Jilly Bean Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 She's 6 and doesn't know what's inappropriate. So if no one tells her - especially her parents-, she has no way of knowing not to do that kinda stuff. You're missing the point. It's not about someone disciplining her and telling her she's being inappropriate. It's the sheer fact that she even KNOWS these things to begin with. THAT is the problem, Pretty. No 6-year old should know the things she does. Of course, her parents turning a total blind eye is very telling as well... Honestly, how many more red flags would need to wave? You should call DFS, Pretty. If her parents aren't watching her, then someone else needs to.
TaraMaiden Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 The behaviour is inappropriate. my question is - how the hell did such a graphic scenario get implanted in her brain to the point that she knew what to say and do, and acted it out (or tried to)? Did her parents not show any embarrassment or shock at all? if that was my daughter I wouldn't know what to say or where to put myself. And honestly? A heart-to-heart quiet talk with her would follow. Pretty damned quick.
Author prettybaby Posted June 27, 2010 Author Posted June 27, 2010 You're missing the point. It's not about someone disciplining her and telling her she's being inappropriate. It's the sheer fact that she even KNOWS these things to begin with. THAT is the problem, Pretty. No 6-year old should know the things she does. Of course, her parents turning a total blind eye is very telling as well... Honestly, how many more red flags would need to wave? You should call DFS, Pretty. If her parents aren't watching her, then someone else needs to. uhm what's DFS?
Jilly Bean Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 uhm what's DFS? Department of Family Services. Child Protective Services - whatever it's called where you are.
Art_Critic Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 It's the sheer fact that she even KNOWS these things to begin with. THAT is the problem, Pretty. No 6-year old should know the things she does. You should call DFS, Pretty. If her parents aren't watching her, then someone else needs to. I agree.. If you don't call DFS and report them you could call DFS and quiz them about the child's behavior but honestly it seems to me that the child has something going on her life that isn't good..
threebyfate Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 I wouldn't over-react. The next time she does something like this within a family environment, in a loud, clear, calm voice, ask her where she learned about these types of things. This sends a clear message to the adults.
Art_Critic Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 By the way.. You Tube didn't teach her to drop her panties and take money for it at school.. Do you even realize how eff'd up that is ?
Author prettybaby Posted June 27, 2010 Author Posted June 27, 2010 Did her parents not show any embarrassment or shock at all? No they didn't care at all. My boyfriend and I were like It's not hard to figure out where she's seen this. I mean, between the TV and their unmonitored YouTube/internet access, they got some solid sources right there. Which the kids even talked and laughed about. So it's not really a mystery.
Ophelia Rue Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 She definitely has a crush on him. When I was little, I had a crush on my teenage cousin. I remember feeling extraordinarily jealous of his girlfriends. When I got older, I came to realize I just admired him a lot. She'll grow out of it. Unfortunately, she is his family, and you're going to have to get used to her until she gets a little older.
Author prettybaby Posted June 27, 2010 Author Posted June 27, 2010 By the way.. You Tube didn't teach her to drop her panties and take money for it at school.. Do you even realize how eff'd up that is ? Of course I do. What do you think? We both told her she shouldn't do that, and to never do that again. My boyfriend and I discussed it after they left, we still couldn't believe it. Her brother sells all kinds of crap to his classmates and brags about how much money he makes at school. So her doing something for money at school isn't that far fetched, as messed as it is. I'm not trying to make up excuses or anything for her behavior. I'm just saying that she's exposed to things that clearly influence her actions. Her perception of them remains uncorrected though.
threebyfate Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Of course I do. What do you think? We both told her she shouldn't do that, and to never do that again. My boyfriend and I discussed it after they left, we still couldn't believe it. Her brother sells all kinds of crap to his classmates and brags about how much money he makes at school. So her doing something for money at school isn't that far fetched, as messed as it is. I'm not trying to make up excuses or anything for her behavior. I'm just saying that she's exposed to things that clearly influence her actions. Her perception of them remains uncorrected though.Now you're digging up excuses. Why does everything relate back to sexuality with this little girl? That's where you're making too big a leap.
Jilly Bean Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Of course I do. What do you think? We both told her she shouldn't do that, and to never do that again. My boyfriend and I discussed it after they left, we still couldn't believe it. Her brother sells all kinds of crap to his classmates and brags about how much money he makes at school. So her doing something for money at school isn't that far fetched, as messed as it is. I'm not trying to make up excuses or anything for her behavior. I'm just saying that she's exposed to things that clearly influence her actions. Her perception of them remains uncorrected though. Huh? So, her brother sells marbles and baseball cards at CD's at school, and that's the explanation as to why she is exposing her vagina for money at SIX FRIGGIN YEARS OLD??? I am SHOCKED beyond belief that you just rationalized this as you did. Honestly, with your attitude, and that of her parents, no wonder no one is paying attention and protecting this child. Horrible.
Hot Carl Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 That's not normal little girl behavior. The internet doesn't teach those things. I can't think where on You Tube you can find videos that encourage little girls to expose themselves. She does it because somewhere she learned that it was a good way to gain acceptance from someone. Probably dad, as messed up as that sounds.
Author prettybaby Posted June 27, 2010 Author Posted June 27, 2010 Now you're digging up excuses. Why does everything relate back to sexuality with this little girl? That's where you're making too big a leap. I see what you mean and I don't know why she's so focussed on it. I'm just telling you the facts and how easily they could all be linked, since the kids talk and laugh about it so openly.
threebyfate Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 I see what you mean and I don't know why she's so focussed on it. I'm just telling you the facts and how easily they could all be linked, since the kids talk and laugh about it so openly.I've been around a lot of six year olds both male and female. None would have related sex as a commodity to get money. This is an adult concept so she had to have gotten it from somewhere.
Author prettybaby Posted June 27, 2010 Author Posted June 27, 2010 Huh? So, her brother sells marbles and baseball cards at CD's at school, and that's the explanation as to why she is exposing her vagina for money at SIX FRIGGIN YEARS OLD??? I am SHOCKED beyond belief that you just rationalized this as you did. Honestly, with your attitude, and that of her parents, no wonder no one is paying attention and protecting this child. Horrible. Well if it makes you feel any better, I will dicuss your theory with my boyfriend and we'll talk about what to do next. I'm pretty sure everyone on this board will agree that this type of accusation isn't exactly a light matter.
threebyfate Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 If you know a child psychologist or therapist, discuss the listed incidents with him/her. She tried to take her clothes off several times and insisted for my boyfriend to take pictures of her nipples (no idea where she gets it from!). Sexuality. At some point she took her panties off and lifted her dress. Sexuality. And when the little girl said she shows her bits at school all the time, and kids pay her 1 euro every time she does, Sexuality. The parents showed zero reaction, so he ended up just grabbing her and handed her to her dad lol She started screaming, so her dad finally told her to stop it and to behave for once. Might not be anything but could also be a reaction considering the above relationships to sexuality. When she left, she tried to kiss my boyfriend on the lips 3 times, Might be sexuality, might not be. Might just be a little girl doing the disney fantasy thing.
Jilly Bean Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Well if it makes you feel any better, I will dicuss your theory with my boyfriend and we'll talk about what to do next. I'm pretty sure everyone on this board will agree that this type of accusation isn't exactly a light matter. Wait - are you doing this for ME? lol Pretty - I would think your own sense of right and wrong would prevail, and you wouldn't need an internet stranger (or 5) to force you into this. And no, it's not an easy accusation, and no one in accusing anyone of anything specific. This little girl is acting out some very unhealthy sexual behaviors, and she's learning them somewhere. Could be her parents, a babysitter, relative, teacher - who knows. Let me ask you - if they had a dog who was not being fed, or tied up outside and never walked, would you ignore that, too? We have to act as advocates for those who can't, Pretty. Her parents, if not the culprits, clearly don't give a crap what's going on with her. Someone needs to make sure this little girl is safe.
Author prettybaby Posted June 27, 2010 Author Posted June 27, 2010 Ok, I just got back from walking my dog real quick, and I remembered this old college friend whom I haven't spoken to in a few years. I think she ended up majoring in child psychology. I'll give her a call tomorrow and chat with her about this. So you guys can stop talking to me like I'm the most horrible person in the world
Jilly Bean Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 you guys can stop talking to me like I'm the most horrible person in the world I'm sorry if it came off like that, Pretty. But, it sounds like you're the only one who can save this child. I have to think now the whole karmic reason for your thread on her was for this to come out, and for you to save her. Truly.
threebyfate Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Ok, I just got back from walking my dog real quick, and I remembered this old college friend whom I haven't spoken to in a few years. I think she ended up majoring in child psychology. I'll give her a call tomorrow and chat with her about this. So you guys can stop talking to me like I'm the most horrible person in the world I don't think of you as a horrible person. Just someone who's a bit naive about how a six year old little girl normally behaves.
Art_Critic Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Pretty - I would think your own sense of right and wrong would prevail, and you wouldn't need an internet stranger (or 5) to force you into this. And no, it's not an easy accusation, and no one in accusing anyone of anything specific. This little girl is acting out some very unhealthy sexual behaviors, and she's learning them somewhere. Could be her parents, a babysitter, relative, teacher - who knows. This is true.. that was why I mentioned phoning DFS and quizzing them about her behavior before she goes down the road and what TBF mentioned about talking with a counselor would also be a great idea..
threebyfate Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Pb, when you're discussing this with your friend, the best way is to send him/her your entire post about this little girl's behaviour in a single night.
Art_Critic Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 Ok, I just got back from walking my dog real quick, and I remembered this old college friend whom I haven't spoken to in a few years. I think she ended up majoring in child psychology. I'll give her a call tomorrow and chat with her about this. So you guys can stop talking to me like I'm the most horrible person in the world Great idea.. and I don't think you are a bad person PB.. in fact you and your BF seem to be the only one in your family concerned..
threebyfate Posted June 27, 2010 Posted June 27, 2010 The other side of this is her parent's lack of interest or concern in her overtly sexual behaviour. This means that this type of behaviour isn't abnormal for her. As a mother, the thought of a little child saying these things would shock me to the core and ensure a discussion to find out the source. If the child won't divulge, a discussion with a child psychologist would ensue. These thoughts didn't just appear in her mind out of nowhere.
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