kdark Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 Nope, but I'm going to think she's a bit promiscuous and ultimately not respect her. I would think that as a guy you would have more respect for a girl who enjoys sex than a girl who doesn't.
Engadget Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 So then why would you continue sleeping with someone you didn't respect? Because it's just sex, and I like sex. I would never date her though. The thrill of the chase is very important. A girl who opens her legs off the bat is no fun to pursue. I like class and style, and I'd much rather that in a girl I want to date than just opening her legs.
anne1707 Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 Don't believe me? Why can't most women gain orgasm through sexual penile intercourse alone? Guaranteed the problem isn't all physical. As a guess, most of it is emotional. Can you provide some evidence for this please. I thought the last theory you put forward was based on anatomy (although your poll was inconclusive) http://www.loveshack.org/forums/t224274/ Now you are saying it is emotional. Are you trying to suggest that those many women who cannot have a vaginal orgasm (with no clitoral stimulation) are in a relationship that is less emotionally fulfilling than those who can?
CLC2008 Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 Because it's just sex, and I like sex. I would never date her though. The thrill of the chase is very important. A girl who opens her legs off the bat is no fun to pursue. I like class and style, and I'd much rather that in a girl I want to date than just opening her legs. So for you, the sport of it (i.e. thrill of the chase) is what's most important? Fair enough.
Engadget Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 So for you, the sport of it (i.e. thrill of the chase) is what's most important? Fair enough. That's part of it, and sex on the first date is like being handed everything easy and not actually working for it. Sure it would be nice, but it's more fulfilling to work towards it. Building the tension and connection prior makes sex much better than without it, I just can't believe I'm the only person here who sees it like this.
jamal Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 It's not the same, at all. right and right agin, realy men have early sex, nice guys dont get squat Wonder why these nice guys are still virgins at 30 and constantly complain about being friend zoned.
Engadget Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 Wonder why these nice guys are still virgins at 30 and constantly complain about being friend zoned. If you're talking about me... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
kdark Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 That's part of it, and sex on the first date is like being handed everything easy and not actually working for it. Sure it would be nice, but it's more fulfilling to work towards it. Building the tension and connection prior makes sex much better than without it, I just can't believe I'm the only person here who sees it like this. If you look at sex as the end reward, then yes I would agree with your assertion that having to work for it would make it more enjoyable. But I hope you don't think that as soon you lay a girl you have her hooked.
CLC2008 Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 OK E - We have formulated enough responses here to give you a general idea. I suggest you read previous threads of some of the members to gain better insight to the type of people they date/go after, their views, values and beliefs, and then see where yours fit into.
kdark Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 the nice guys ask women for advice, real men just have sex on first meeting, im 25 and ive lost count nice guys know there count 0 Good for you. I lost count when I was 21. My peepee is bigger.
Engadget Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 If you look at sex as the end reward, then yes I would agree with your assertion that having to work for it would make it more enjoyable. But I hope you don't think that as soon you lay a girl you have her hooked. When did I ever say that? I'm better with women than most people, don't really need any advice on that front. I'm just looking for more than easy sex, if I want that I'll get it and not bother trying to work at it. When a girl gives it up on day one, that's all she's going to be to me. The girl that wants to wait gains my respect.
Engadget Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 whadever, at least we arent nice guys You're someone who spends his days trolling a relationship forum. You're not getting laid, at all.
kdark Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 When did I ever say that? I'm better with women than most people, don't really need any advice on that front. I'm just looking for more than easy sex, if I want that I'll get it and not bother trying to work at it. When a girl gives it up on day one, that's all she's going to be to me. The girl that wants to wait gains my respect. But by losing respect for a girl who gives it up on the first date is a huge double standard if you are still allowed to go out and get an easy lay. I don't understand the thought behind it. Would it bother you if you found out that a girl you have been dating had a bunch of one night stands in her past, but waited a while with you? Or would that be a good thing?
Engadget Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 But by losing respect for a girl who gives it up on the first date is a huge double standard if you are still allowed to go out and get an easy lay. I don't understand the thought behind it. Would it bother you if you found out that a girl you have been dating had a bunch of one night stands in her past, but waited a while with you? Or would that be a good thing? It's not a double standard because I don't do one night stands, nor try to get laid on the first date, because I choose not to. Yeah, if she waited with me that would be very good in that scenario. Being able to control your urges is a good thing.
kdark Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 and you have thousnds of posts, im getin laid very soon in minuts and it will be the ultamite lay with my skills Dude we get it. Your dick is huge. Shut up already.
kdark Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 It's not a double standard because I don't do one night stands, nor try to get laid on the first date, because I choose not to. Yeah, if she waited with me that would be very good in that scenario. Being able to control your urges is a good thing. Except for that one girl who begged you to do it on the first date...
kdark Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 I guess I just see sex in a much more casual way than you, Engadget. One of my biggest fears is having a relationship eventually turn into a sexless relationship. To me a girl who enjoys sex enough not to be burdened by the expectation that women be prim and proper and hold out a little while before having sex is a very desireable trait. Sex is something I enjoy a whole lot, and I just can't ever lose respect for a woman who wants to do the same thing that I would want to do on a first date. To each his own...
Engadget Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 Except for that one girl who begged you to do it on the first date... And all she is is a **** buddy now, proving my point exactly. I gave in eventually, but I didn't push it. She did.
jamal Posted June 19, 2010 Posted June 19, 2010 And all she is is a **** buddy now, proving my point exactly. I gave in eventually, but I didn't push it. She did. Double standards. If you truly believed in your own dogma you would have taken a rain check on that offer for sex. Anyway, what guarantee do you have that the girl who will make you wait (unless she is a virgin) is not the skankiest of the skankiest? Maybe she has had drunken gang bangs at some frat party. Maybe you will be her 50th sexual partner.
Engadget Posted June 20, 2010 Posted June 20, 2010 Double standards. If you truly believed in your own dogma you would have taken a rain check on that offer for sex. Anyway, what guarantee do you have that the girl who will make you wait (unless she is a virgin) is not the skankiest of the skankiest? Maybe she has had drunken gang bangs at some frat party. Maybe you will be her 50th sexual partner. You're missing the point, forget it.
kimflute26 Posted June 20, 2010 Posted June 20, 2010 You wouldn't see a girl anymore if she wont sleep with you by the 3rd date? Number of past partners has nothing to do with how long someone chooses to wait. Some people actually want to get to know a guy before they let one stick his dick inside her. Just sayin. I normally go for sex on the first date. Failure that then second date. No third date if I do not get between her legs. Chances are that she is not a virgin and if she was able to give it to some past jerk boyfriend why can she not give it to me when I have not treated her bad. BTW, I am not a judgmental person so I will not judge a woman based on her having slept with me on the first date. Rather, I take the time to get to know her and I find that sex break down the tension and false impression. People are more willing to relax and show you their true self after sex. As a matter of fact, my wife of 8 years was a first date lay. She was no skunk but a very loyal and moral woman. In fact, all my long term relationships have been sex on the first date. Even though I broke up with some of these girls (sex wasnt part of the decision) I still have tremendous respect for them and even chat with them on FB. I find the friendship very fulfilling since I do not harbour any sexual fantasies about them (been there done that). The same can not be said about a friendship with a girl I have not screwed. Lets face it. Whats the point of a 25-45 year old woman pretending to be some Amish girl when she probably has been humped by a number of guys. This will not help her regain her virginity. For me, the older the woman the more it annoys me when she starts acting all prudish.
Maggotface Posted June 20, 2010 Posted June 20, 2010 I say if you're both comfortable and ready it doesnt matter what date it's on. But the longer you wait the better, you might sleep with him on the second or third date and realize later that he's a huge jerk and regret doing anything with him. Also, you can get to know each other, people you just meet won't really be too willing to tell you if they have an STD because you pretty much just met they dont want to scare you off and if you have sex soon into the relationship they might not even see a point in telling you if it's not exclussive (hey, some people are like this).
threebyfate Posted June 20, 2010 Posted June 20, 2010 I say if you're both comfortable and ready it doesnt matter what date it's on. But the longer you wait the better, you might sleep with him on the second or third date and realize later that he's a huge jerk and regret doing anything with him.That's about it. Why bond with someone who's a dud? Also, you can get to know each other, people you just meet won't really be too willing to tell you if they have an STD because you pretty much just met they dont want to scare you off and if you have sex soon into the relationship they might not even see a point in telling you if it's not exclussive (hey, some people are like this).Another good point. There are a lot of men who are relationship lazy. Make sure your own needs are being met, as a woman.
Author EricaH329 Posted June 20, 2010 Author Posted June 20, 2010 This thread is awesome. Kdark -- I completely agree with everything you've said!! I'm a pretty sexual person, and to be honest, I actually prefer having sex before I make any type of commitment. If I don't have a sexual connection with that person, then the emotional connection will only go so far. A+ for helping me make my point while I was away Engadget -- Throughout your posts in this thread, I noticed you kept mentioning a 'first date' scenario. Do you not think that by the third date you've gotten to know a person much better than you would if you had only gone on a date with them one time? Also, I noticed you were referring to the girl you are currently 'seeing'. I know the both of you had sex on the first date, but didn't you say that you went into that knowing you didn't want anything serious? Do you think that might have swayed your decision, regardless of whether she slept with you on the first date/third date/ etc? CLC -- You're awesome
jamal Posted June 20, 2010 Posted June 20, 2010 You wouldn't see a girl anymore if she wont sleep with you by the 3rd date? Number of past partners has nothing to do with how long someone chooses to wait. Some people actually want to get to know a guy before they let one stick his dick inside her. Just sayin. I use this strategy because it works for me. I have nurtured wonderful long term relationships that began as one night stands. Maybe this method might not work for some people. Before using this strategy I used to get friendzoned. Besides I lost a high school sweetheart due to my gentlemanly manners. On the getting to know someone part. There is no way you can really know someone even after 10 dates. In terms of knowing someone there is barely a marginal difference between 2 days and 2 months. I am not saying you should be reckless. I am usually a good judge of character and I rely on my intuition to tell me whether or not this would be good girl worth getting to know.
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