. I'll take the non game player, thank you. We all want to look our best when we meet someone we like. We all want people to like who we are. That's just the nature of things. We all choose who we are going to express ourselves and reveal our personalities, and whether you like it or not, it's all a controlled act. Dishonesty is when you know you can potentially hurt someone and still do it. Life is made of grey areas. Better to embrace them and appreciate grey areas for what they are rather than trying to make things black and white (which more often than not ends up in deception).
Author New Jersey 44 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Posted June 25, 2010 We all want to look our best when we meet someone we like. We all want people to like who we are. That's just the nature of things. We all choose who we are going to express ourselves and reveal our personalities, and whether you like it or not, it's all a controlled act. Dishonesty is when you know you can potentially hurt someone and still do it. Life is made of grey areas. Better to embrace them and appreciate grey areas for what they are rather than trying to make things black and white (which more often than not ends up in deception). You speak just like a game playing woman. Guys play games too. I don't like it one bit when people play these juvenile games. It ruins relationships daily.
hopesndreams Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 The women that play games do so BECAUSE THEY WANT TO. I've dated and had relationships with women across the spectrum for over 20 years. The good news is less than half are into these dating games. Those that tried these stupid games on me have ADMITTED it to me with these "I'll look desperate if I don't play games", "A guy wants played games on me so now I do it", or my favorite "I played games because I was scared", or they make some oter excuse for their game playing. These women are the most difficult to date and if you break their 2 or 3 day rule or show a little too much affection, expect the games to get intense or expect them to end things with some strange excuse. Over half the woman never or rarely play these games. Date them. Woman who overanalyze every little thing are often the nastiest and worst game players out there. I don't care how beautiful or hot the woman. If she must play games she may as well as be bone jarring ugly because these games give men migraines. How old are you? Not being critical, but interested to know if that is also the mindset of 40 somethings.
Author New Jersey 44 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Posted June 25, 2010 How old are you? Not being critical, but interested to know if that is also the mindset of 40 somethings. 44, and this has been my mindset for a long time. What's your take on this?
guy.lepage Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 You speak just like a game playing woman. Guys play games too. I don't like it one bit when people play these juvenile games. It ruins relationships daily. No need for insults here. I think we may not have the same definition of "playing games". Seduction is a game. How else can it be? Those frustrated are those who don't understand the rules.
Author New Jersey 44 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Posted June 25, 2010 No need for insults here. I think we may not have the same definition of "playing games". Seduction is a game. How else can it be? Those frustrated are those who don't understand the rules. Building a long lasting healthy relationship is not a game. Seduction in the context of one night stands, could possibly be but I don't want or need that. The ending was always bad when I dated women who thought the way you do. Games lead to trouble and nasty breakups. Honesty leads to long term relationships.
hopesndreams Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 How old are you? Not being critical, but interested to know if that is also the mindset of 40 somethings. Well, I'm 45 and have been kinda "dating" here and there and MEN play these games. Is there a man out there that doesn't? Where the hay is he? You say half the women don't play these games so why are you bothering with those that do instead of pursuing those that don't? I wish to find a man that doesn't play these types of games. As for it being seduction? Gimme a break. It turns me right off!
guy.lepage Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 Building a long lasting healthy relationship is not a game. Seduction in the context of one night stands, could possibly be but I don't want or need that. The ending was always bad when I dated women who thought the way you do. Games lead to trouble and nasty breakups. Honesty leads to long term relationships. Let me ask you something. You finally find the courage to ask the lady of your dreams out on a date. To your delight, she accepts. Now you have 48 hours to prepare for the date. Will you not make sure you think of the right restaurant, wear the right outfit and carry the right attitude? Or will be brutally honest and say you'd rather eat mac n' cheese in your boxers, slouching in your kitchen chair?
hopesndreams Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 Let me ask you something. You finally find the courage to ask the lady of your dreams out on a date. To your delight, she accepts. Now you have 48 hours to prepare for the date. Will you not make sure you think of the right restaurant, wear the right outfit and carry the right attitude? Or will be brutally honest and say you'd rather eat mac n' cheese in your boxers, slouching in your kitchen chair? That is freakin' hilarious!!! Got any ketchup?
Author New Jersey 44 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Posted June 25, 2010 Well, I'm 45 and have been kinda "dating" here and there and MEN play these games. Is there a man out there that doesn't? Where the hay is he? You say half the women don't play these games so why are you bothering with those that do instead of pursuing those that don't? I wish to find a man that doesn't play these types of games. As for it being seduction? Gimme a break. It turns me right off! My thought is men do it just as much as women. The men that don't are everywhere and I'd say it's at least half. You might need to change your venue or technique if you're finding the game players. The male game player types are far more likely to make moves than the rest so being assertive can work. I look for the quieter women who don't make waves and have had some long solid relationships. Sadly, incompatibiity issues didn't work in my favor.
hopesndreams Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 You are correct sir. I am looking in all the wrong places. I look for the quieter women who don't make waves and have had some long solid relationships. But, If I'm quiet, how can I be assertive?
Author New Jersey 44 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Posted June 25, 2010 Let me ask you something. You finally find the courage to ask the lady of your dreams out on a date. To your delight, she accepts. Now you have 48 hours to prepare for the date. Will you not make sure you think of the right restaurant, wear the right outfit and carry the right attitude? Or will be brutally honest and say you'd rather eat mac n' cheese in your boxers, slouching in your kitchen chair? I do something in between. Should I fret over it and stress over it? Not a chance. If she isn't happy with what we do, then we probably weren't compatible to begin with. Mac and chesse in my boxers slouching in a kitchen chair is yuck to me anyway.
hopesndreams Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 I do something in between. Should I fret over it and stress over it? Not a chance. If she isn't happy with what we do, then we probably weren't compatible to begin with. Mac and chesse in my boxers slouching in a kitchen chair is yuck to me anyway. I like your attitude.
Author New Jersey 44 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Posted June 25, 2010 You are correct sir. I am looking in all the wrong places. I look for the quieter women who don't make waves and have had some long solid relationships. But, If I'm quiet, how can I be assertive? You may have to jump out of your comfort zone. I have to do it too sometimes. No one said it was simple.
hopesndreams Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 You may have to jump out of your comfort zone. I have to do it too sometimes. No one said it was simple. Good advice and you are 100% correct.
Author New Jersey 44 Posted June 25, 2010 Author Posted June 25, 2010 I like your attitude. Back at ya.
guy.lepage Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 I do something in between. Should I fret over it and stress over it? Not a chance. If she isn't happy with what we do, then we probably weren't compatible to begin with. Mac and chesse in my boxers slouching in a kitchen chair is yuck to me anyway. The point is, you'd still make an effort, wouldn't you? That's only natural and nothing to be ashamed of. At different degrees, we all want to look, smell and be our best for our date. Now you come across as a sincere, down to earth type of person. Well guess what, that's your game. Perhaps if you could share some of experiences and what you define as game playing, we could continue this conversation using common terms.
Bangle Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 Those frustrated are those who don't understand the rules. My definition of game playing, is accepting to go on a date with someone and not answering his/her calls, or texts. My definition of game playing is lying about your intentions, my definition of game playing is being dishonest or following along with ridiculous rules like no contact for three days etc. Stupidity...
hopesndreams Posted June 25, 2010 Posted June 25, 2010 The thing that gets me is the person trying very hard, and noticeably, that they are not the person you will be getting if you continue to date and get to know who they really are. There is so much shallowness. Everything is all for show! It's like a magic trick. How long do you have to "date" these people before finding out what they are really like?
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