sruben Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 Does anyone here know of cell phone spy software that will report on the contents of TXT messages sent and received and will report on GPS location on demand or periodically that will work with a Verizon phone in the US (CDMA)? I know Verizon has Family Locator for the GPS, but it makes a huge hairy announcement when it's being located (Verizon believes strongly in their customers' privacy...to cheat, you see) and it shows up in the installed apps. My W recently installed an email app onto her phone. She showed me the msg she sent her dad for Father's Day. Thank you for any suggestions you might have on this. I'm mostly interested in whether or not anyone here has been able to get such a thing, or if it's vaporware.
Author sruben Posted June 21, 2010 Author Posted June 21, 2010 Does anyone here know of cell phone spy software that will report on the contents of TXT messages sent and received and will report on GPS location on demand or periodically that will work with a Verizon phone in the US (CDMA)? I know Verizon has Family Locator for the GPS, but it makes a huge hairy announcement when it's being located (Verizon believes strongly in their customers' privacy...to cheat, you see) and it shows up in the installed apps. My W recently installed an email app onto her phone. She showed me the msg she sent her dad for Father's Day. Thank you for any suggestions you might have on this. I'm mostly interested in whether or not anyone here has been able to get such a thing, or if it's vaporware. Does the deafening roar of silence mean that there IS no such software for non-smartphones? This phone has no SIM chip, so can not read deleted TXT's, etc, and I really don't want to have to get Family Locator, although I might and tell her about it, that it's "in case of emergency" since she'll be alone in a strange city. Think she'll buy it? Yeah, I kind of doubt it, too. I'd much rather be surreptitious given the circumstances. Maybe they'll give her a BB for work, like in her last job. I could have installed Flexispy (although illegal, since I didn't own the phone), maybe I would have discovered more, esp. when I thought the EA might be rekindling last Sep when she bought that lingerie she never wore for me?
TaraMaiden Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 Do we perchance have mild trust issues, at all....?
imagine Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 Sruben, Contact the readers at marriage builders.com for details. They have used methods on Verizon and explain the legal implications. Unfortunately, I do not live in your country to bother remembering. You may want to visit Spying 101 while you are there.
Author sruben Posted June 21, 2010 Author Posted June 21, 2010 Do we perchance have mild trust issues, at all....? To say the least...
wuggle Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 Sruben, Contact the readers at marriage builders.com for details. They have used methods on Verizon and explain the legal implications. Unfortunately, I do not live in your country to bother remembering. You may want to visit Spying 101 while you are there. Or you could be a bit more mature about it and try speaking to her ?
2sunny Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 usually - IF your gut is telling you something is wrong - it is. i think you already know and don't want to admit it - either that - or a combination of not wanting to do anything about it either.
TaraMaiden Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 Do we perchance have mild trust issues, at all....? To say the least... Well for goodness' sake, is there not a more direct, subtle and cheaper way of approaching this than being devious, underhand, sneaky and deceitful yourself? One of the great pillars of a relationship is Trust. The other two are Communication and Respect. You have none of any of the above for her, and i sounds as if you completely believe she's deficient in at least one of them. Do you want to work this hard? And if you do, don't honesty and integrity play a part? At least on your side....?
Author sruben Posted June 21, 2010 Author Posted June 21, 2010 usually - IF your gut is telling you something is wrong - it is. i think you already know and don't want to admit it - either that - or a combination of not wanting to do anything about it either. No, I absolutely do want to do something about it, but I don't have the hard evidence I need. Now she's excited about the possibility of getting an out of town job where she'd be on travel 75%-80% (at least) and now she indirectly lets me know she's set up an email account that she can access from her cell phone? Almost like rubbing my face in it.
Author sruben Posted June 21, 2010 Author Posted June 21, 2010 Well for goodness' sake, is there not a more direct, subtle and cheaper way of approaching this than being devious, underhand, sneaky and deceitful yourself? One of the great pillars of a relationship is Trust. The other two are Communication and Respect. You have none of any of the above for her, and i sounds as if you completely believe she's deficient in at least one of them. Do you want to work this hard? And if you do, don't honesty and integrity play a part? At least on your side....? BTDT, deny deny deny. Sure, I'd LOVE it if we had an open and honest relationship, but right now I'm not getting that from her. Nor communication, either. We have dinner out, I try several times to engage, we end up spending most of the time staring at the table or elsewhere...
Author sruben Posted June 21, 2010 Author Posted June 21, 2010 Or you could be a bit more mature about it and try speaking to her ? Tried that. Stonewalling and gaslighting are all I got for the effort...
TaraMaiden Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 Ah, good. I have it now, It's simple. Don't you see it? You dump her. Sorted.
Author sruben Posted June 21, 2010 Author Posted June 21, 2010 Ah, good. I have it now, It's simple. Don't you see it? You dump her. Sorted. Simple on paper. We have a DD7 and two DSDs (14/16) to consider, including their relationship with each other.
2sunny Posted June 21, 2010 Posted June 21, 2010 No, I absolutely do want to do something about it, but I don't have the hard evidence I need. Now she's excited about the possibility of getting an out of town job where she'd be on travel 75%-80% (at least) and now she indirectly lets me know she's set up an email account that she can access from her cell phone? Almost like rubbing my face in it. and these are just SOME of the reasons you KNOW something is wrong. what are you going to DO about it? you really don't need hard evidence... you already have your answer. you just need to change the locks and tell her to pick up her stuff by the front door.
Fight4Me Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 Oh, and for what it's worth, I think some people need to see the absolute hard evidence before they can actually do what they know is already necessary in their minds. What is hard evidence for one, isn't enough for someone else, especially if there's even a sliver of hope they could be wrong. I'm not advocating one way or another, in fact there are more good reasons not to employ this kind of software, but if he's set on doing it, he may as well not fall for the scams in the process.
carhill Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 In the long run, it's probably cheaper and more efficacious to hire a PI. They'll have a grasp of the legal implications and can work within the law to provide the information/confirmations required/requested. This presumes the OP lives in an at-fault jurisdiction and W's infidelity could impact his position positively. Going through a divorce, the reality of it, trust me when I tell you all that 'drama' of discoveries is not what you think it's going to be, in the end. You may think so, but not really. Hope it works out
U2RockZz Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 i think i have answered this one while back....let me paste it(in one of your thread) Now that's a good one....Flexispy PRO-X (BlackBerry) DOES NOT work on CDMA networks (it only works on GSM networks). Please make sure your target is NOT on a CDMA network before purchasing Flexispy PRO-X. future versions of Flexispy PRO-X will support CDMA network(check it out) now if you want to use it on CDMA networks like sprint,verizon....you can use MOBISTEALTH spy pro-x version**(check the spelling)...i haven't tested it so i could not say it how it works.... **----- not all phones are compatible with mobistealth i guess....some of androids and HTC all for more info....http://www.squidoo.com/spyphone_flexispy
Author sruben Posted June 22, 2010 Author Posted June 22, 2010 i think i have answered this one while back....let me paste it(in one of your thread) Now that's a good one....Flexispy PRO-X (BlackBerry) DOES NOT work on CDMA networks (it only works on GSM networks). Please make sure your target is NOT on a CDMA network before purchasing Flexispy PRO-X. future versions of Flexispy PRO-X will support CDMA network(check it out) now if you want to use it on CDMA networks like sprint,verizon....you can use MOBISTEALTH spy pro-x version**(check the spelling)...i haven't tested it so i could not say it how it works.... **----- not all phones are compatible with mobistealth i guess....some of androids and HTC all for more info....http://www.squidoo.com/spyphone_flexispy You did, indeed, and thanks -- however, I'm still without a solution for my W's non-smartphone (LG Chocolate Touch). It's not running Symbian/Windows Mobile/whatever. Looks like I'm out of luck with this one... Too bad she didn't like the Droid I originally got her (she said it was too heavy, but I think it was the salesgirl telling us that we could keep tabs on each other's whereabouts through GPS...W seemed to have a reaction to that, mostly just a "micro-flash" expression). She had me exchange it within like 3 days of getting it...
Author sruben Posted June 22, 2010 Author Posted June 22, 2010 In the long run, it's probably cheaper and more efficacious to hire a PI. They'll have a grasp of the legal implications and can work within the law to provide the information/confirmations required/requested. This presumes the OP lives in an at-fault jurisdiction and W's infidelity could impact his position positively. Going through a divorce, the reality of it, trust me when I tell you all that 'drama' of discoveries is not what you think it's going to be, in the end. You may think so, but not really. Hope it works out I'm in a no-fault state, and last year PI said they couldn't do much, wanted to know why I even wanted to try! These guys were all ex-cops, so they certainly knew the legal implications of various actions. Seems "invasion of privacy" was getting in the way of most things I wanted them to do (other than follow around, video and report) Things are weird in this jurisdiction in other ways, too. Security guards can't carry weapons or interfere with a crime in progress...they're just supposed to take notes. What happens if the perps don't want any witnesses? Guards are expendable, I guess. :-( I'd just like to influence the custody issue in my favor if we D...
Author sruben Posted June 22, 2010 Author Posted June 22, 2010 Oh, and for what it's worth, I think some people need to see the absolute hard evidence before they can actually do what they know is already necessary in their minds. What is hard evidence for one, isn't enough for someone else, especially if there's even a sliver of hope they could be wrong. I'm not advocating one way or another, in fact there are more good reasons not to employ this kind of software, but if he's set on doing it, he may as well not fall for the scams in the process. Well, when someone says "Nothing is going on!" and you find a TXT message which says otherwise, that's prima facie evidence and good enough for me. Walking in on them, of course, is irrefutable, but most folks don't find out that way unless the WS MEANT for them to find out, and that's usually when they're done with the M anyway...
Owl Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 I'm in a no-fault state, and last year PI said they couldn't do much, wanted to know why I even wanted to try! These guys were all ex-cops, so they certainly knew the legal implications of various actions. Seems "invasion of privacy" was getting in the way of most things I wanted them to do (other than follow around, video and report) Things are weird in this jurisdiction in other ways, too. Security guards can't carry weapons or interfere with a crime in progress...they're just supposed to take notes. What happens if the perps don't want any witnesses? Guards are expendable, I guess. :-( I'd just like to influence the custody issue in my favor if we D... If you're in a no-fault state, even proof of an A may well have no impact on anything, to include custody, unless you can PROVE that she's been shirking her parenting to have the affair. Not likely from what you've described. Is knowing that she's having an A or not going to impact your choice to D? From what I've seen, I'd ask if knowing the truth would provoke a decision of any kind? What will getting 'proof' change?
imagine Posted June 22, 2010 Posted June 22, 2010 What will getting 'proof' change? Proof means that you can expose to family and friends!
Author sruben Posted June 22, 2010 Author Posted June 22, 2010 If you're in a no-fault state, even proof of an A may well have no impact on anything, to include custody, unless you can PROVE that she's been shirking her parenting to have the affair. Not likely from what you've described. Is knowing that she's having an A or not going to impact your choice to D? From what I've seen, I'd ask if knowing the truth would provoke a decision of any kind? What will getting 'proof' change? It would decrease her wiggle room around the truth and therefore hopefully increase my chances of getting to the truth. Once we have that, we can decide together whether or not it's worth fixing the M or D'g. Right now, I don't think she's inclined to D (I could be wrong -- maybe why she wants to work out of town), she seems to enjoy having a "stable home life" (such as it is, and it is mostly stable). I've read that many cheaters like to have the home fires kept lit while pursuing a little "strange" on the side (whether LTA or ONS). If I caught her in an A right now, yes, probably next stop would be D lawyer. If she's not in one now, though, I think it's still important to deal with last summer even if she thinks she's gotten away with it or swept it under the rug. Something interesting she told me last night (and she's probably told me once before, a long time ago). When she was dating xH#1 for 3 years before getting M'd, one summer he went to HI on vacation (got free tickets from a relative), she chose not to go with him because they weren't yet married and it was one cabin. So she went on a short-term mission trip with her team and another team and met a guy from that other team. She at first described it as a romance, then later recanted that part, but said that there was some attraction there, but when he tried to kiss her, she told him (then!) that she had a BF back home, "which pretty much ended that." Not sure how far things got, she didn't elaborate. My point: She seems to like summer romances. Not saying she's having one now, but I suspect last summer...that yes, she did. If so, I need to know how far it went and why she did it, before we can begin to rebuild trust. BTW, she doesn't trust me, either. I'm a man and "all men cheat...eventually, and then it's over" is a frequent refrain of hers. Yet another reason I think she basicallly felt she had to beat me to the punch (DSD16 suggested her mom has this personality trait).
Author sruben Posted June 22, 2010 Author Posted June 22, 2010 Proof means that you can expose to family and friends! Abso-fraggin-lutely!
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